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Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung
- an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What do others think? One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a job to spit out such a thing. frank |
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On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung +1 |
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On 12/29/12, Colin Putney <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Frank Shearar > <[hidden email]>wrote: > >> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung >> - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their >> luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? >> >> My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the >> low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What >> do others think > > > +1 > |
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Frank Shearar wrote:
> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung > - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their > luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? > > My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the > low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What > do others think? > I think it's time to release it, even though SqueakSSL doesn't like the network changes. Levente > One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer > for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a > job to spit out such a thing. > > frank > > |
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On 29 December 2012 18:49, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Frank Shearar wrote: > >> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung >> - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their >> luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? >> >> My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the >> low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What >> do others think? >> > > I think it's time to release it, even though SqueakSSL doesn't like the > network changes. OK. Once I uncover whatever's hanging the SqueakTrunk build I'll yell, and we can give the ReleaseSqueakTrunk artifact one more whirl and declare victory. frank > Levente > > >> One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer >> for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a >> job to spit out such a thing. >> >> frank >> >> > |
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How about deleting the broken 'set language' menu entry from
TheWorldMenu>>helpMenu that David Lewis patched on Thursday? (*) It seems misleading to ship with a menu item that does nothing. Will Squeak 4.4 ship with any localizations, or only in English? If not, then probably it is ok to delete the menu entry and wait for 4.5 to fix the localization regression. Have fun and thanks for a great imminent release! David * {'set language...' . {Project. #chooseNaturalLanguage}. as mentioned in http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2012-December/167265.html p.s. I can't find the draft release notes on the mailing list or the swiki. (I guess they aren't in the update stream. If they are, I am afraid I don't know what method shows them.) Could someone post a link for me please? p.p.s. I am starting to hate 'new compose' in Gmail. squeak-dev moderator please delete the earlier version of this message I sent from an unsubscribed address. |
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On 29 December 2012 21:15, David Corking <[hidden email]> wrote:
> How about deleting the broken 'set language' menu entry from > TheWorldMenu>>helpMenu > that David Lewis patched on Thursday? (*) > > It seems misleading to ship with a menu item that does nothing. > > Will Squeak 4.4 ship with any localizations, or only in English? If > not, then probably it is ok to delete the menu entry and wait for 4.5 > to fix the localization regression. > > Have fun and thanks for a great imminent release! David > > * {'set language...' . {Project. #chooseNaturalLanguage}. > as mentioned in > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2012-December/167265.html > > p.s. I can't find the draft release notes on the mailing list or the > swiki. (I guess they aren't in the update stream. If they are, I am > afraid I don't know what method shows them.) Could someone post a link for me > please? The release notes do actually appear in the update stream, in the sense that the copy in the Welcome Workspaces appears in one of the more recent Morphic updates. (I plan to remove this at some point in 4.5: the Morphic package shouldn't depend on the ReleaseBuilder package.) But otherwise, if you grab a release candidate from here - http://squeakci.org/job/ReleaseSqueakTrunk/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/Squeak4.4-12324.zip - you'll get the release notes. They're deliberately short on detail, just punchy highlights. I think you may have asked for more detail on the Etoys network merge, so maybe you've actually seen them? frank > p.p.s. I am starting to hate 'new compose' in Gmail. squeak-dev > moderator please delete the earlier version of this message I sent > from an unsubscribed address. > |
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On 12/29/12 1:06 PM, "Frank Shearar" <[hidden email]> wrote: > Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung > - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their > luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? > > My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the > low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What > do others think? > > One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer > for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a > job to spit out such a thing. > > frank Good job !!! Edgar |
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Frank Shearar wrote:
