A dog-slow browser

> kind of GC (like gemstine) that I was not aware of  :)
>
>
>>
>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:37 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> just a wild guess: maybe its a GC edge case?
>>>>
>>>> When it happens, trigger a full GC and see if it is still slow...
>>>>
>>>>
>>> how do you do that Adrian ?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Adrian
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:26 , Gary Chambers wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> A good few months back I noticed similarly inexplicable slowness (that
>> I
>>>>> mistakenly ascribed to some changes...). Went away after image
>>>>> save/restart... maybe that kind of thing has happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Igor Stasenko" <[hidden email]>
>>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:16 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only
>>>> one
>>>>>>> used though...)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have to take my words back.
>>>>>> Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast..
>>>>>> As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse
>>>>>> cursor each time i switching between methods in browser.
>>>>>> What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics
>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> core
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting...
>>>>>>>> In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a
>> fast
>>>>>>>> machine?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>
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> On 2010-01-20, at 8:08 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
>> Caching should in contrary increase the speed, isnt?
>> And i wouldn't say that my machine is slow
>> CPU0: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor stepping 03
>> '85618729 bytecodes/sec; 4708854 sends/sec'
>
>
> *slow*
>
> A *tuned* VM on Ubuntu on my macbook pro 2.33 intel Core 2 Duo gives
> 573,991,031 bytescodes/sec and 14,406,658 sends/sec.

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> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
>> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only one
>> used though...)
>
> I have to take my words back.
> Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast..
> As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse
> cursor each time i switching between methods in browser.
> What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions?
>

>
> I'm guessing Marcus is using a V5 VM?  '419328419 bytecodes/sec; 11484087 sends/sec'
>
> Would like to know what machine Gary Chambers is using?
> (1 tinyBenchmarks  '566998892 bytecodes/sec; 16433596 sends/sec') here.
>
>
> On 2010-01-20, at 11:07 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>> What's tuned?
>>
>>
>> Levente
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> On 2010-01-20, at 8:08 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
>> Caching should in contrary increase the speed, isnt?
>> And i wouldn't say that my machine is slow
>> CPU0: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor stepping 03
>> '85618729 bytecodes/sec; 4708854 sends/sec'
>
>
> *slow*

>
> A *tuned* VM on Ubuntu on my macbook pro 2.33 intel Core 2 Duo gives
> 573,991,031 bytescodes/sec and 14,406,658 sends/sec.
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> Ok, in the class Morph it is not really smooth, also on my MacBook Pro.
>
> I quickly did some profiling and came up with the following speedups (i.e., experimental hacks):
>
> <BrowserSpeedup.1.cs>
>
> Is it better now?
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian
>
> BTW, not GC makes it slow but often recomputing the method list. Also, button colors are computed expensively, even though they are not used.
>
>
> On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:56 , Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Smalltalk garbageCollect
>>>>
>>>
>>> hahahaha sorry. As you said "a full GC" I imagined that there was another
>>
>> There is: incremental gc. You can trigger it with Smalltalk
>> garbageCollectMost.
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>> kind of GC (like gemstine) that I was not aware of  :)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:37 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> just a wild guess: maybe its a GC edge case?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When it happens, trigger a full GC and see if it is still slow...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> how do you do that Adrian ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Adrian
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 17:26 , Gary Chambers wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A good few months back I noticed similarly inexplicable slowness (that
>>>> I
>>>>>>> mistakenly ascribed to some changes...). Went away after image
>>>>>>> save/restart... maybe that kind of thing has happened.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards, Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Igor Stasenko" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:16 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only
>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>> used though...)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have to take my words back.
>>>>>>>> Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast..
>>>>>>>> As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse
>>>>>>>> cursor each time i switching between methods in browser.
>>>>>>>> What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards, Gary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>> To: <[hidden email]>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 3:47 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] A dog-slow browser
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:35 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please, don't take it as a offense, but as a constructive critics
>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo-core browser is awfully slooow!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pharo core? Or Pharo dev?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> core
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It should not... it uses the fast fonts, no syntax highligting...
>>>>>>>>>> In essense, it should be the same performance than Squeak 3.9.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is it slower than that? I can not see any problem (the curse of a
>>>> fast
>>>>>>>>>> machine?)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
>>>>>>>>>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig.
>>>>>>>>
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> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, John M McIntosh wrote:
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>>
>> On 2010-01-20, at 8:08 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>>> 2010/1/20 Marcus Denker <[hidden email]>:
>>> Caching should in contrary increase the speed, isnt?
>>> And i wouldn't say that my machine is slow
>>> CPU0: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor stepping 03
>>> '85618729 bytecodes/sec; 4708854 sends/sec'
>>
>>
>> *slow*
>
> I guess that vm is not gnuified.
>

