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64-bit hardware [was [ANN] (gem)Stone Soup]

Martin McClure
> Could we have a few comments on the 64 bit hardware?  I'm sure that  
> some folks understand the nuances but a few minutes on Wikipedia has  
> made my head hurt.

Yes, it'll do that. :-)

>
> I assume that the processor needs to be 64 bit and this means either  
> AMD64 or Intel's Core 2 (Duo?)?

Correct. Any of the AMD 64-bit CPUs should work fine, as well as any
Intel processor with their 64-bit extensions.

>
> If I was going to setup a linux box using either RedHat/Suse  
> Enterprise x versions what would be an example hardware spec?

Wide variations are possible, but I'll give some examples.

Machines I use (and successfully run GemStone on) are these:

My home desktop, built myself, components of various ages up to 3 years:
   Athlon 64 CPU
   2GiB DDR 400MHz RAM
   1 350GB SATA 300 hard drive

My work desktop, a Dell Precision 390:
   Intel Core 2 duo 6600 dual-core CPU, 2.4GHz
   2GiB DDR2 667MHz RAM
   2 350GB SATA 300 drives

My laptop, a MacBook manufactured in February 2007:
   Intel Core 2 duo T7200 dual-core CPU, 2.0GHz
   2GiB DDR2 667MHz RAM
   1 80G SATA drive

I run Gentoo Linux on all of these (and the MacBook dual-boots with Mac
OS X). Most other folks here at GemStone run Suse. Whatever you run, get
the latest version.

Unless you're running a high-volume production system (please note that
I do not define "high-volume", YMMV) a single-core CPU, 1G of RAM, and a
single SATA drive should do fine. Last I checked, you could build one of
these for about $700 using fairly high-quality components. Each of the
commercial dual-core systems above cost about $1500.

Regards,

-Martin
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Re: 64-bit hardware [was [ANN] (gem)Stone Soup]

jgfoster
I went to http://www.dell.com and entered '6V620-DDCWBC2' in the search box
and took each of the lowest-cost options and came up with US$439 for a 64-bit
machine with 1 GB of RAM and 160 GB of hard disk. I did some other poking
around and came up with a similar configuration for US$409 in their Small
Business area. The offer code '6V620-DNDWHA2' will give you a notebook for
$699.

Your next computer should be a 64-bit machine.

James

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 12:30 pm, Martin McClure wrote:

> > Could we have a few comments on the 64 bit hardware?  I'm sure that
> > some folks understand the nuances but a few minutes on Wikipedia has
> > made my head hurt.
>
> Yes, it'll do that. :-)
>
> > I assume that the processor needs to be 64 bit and this means either
> > AMD64 or Intel's Core 2 (Duo?)?
>
> Correct. Any of the AMD 64-bit CPUs should work fine, as well as any
> Intel processor with their 64-bit extensions.
>
> > If I was going to setup a linux box using either RedHat/Suse
> > Enterprise x versions what would be an example hardware spec?
>
> Wide variations are possible, but I'll give some examples.
>
> Machines I use (and successfully run GemStone on) are these:
>
> My home desktop, built myself, components of various ages up to 3 years:
>    Athlon 64 CPU
>    2GiB DDR 400MHz RAM
>    1 350GB SATA 300 hard drive
>
> My work desktop, a Dell Precision 390:
>    Intel Core 2 duo 6600 dual-core CPU, 2.4GHz
>    2GiB DDR2 667MHz RAM
>    2 350GB SATA 300 drives
>
> My laptop, a MacBook manufactured in February 2007:
>    Intel Core 2 duo T7200 dual-core CPU, 2.0GHz
>    2GiB DDR2 667MHz RAM
>    1 80G SATA drive
>
> I run Gentoo Linux on all of these (and the MacBook dual-boots with Mac
> OS X). Most other folks here at GemStone run Suse. Whatever you run, get
> the latest version.
>
> Unless you're running a high-volume production system (please note that
> I do not define "high-volume", YMMV) a single-core CPU, 1G of RAM, and a
> single SATA drive should do fine. Last I checked, you could build one of
> these for about $700 using fairly high-quality components. Each of the
> commercial dual-core systems above cost about $1500.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Martin
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Re: 64-bit hardware [was [ANN] (gem)Stone Soup]

Yann Monclair-2
I added a requirement for my new computer since Smalltalk Solutions: It has to be able to run gemstone/s 64 ;)

Yann

On 5/8/07, James Foster <[hidden email]> wrote:
I went to http://www.dell.com and entered '6V620-DDCWBC2' in the search box
and took each of the lowest-cost options and came up with US$439 for a 64-bit
machine with 1 GB of RAM and 160 GB of hard disk. I did some other poking
around and came up with a similar configuration for US$409 in their Small
Business area. The offer code '6V620-DNDWHA2' will give you a notebook for
$699.

Your next computer should be a 64-bit machine.