>> p.s. I can't find the draft release notes on the mailing list or the >> swiki. (I guess they aren't in the update stream. If they are, I am >> afraid I don't know what method shows them.) Could someone post a link for me >> please? > > The release notes do actually appear in the update stream, in the > sense that the copy in the Welcome Workspaces appears in one of the > more recent Morphic updates. ... > They're deliberately short on detail, > just punchy highlights. Thanks to your hint I found them: TheWorldMainDockingBar sourceCodeAt: #welcomeToSqueak Punchy highlights are good. > I think you may have asked for more detail on > the Etoys network merge, so maybe you've actually seen them? That wasn't me. That was Gary Dunn. > (I plan to remove this at some point in > 4.5: the Morphic package shouldn't depend on the ReleaseBuilder > package.) (You will move it to another trunk package, I hope. Maybe it is my background in text-based languages, but I like to see release notes under source code control, as they are now.) Have fun! David |
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On 29 December 2012 21:47, David Corking <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Frank Shearar wrote: > >>> p.s. I can't find the draft release notes on the mailing list or the >>> swiki. (I guess they aren't in the update stream. If they are, I am >>> afraid I don't know what method shows them.) Could someone post a link for me >>> please? >> >> The release notes do actually appear in the update stream, in the >> sense that the copy in the Welcome Workspaces appears in one of the >> more recent Morphic updates. > ... >> They're deliberately short on detail, >> just punchy highlights. > > Thanks to your hint I found them: > > TheWorldMainDockingBar sourceCodeAt: #welcomeToSqueak > > Punchy highlights are good. > >> I think you may have asked for more detail on >> the Etoys network merge, so maybe you've actually seen them? > > That wasn't me. That was Gary Dunn. > >> (I plan to remove this at some point in >> 4.5: the Morphic package shouldn't depend on the ReleaseBuilder >> package.) > > (You will move it to another trunk package, I hope. Maybe it is my > background in text-based languages, but I like to see release notes > under source code control, as they are now.) They will certainly remain under source code control. I haven't thought how to break that Morphic->ReleaseBuilder dependency, but it feels right for ReleaseBuilder to have the release notes. frank > Have fun! David > |
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On 29 December 2012 21:06, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 29 December 2012 18:49, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote: >> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Frank Shearar wrote: >> >>> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung >>> - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their >>> luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? >>> >>> My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the >>> low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What >>> do others think? >>> >> >> I think it's time to release it, even though SqueakSSL doesn't like the >> network changes. > > OK. Once I uncover whatever's hanging the SqueakTrunk build I'll yell, > and we can give the ReleaseSqueakTrunk artifact one more whirl and > declare victory. It MAY be that there was an intermittent issue with source.squeak.org not accepting connections: I saw a ConnectionRefused while trying to reproduce the hung build locally. That could be because of my flakey home wifi, but then again (a) such an exception would raise a debugger and hang the build and (b) the builds have started not hanging [1]. At any rate, they do log a lot more: the update number, the tests they're running, and so on. [1] http://squeakci.org/job/SqueakTrunk/83/console > frank > >> Levente >> >> >>> One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer >>> for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a >>> job to spit out such a thing. >>> >>> frank >>> >>> >> |
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On 29 December 2012 22:15, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 29 December 2012 21:06, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >> On 29 December 2012 18:49, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Frank Shearar wrote: >>> >>>> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung >>>> - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their >>>> luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? >>>> >>>> My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the >>>> low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What >>>> do others think? >>>> >>> >>> I think it's time to release it, even though SqueakSSL doesn't like the >>> network changes. >> >> OK. Once I uncover whatever's hanging the SqueakTrunk build I'll yell, >> and we can give the ReleaseSqueakTrunk artifact one more whirl and >> declare victory. > > It MAY be that there was an intermittent issue with source.squeak.org > not accepting connections: I saw a ConnectionRefused while trying to > reproduce the hung build locally. That could be because of my flakey > home wifi, but then again (a) such an exception would raise a debugger > and hang the build and (b) the builds have started not hanging [1]. At > any rate, they do log a lot more: the update number, the tests they're > running, and so on. SqueakTrunk looks like it's back in business. ReleaseSqueakTrunk still has issues, because it looks like it's confused (or I've confused it) as to the artifacts it's supposed to use: it's consistently releasing 12324-based images instead of 12326-based ones. I shall hack on... frank > [1] http://squeakci.org/job/SqueakTrunk/83/console > >> frank >> >>> Levente >>> >>> >>>> One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer >>>> for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a >>>> job to spit out such a thing. >>>> >>>> frank >>>> >>>> >>> |
