[7.7] Number>>second is wrong? (Grease-VisualWorks-Core)

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This comes from Grease. John O¹Keefe and I were advocating for removing this
and just having #seconds (assuming we have this protocol at all). I think
having to say ³1 seconds² is much better than having twice the number of
methods and having ³5 second² return an unintuitive result. It's also weird
since #second on a collection returns the second item. Smalltalk may read
like English, but it¹s still a programming language not a natural language.
:)

If you want to confirm that those singular methods are still in the upstream
Grease packages, please feel free to file an issue in the Seaside bugtracker
and I¹ll make sure they¹re removed. (also interested in opinions‹but not an
extended debate! :)‹on the value of the plural forms, I guess)

Julian

On 10-08-05 11:30 AM, "Boris Popov" <[hidden email]> wrote:


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Julian,

>From what I can tell it's part of Kernel-Numbers in Pharo, so it must be part of Grease only for VisualWorks. I definitely think the method is flawed in that it'll completely ignore the value of the receiver (only its sign) and has no place in either Pharo or Grease-VisualWorks-Core. As for the plural form, I like '2 seconds wait' expressions, not sure what you were asking though.

Regards,

-Boris

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-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Fitzell [mailto:[hidden email]]
Sent: 05 August 2010 14:23
To: Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN); VW NC
Subject: Re: [vwnc] [7.7] Number>>second is wrong? (Grease-VisualWorks-Core)

This comes from Grease. John O¹Keefe and I were advocating for removing this and just having #seconds (assuming we have this protocol at all). I think having to say ³1 seconds² is much better than having twice the number of methods and having ³5 second² return an unintuitive result. It's also weird since #second on a collection returns the second item. Smalltalk may read like English, but it¹s still a programming language not a natural language.
:)

If you want to confirm that those singular methods are still in the upstream Grease packages, please feel free to file an issue in the Seaside bugtracker and I¹ll make sure they¹re removed. (also interested in opinions‹but not an extended debate! :)‹on the value of the plural forms, I guess)

Julian

On 10-08-05 11:30 AM, "Boris Popov" <[hidden email]> wrote:

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Julian,

the merhod name second is really misleading in this context. it should
go away regardless of how it's implemented ;-) . Even if that means
you'd have to write '1 seconds'.

Joachim


Am 05.08.10 15:22, schrieb Julian Fitzell:
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