James

On Tuesday 08 May 2007 12:30 pm, Martin McClure wrote:

> > Could we have a few comments on the 64 bit hardware?  I'm sure that
> > some folks understand the nuances but a few minutes on Wikipedia has
> > made my head hurt.
>
> Yes, it'll do that. :-)
>
> > I assume that the processor needs to be 64 bit and this means either
> > AMD64 or Intel's Core 2 (Duo?)?
>
> Correct. Any of the AMD 64-bit CPUs should work fine, as well as any
> Intel processor with their 64-bit extensions.
>
> > If I was going to setup a linux box using either RedHat/Suse
> > Enterprise x versions what would be an example hardware spec?
>
> Wide variations are possible, but I'll give some examples.

>
> Machines I use (and successfully run GemStone on) are these:
>
> My home desktop, built myself, components of various ages up to 3 years:
>    Athlon 64 CPU
>    2GiB DDR 400MHz RAM
>    1 350GB SATA 300 hard drive
>
> My work desktop, a Dell Precision 390:
>    Intel Core 2 duo 6600 dual-core CPU, 2.4GHz
>    2GiB DDR2 667MHz RAM
>    2 350GB SATA 300 drives
>
> My laptop, a MacBook manufactured in February 2007:
>    Intel Core 2 duo T7200 dual-core CPU, 2.0GHz
>    2GiB DDR2 667MHz RAM
>    1 80G SATA drive
>

> I run Gentoo Linux on all of these (and the MacBook dual-boots with Mac
> OS X). Most other folks here at GemStone run Suse. Whatever you run, get
> the latest version.
>
> Unless you're running a high-volume production system (please note that
> I do not define "high-volume", YMMV) a single-core CPU, 1G of RAM, and a
> single SATA drive should do fine. Last I checked, you could build one of
> these for about $700 using fairly high-quality components. Each of the
> commercial dual-core systems above cost about $1500.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Martin
> _______________________________________________
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Re: 64-bit hardware [was [ANN] (gem)Stone Soup]

Philippe Marschall
How can you buy a computer today that does not have a 64bit CPU? Even
Pentium D, Semprons, Celerons are 64bit. The only thing I know of that
still is 32bit are Intel Core and Pentium-M processors but they are
dying out quickly.

Cheers
Philippe

2007/5/9, Yann Monclair <[hidden email]>:

> I added a requirement for my new computer since Smalltalk Solutions: It has
> to be able to run gemstone/s 64 ;)
>
> Yann
>
>
> On 5/8/07, James Foster < [hidden email]> wrote:
> > I went to http://www.dell.com and entered '6V620-DDCWBC2' in the search
> box
> > and took each of the lowest-cost options and came up with US$439 for a
> 64-bit
> > machine with 1 GB of RAM and 160 GB of hard disk. I did some other poking
> > around and came up with a similar configuration for US$409 in their Small
> > Business area. The offer code '6V620-DNDWHA2' will give you a notebook for
> > $699.
> >
> > Your next computer should be a 64-bit machine.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Tuesday 08 May 2007 12:30 pm, Martin McClure wrote:
> > > > Could we have a few comments on the 64 bit hardware?  I'm sure that
> > > > some folks understand the nuances but a few minutes on Wikipedia has
> > > > made my head hurt.
> > >
> > > Yes, it'll do that. :-)
> > >
> > > > I assume that the processor needs to be 64 bit and this means either
> > > > AMD64 or Intel's Core 2 (Duo?)?
> > >
> > > Correct. Any of the AMD 64-bit CPUs should work fine, as well as any
> > > Intel processor with their 64-bit extensions.
> > >
> > > > If I was going to setup a linux box using either RedHat/Suse
> > > > Enterprise x versions what would be an example hardware spec?
> > >
> > > Wide variations are possible, but I'll give some examples.
> > >
> > > Machines I use (and successfully run GemStone on) are these:
> > >
> > > My home desktop, built myself, components of various ages up to 3 years:
> > >    Athlon 64 CPU
> > >    2GiB DDR 400MHz RAM
> > >    1 350GB SATA 300 hard drive
> > >
> > > My work desktop, a Dell Precision 390:
> > >    Intel Core 2 duo 6600 dual-core CPU, 2.4GHz
> > >    2GiB DDR2 667MHz RAM
> > >    2 350GB SATA 300 drives
> > >
> > > My laptop, a MacBook manufactured in February 2007:
> > >    Intel Core 2 duo T7200 dual-core CPU, 2.0GHz
> > >    2GiB DDR2 667MHz RAM
> > >    1 80G SATA drive
> > >
> > > I run Gentoo Linux on all of these (and the MacBook dual-boots with Mac
> > > OS X). Most other folks here at GemStone run Suse. Whatever you run, get
> > > the latest version.
> > >
> > > Unless you're running a high-volume production system (please note that
> > > I do not define "high-volume", YMMV) a single-core CPU, 1G of RAM, and a
> > > single SATA drive should do fine. Last I checked, you could build one of
> > > these for about $700 using fairly high-quality components. Each of the
> > > commercial dual-core systems above cost about $1500.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > -Martin
> > > _______________________________________________
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