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I noticed the copyright stops at 2011, it should be at least 2012 (if
you're fast enough...) Nicolas 2012/12/31 Frank Shearar <[hidden email]>: > On 29 December 2012 22:15, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >> On 29 December 2012 21:06, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> On 29 December 2012 18:49, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Frank Shearar wrote: >>>> >>>>> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung >>>>> - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their >>>>> luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? >>>>> >>>>> My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the >>>>> low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What >>>>> do others think? >>>>> >>>> >>>> I think it's time to release it, even though SqueakSSL doesn't like the >>>> network changes. >>> >>> OK. Once I uncover whatever's hanging the SqueakTrunk build I'll yell, >>> and we can give the ReleaseSqueakTrunk artifact one more whirl and >>> declare victory. >> >> It MAY be that there was an intermittent issue with source.squeak.org >> not accepting connections: I saw a ConnectionRefused while trying to >> reproduce the hung build locally. That could be because of my flakey >> home wifi, but then again (a) such an exception would raise a debugger >> and hang the build and (b) the builds have started not hanging [1]. At >> any rate, they do log a lot more: the update number, the tests they're >> running, and so on. > > SqueakTrunk looks like it's back in business. ReleaseSqueakTrunk still > has issues, because it looks like it's confused (or I've confused it) > as to the artifacts it's supposed to use: it's consistently releasing > 12324-based images instead of 12326-based ones. I shall hack on... > > frank > >> [1] http://squeakci.org/job/SqueakTrunk/83/console >> >>> frank >>> >>>> Levente >>>> >>>> >>>>> One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer >>>>> for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a >>>>> job to spit out such a thing. >>>>> >>>>> frank >>>>> >>>>> >>>> > |
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On 31 December 2012 14:03, Nicolas Cellier
<[hidden email]> wrote: > I noticed the copyright stops at 2011, it should be at least 2012 (if > you're fast enough...) Where does that appear? frank > Nicolas > > 2012/12/31 Frank Shearar <[hidden email]>: >> On 29 December 2012 22:15, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> On 29 December 2012 21:06, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> On 29 December 2012 18:49, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Frank Shearar wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung >>>>>> - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their >>>>>> luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? >>>>>> >>>>>> My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the >>>>>> low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What >>>>>> do others think? >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I think it's time to release it, even though SqueakSSL doesn't like the >>>>> network changes. >>>> >>>> OK. Once I uncover whatever's hanging the SqueakTrunk build I'll yell, >>>> and we can give the ReleaseSqueakTrunk artifact one more whirl and >>>> declare victory. >>> >>> It MAY be that there was an intermittent issue with source.squeak.org >>> not accepting connections: I saw a ConnectionRefused while trying to >>> reproduce the hung build locally. That could be because of my flakey >>> home wifi, but then again (a) such an exception would raise a debugger >>> and hang the build and (b) the builds have started not hanging [1]. At >>> any rate, they do log a lot more: the update number, the tests they're >>> running, and so on. >> >> SqueakTrunk looks like it's back in business. ReleaseSqueakTrunk still >> has issues, because it looks like it's confused (or I've confused it) >> as to the artifacts it's supposed to use: it's consistently releasing >> 12324-based images instead of 12326-based ones. I shall hack on... >> >> frank >> >>> [1] http://squeakci.org/job/SqueakTrunk/83/console >>> >>>> frank >>>> >>>>> Levente >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer >>>>>> for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a >>>>>> job to spit out such a thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> frank >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >> > |
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2012/12/31 Frank Shearar <[hidden email]>:
> On 31 December 2012 14:03, Nicolas Cellier > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> I noticed the copyright stops at 2011, it should be at least 2012 (if >> you're fast enough...) > > Where does that appear? > > frank > The "Licence" workspace >> Nicolas >> >> 2012/12/31 Frank Shearar <[hidden email]>: >>> On 29 December 2012 22:15, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> On 29 December 2012 21:06, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> On 29 December 2012 18:49, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Frank Shearar wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung >>>>>>> - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their >>>>>>> luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the >>>>>>> low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What >>>>>>> do others think? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I think it's time to release it, even though SqueakSSL doesn't like the >>>>>> network changes. >>>>> >>>>> OK. Once I uncover whatever's hanging the SqueakTrunk build I'll yell, >>>>> and we can give the ReleaseSqueakTrunk artifact one more whirl and >>>>> declare victory. >>>> >>>> It MAY be that there was an intermittent issue with source.squeak.org >>>> not accepting connections: I saw a ConnectionRefused while trying to >>>> reproduce the hung build locally. That could be because of my flakey >>>> home wifi, but then again (a) such an exception would raise a debugger >>>> and hang the build and (b) the builds have started not hanging [1]. At >>>> any rate, they do log a lot more: the update number, the tests they're >>>> running, and so on. >>> >>> SqueakTrunk looks like it's back in business. ReleaseSqueakTrunk still >>> has issues, because it looks like it's confused (or I've confused it) >>> as to the artifacts it's supposed to use: it's consistently releasing >>> 12324-based images instead of 12326-based ones. I shall hack on... >>> >>> frank >>> >>>> [1] http://squeakci.org/job/SqueakTrunk/83/console >>>> >>>>> frank >>>>> >>>>>> Levente >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer >>>>>>> for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a >>>>>>> job to spit out such a thing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> frank >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >> > |