>
> Levente
>
>>
>> A *tuned* VM on Ubuntu on my macbook pro 2.33 intel Core 2 Duo gives
>> 573,991,031 bytescodes/sec and 14,406,658 sends/sec.
>>
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> Mmm That's the Cursor wait
> look for senders
> I've noticed if you bring up a sends of #wait then click on method, it takes *time* to build the senders lists/other stuff.
> I suspect there is a ton of work going on..
>
> I'm reminded that in the ftp://ftp.smalltalkconsulting.com/experimental/64bit
> you find:
> Squeak V5 SLOW VERSION FOR TESTING DO NOT USE FOR GENERAL USE.app
>
> which is a version 5.0 VM that will run very slow on your fast machines. You can use that to see why Igor thinks
> things are slow.
>
> On 2010-01-20, at 8:16 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>> 2010/1/20 Gary Chambers <[hidden email]>:
>>> Super quick here... (1.1 latest updates, admittedly a quad-core, only one
>>> used though...)
>>
>> I have to take my words back.
>> Strange, very strange.. its now magically started working quite fast..
>> As i said, first time i run it, it was flickering the hourglass mouse
>> cursor each time i switching between methods in browser.
>> What was it? And why it disappears? Any suggestions?
>>
>
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> You have to adjust the gnufied interp.c and the compiler options based on your compiler version to
> generate the most optimum code for bytecode execution and the common send block.
>
> I'm guessing Marcus is using a V5 VM?  '419328419 bytecodes/sec; 11484087 sends/sec'
>
> Would like to know what machine Gary Chambers is using?
> (1 tinyBenchmarks  '566998892 bytecodes/sec; 16433596 sends/sec') here.
>
>
> On 2010-01-20, at 11:07 AM, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
> > What's tuned?
> >
> >
> > Levente
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> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
>>> 2010/1/20 Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> I guess that vm is not gnuified.
>>>
>>
>>I installed one that was avail for linux, latest one. Didn't built it
> myself.
>
> I just checked on a "not-that-fast" machine with the binary versions from
> squeakvm.org:
>
> 3.11-3.2135 -> #(
>        '204309656 bytecodes/sec; 7660022 sends/sec'
>        '202852614 bytecodes/sec; 7722256 sends/sec'
>        '205457463 bytecodes/sec; 7785510 sends/sec')
>
> 3.10.6 -> #(
>        '380386329 bytecodes/sec; 9512738 sends/sec'
>        '377025036 bytecodes/sec; 10174641 sends/sec'
>        '378978534 bytecodes/sec; 10183725 sends/sec')
>
> The 3.11-3.2135 is not gnuified and I couldn't force cmake to gnuify it
> (though I didn't try really hard). I think this is an issue that should
> be solved.
>

>
> Levente
>
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> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>>>> 2010/1/20 Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>> I guess that vm is not gnuified.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I installed one that was avail for linux, latest one. Didn't built it
>> myself.
>>
>> I just checked on a "not-that-fast" machine with the binary versions from
>> squeakvm.org:
>>
>> 3.11-3.2135 -> #(
>>        '204309656 bytecodes/sec; 7660022 sends/sec'
>>        '202852614 bytecodes/sec; 7722256 sends/sec'
>>        '205457463 bytecodes/sec; 7785510 sends/sec')
>>
>> 3.10.6 -> #(
>>        '380386329 bytecodes/sec; 9512738 sends/sec'
>>        '377025036 bytecodes/sec; 10174641 sends/sec'
>>        '378978534 bytecodes/sec; 10183725 sends/sec')
>>
>> The 3.11-3.2135 is not gnuified and I couldn't force cmake to gnuify it
>> (though I didn't try really hard). I think this is an issue that should
>> be solved.
>>
>
> I think the right way is to include John's image level gnuification script
> and produce an extra engine from within VMMaker.  That's what I do.
> Changing makefiles and/or configurations to choose between the two
> available interpreters is easier than applying a gnuification scirpt.

