1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange
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Hi everyone,
I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from the workspace it self. I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? -- And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to Smalltalk like me :) Best regards, Stanislav Paskalev _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Stanislav
What image and vm version are you using? Max On 21.07.2010, at 21:47, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the > Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript > show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown > in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from > the workspace it self. > > I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? > > -- > And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really > polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to > Smalltalk like me :) > > Best regards, > Stanislav Paskalev > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Max,
I'm using Pharo.exe version 4.0.2 from 12th April 2010, together with the said 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 PharoDev image and PharoV10.sources. I've just noticed that the Inspect shortcut doesn't seem to work. I can execute do it with ctrl+d, print it with ctrl+p and explore using ctrl+shift+i, however plain ctrl+i for inspect is not working. When I select it from the context menu, it's fine. Stanislav Paskalev On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM, Max Leske <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Stanislav > > What image and vm version are you using? > > Max > > > On 21.07.2010, at 21:47, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the >> Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript >> show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown >> in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from >> the workspace it self. >> >> I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? >> >> -- >> And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really >> polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to >> Smalltalk like me :) >> >> Best regards, >> Stanislav Paskalev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange
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Stan
First welcome. I noticed that too and I think that this is left over of a trace for trying to catch a bug related to shortcut. We should spot it and remove it. Stef On Jul 21, 2010, at 9:47 PM, Stanislav Paskalev wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the > Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript > show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown > in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from > the workspace it self. > > I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over ? > > -- > And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really > polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to > Smalltalk like me :) > > Best regards, > Stanislav Paskalev > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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You shouldn't use the rc and beta builds. There's a lot of developement going on and you'll likely experience weird behaviour. My advice: youse the PBE-image with the 4.0.2 vm. You can get the image from here: Pharo By Example image If you still experience problems, don't hesitate to ask again. We don't know everything :) Max On 21.07.2010, at 21:59, Stanislav Paskalev wrote:
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Re: 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange
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On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:11 10PM, Max Leske wrote:
Going through the PBE as an intro to smalltalk, you'd probably appreciate the calmer waters of using the PBE-image as Max recommended though. Cheers, Henry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange
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On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Stanislav Paskalev <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi everyone, Welcome! Exactly. I also noticed this and it is for sure a left over some debugging. What I am not sure if there is an open bug report for this. Can someone check and open if it isn't ? -- _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange
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2010/7/21 Henrik Johansen <[hidden email]>
Yes, mostly becuase we are talking about a RELEASE CANDIDATE, which may not be the same as using a beta or unstable Pharo 1.2 for example.
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Thanks for the correction. I tried to say pretty much that but I guess it came out a bit wrong :p
Max On 21.07.2010, at 23:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
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I understand, I will stick to the PBE image for the book.
Thanks everyone! Stanislav Paskalev 2010/7/22 Max Leske <[hidden email]>: > Thanks for the correction. I tried to say pretty much that but I guess it > came out a bit wrong :p > Max > > On 21.07.2010, at 23:23, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > > > 2010/7/21 Henrik Johansen <[hidden email]> >> >> On Jul 21, 2010, at 10:11 10PM, Max Leske wrote: >> >> You shouldn't use the rc and beta builds. >> >> There's a lot of developement going on and you'll likely experience weird >> behaviour. >> My advice: youse the PBE-image with the 4.0.2 vm. >> You can get the image from here: Pharo By Example image >> >> Well, shouldn't is a strong word, we do appreciate reports of issues in RC >> builds. :) > > Yes, mostly becuase we are talking about a RELEASE CANDIDATE, which may not > be the same as using a beta or unstable Pharo 1.2 for example. > >> >> Going through the PBE as an intro to smalltalk, you'd probably appreciate >> the calmer waters of using the PBE-image as Max recommended though. > > > yes > > >> >> Cheers, >> Henry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange
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In reply to this post by Mariano Martinez Peck
I opened this one
(http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2610) June 30, seems to me that it describes the same behaviour cheers, 2010/7/21 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: > > > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:47 PM, Stanislav Paskalev <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, >> >> I'm going through the first chapter of Pharo by Example and the >> Transcript morph behaves somewhat strange. When I type "Transcript >> show: " into a workspace, every time I press space 2 numbers are shown >> in the Transcript, they look like character indexes from the text from >> the workspace it self. >> >> I believe this is non intentional, perhaps some debugging output left over >> ? >> > > Welcome! > > Exactly. I also noticed this and it is for sure a left over some debugging. > What I am not sure if there is an open bug report for this. > > Can someone check and open if it isn't ? > >> >> -- >> And let me congratulate everyone involved in Pharo, it looks really >> polished and makes a very good first impression for newcommers to >> Smalltalk like me :) >> >> Best regards, >> Stanislav Paskalev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Patrick Barroca _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: 1.1-11409-rc4dev10.07.2 - Transcript behaving strange
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Thanks. I recategorized it and we should fix it.
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