4.1 is newer than 4.1.1, getting trunk updates, posting to the inbox (was Re: [squeak-dev] Files in trunk?!)

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4.1 is newer than 4.1.1, getting trunk updates, posting to the inbox (was Re: [squeak-dev] Files in trunk?!)

Hannes Hirzel
On 5/21/10, Göran Krampe <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi guys!
>
> Ok, perhaps I am just DAFT but what is this:
>
> http://ftp.squeak.org/trunk/
> Squeak4.1.1.zip          15-Apr-2010 05:15   13M
> Squeak4.1.zip            18-Apr-2010 00:22   13M
>
> ...and firing up those images show that 4.1 is 9957 and 4.1.1 is... 9938?

4.1 with 9957 is the newer one.


> IMHO any normal person would think that 4.1.1 is *newer* than 4.1, right?

Yes, but in this case it does not apply.....
See http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-April/148944.html
Randal was complaining that Andreas put out a 4.1.1 without first
doing a 4.1. So Andreas put out the 4.1 AFTER the 4.1.1

> Perhaps this has been discussed at length - but this is just confusing.

Yes, but the cleanup work has not been done yet....

> Also, I can't for my life figure out how to "track trunk". Where do we
> explain how to get onto trunk? So that I can just hit "Load updates" and
> be on the edge

1)
Evaluate in a workspace
 MCMcmUpdater defaultUpdateURL: 'http://source.squeak.org/trunk'.

Alternative:
Choose the preferences browser, click on category 'Monticello' and
change the update URL to http://source.squeak.org/trunk


2) Then choose the mouse menu 'Update Squeak'

3) After the updates have been done choose 'Extras' / 'Rebuild menus'.




> Feeling like a damn n00b here.

Sorry for that and thank you for bringing up this issue. There are
probably quite a number of other people on this list who are in the
same situation but were too shy to ask ...

Another important not so obvious thing is that you can open a
Monticello Browser (menu 'Tools') and then open the repository
'source.squeak.org/inbox'. It contains proposals of things to be added
to the trunk.

The current Configurations package development and the ConfigBrowser
are taking place there.

If you change a package in your image and you think the change is
worth to be taken into the trunk you may post it to the inbox by
simply selecting that package in the Monticello browser and by
choosing source.squeak.org/inbox at the right hand side and pressing
the button 'save'. Then you are prompted for a comment and the
contribution appears in the inbox and on the list.

HTH

--Hannes

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Göran Krampe
On 05/21/2010 05:08 PM, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
> On 5/21/10, Göran Krampe<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>> Also, I can't for my life figure out how to "track trunk". Where do we
>> explain how to get onto trunk? So that I can just hit "Load updates" and
>> be on the edge
[SNIP of explanation]

I already got things working, and Igor did the same "trip" in parallell
but in this case the answers are not really the issue - the issue is
*getting these answers onto www.squeak.org*. And AFAICT that has not
been done.

regards, Göran

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Levente Uzonyi-2
On Sun, 23 May 2010, Göran Krampe wrote:

> On 05/21/2010 05:08 PM, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
>> On 5/21/10, Göran Krampe<[hidden email]>  wrote:
>>> Also, I can't for my life figure out how to "track trunk". Where do we
>>> explain how to get onto trunk? So that I can just hit "Load updates" and
>>> be on the edge
> [SNIP of explanation]
>
> I already got things working, and Igor did the same "trip" in parallell but
> in this case the answers are not really the issue - the issue is *getting
> these answers onto www.squeak.org*. And AFAICT that has not been done.
It seems to be hard to get the website updated. My previous mail
(http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-April/149064.html 
) about the obsolete links on the download page (http://squeak.org/Download/ )
was mostly ignored.


Levente

>
> regards, Göran
>
>