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On 31 December 2012 14:12, Nicolas Cellier
<[hidden email]> wrote: > 2012/12/31 Frank Shearar <[hidden email]>: >> On 31 December 2012 14:03, Nicolas Cellier >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> I noticed the copyright stops at 2011, it should be at least 2012 (if >>> you're fast enough...) >> >> Where does that appear? >> >> frank >> > > The "Licence" workspace Thanks! System-fbs.506 contains the fix. And I beat the ReleaseSqueakTrunk job into submission: http://squeakci.org/job/ReleaseSqueakTrunk/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/target/Squeak4.4-12326.zip I'd really like to release this guy today, so if anyone has anything _urgent_ to get in, now's the time. I still have to do two more things for this release: populate the 44 update stream, and then declare 4.4 finished. I don't think we need to do anything further to make trunk ready for 4.5, do we? 4.5 alpha just becomes the update after 4.4 splits off. Regarding the All-in-One, is it sufficient to take the 4.3 one and replace the Cog and image/changes file in it to produce a new one? frank >>> Nicolas >>> >>> 2012/12/31 Frank Shearar <[hidden email]>: >>>> On 29 December 2012 22:15, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> On 29 December 2012 21:06, Frank Shearar <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> On 29 December 2012 18:49, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 29 Dec 2012, Frank Shearar wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Other than the fact that the last two builds for SqueakTrunk have hung >>>>>>>> - an issue I'm looking into, but wouldn't mind others trying their >>>>>>>> luck - are we happy enough with 4.4 that we'd want to ship it? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My gut feel is (and with my Release Manager hat on), judging by the >>>>>>>> low severity of the few reports we're seeing, that we're there. What >>>>>>>> do others think? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it's time to release it, even though SqueakSSL doesn't like the >>>>>>> network changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK. Once I uncover whatever's hanging the SqueakTrunk build I'll yell, >>>>>> and we can give the ReleaseSqueakTrunk artifact one more whirl and >>>>>> declare victory. >>>>> >>>>> It MAY be that there was an intermittent issue with source.squeak.org >>>>> not accepting connections: I saw a ConnectionRefused while trying to >>>>> reproduce the hung build locally. That could be because of my flakey >>>>> home wifi, but then again (a) such an exception would raise a debugger >>>>> and hang the build and (b) the builds have started not hanging [1]. At >>>>> any rate, they do log a lot more: the update number, the tests they're >>>>> running, and so on. >>>> >>>> SqueakTrunk looks like it's back in business. ReleaseSqueakTrunk still >>>> has issues, because it looks like it's confused (or I've confused it) >>>> as to the artifacts it's supposed to use: it's consistently releasing >>>> 12324-based images instead of 12326-based ones. I shall hack on... >>>> >>>> frank >>>> >>>>> [1] http://squeakci.org/job/SqueakTrunk/83/console >>>>> >>>>>> frank >>>>>> >>>>>>> Levente >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One thing we _don't_ have is an "All-in-one" one-click type installer >>>>>>>> for the various OSes. If someone can show me what to do, I can add a >>>>>>>> job to spit out such a thing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> frank >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>> >> > |
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That's what I've been doing. Just change the image name in: squeak.sh, squeak.ini and info.plist for Unix, Windows and OSX respectively. Set the "WindowTitle" to something appropriate in squeak.ini too. Oh, and don't let your text editor muck up the line endings. ;) |
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In reply to this post by Frank Shearar-3
Am 31.12.2012 15:30, schrieb Frank Shearar:
> Regarding the All-in-One, is it sufficient to take the 4.3 one and > replace the Cog and image/changes file in it to produce a new one? frank yes, at least that's what I always do. Replacing all Cog VM's needs some extra care in Linux as to remove all scripts which still point to the old VM. At least from a Windows point of view this is complicated. Cheers, Herbert |
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On 31 December 2012 15:22, Herbert König <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Am 31.12.2012 15:30, schrieb Frank Shearar: > >> Regarding the All-in-One, is it sufficient to take the 4.3 one and replace >> the Cog and image/changes file in it to produce a new one? frank > > yes, at least that's what I always do. Replacing all Cog VM's needs some > extra care in Linux as to remove all scripts which still point to the old > VM. At least from a Windows point of view this is complicated. Mm, it's not just that: there are bits of VM and plugins scattered all over the place. frank > Cheers, > > > Herbert > |
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