>
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Levente
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> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>> >> 2010/1/20 Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]>:
>> >>
>> >> I guess that vm is not gnuified.
>> >>
>> >
>> >I installed one that was avail for linux, latest one. Didn't built it
>> myself.
>>
>> I just checked on a "not-that-fast" machine with the binary versions from
>> squeakvm.org:
>>
>> 3.11-3.2135 -> #(
>>        '204309656 bytecodes/sec; 7660022 sends/sec'
>>        '202852614 bytecodes/sec; 7722256 sends/sec'
>>        '205457463 bytecodes/sec; 7785510 sends/sec')
>>
>> 3.10.6 -> #(
>>        '380386329 bytecodes/sec; 9512738 sends/sec'
>>        '377025036 bytecodes/sec; 10174641 sends/sec'
>>        '378978534 bytecodes/sec; 10183725 sends/sec')
>>
>> The 3.11-3.2135 is not gnuified and I couldn't force cmake to gnuify it
>> (though I didn't try really hard). I think this is an issue that should
>> be solved.
>>
>
> I think the right way is to include John's image level gnuification script
> and produce an extra engine from within VMMaker.  That's what I do.
>  Changing makefiles and/or configurations to choose between the two
> available interpreters is easier than applying a gnuification scirpt.
>
>>
>>
>> Levente
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Levente
>> >>
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> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>
> >> 2010/1/20 Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]>:
> >>
> >> I guess that vm is not gnuified.
> >>
> >
> >I installed one that was avail for linux, latest one. Didn't built it
> myself.
>
> I just checked on a "not-that-fast" machine with the binary versions from
> squeakvm.org:
>
> 3.11-3.2135 -> #(
>   '204309656 bytecodes/sec; 7660022 sends/sec'
>   '202852614 bytecodes/sec; 7722256 sends/sec'
>   '205457463 bytecodes/sec; 7785510 sends/sec')
>
> 3.10.6 -> #(
>   '380386329 bytecodes/sec; 9512738 sends/sec'
>   '377025036 bytecodes/sec; 10174641 sends/sec'
>   '378978534 bytecodes/sec; 10183725 sends/sec')
>
> The 3.11-3.2135 is not gnuified and I couldn't force cmake to gnuify it
> (though I didn't try really hard). I think this is an issue that should
> be solved.

> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:54:03PM +0100, Levente Uzonyi wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jan 2010, Igor Stasenko wrote:
>>
>>>> 2010/1/20 Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>> I guess that vm is not gnuified.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I installed one that was avail for linux, latest one. Didn't built it
>> myself.
>>
>> I just checked on a "not-that-fast" machine with the binary versions from
>> squeakvm.org:
>>
>> 3.11-3.2135 -> #(
>>   '204309656 bytecodes/sec; 7660022 sends/sec'
>>   '202852614 bytecodes/sec; 7722256 sends/sec'
>>   '205457463 bytecodes/sec; 7785510 sends/sec')
>>
>> 3.10.6 -> #(
>>   '380386329 bytecodes/sec; 9512738 sends/sec'
>>   '377025036 bytecodes/sec; 10174641 sends/sec'
>>   '378978534 bytecodes/sec; 10183725 sends/sec')
>>
>> The 3.11-3.2135 is not gnuified and I couldn't force cmake to gnuify it
>> (though I didn't try really hard). I think this is an issue that should
>> be solved.
>
> Levente,
>
> For a while after the unix VM build was converted to cmake, the gnuify
> step was missing. This was fixed some time ago (I don't remember the date
> exactly). If you get the latest code from the Subversion repository, it
> should produce a gnuified VM when you do the build.
>
> I'm not sure if the 3.11-3.2135 is properly gnuified or not. If not,
> then it's probably time for a new build on the web site.