Dear all,
For forthcoming Scribo one-click image to be as easy as possible for newcomers and non Smalltalkers we need to build a small GUI app for start and stop of Scribo. Anyone volunteering for that really simple Squeak Morphic app? I see this app in a small window, with: 1. Scribo logo at the top 2. two buttons: Start, Stop, one is obviously grayed and disabled. 3. aidademo running at http://localhost:8888 (this line is written from AIDASite data, one line for each AIDASite present. See SwazooServer singleton sites) 4. class name: ScriboStartup (or osmething like that) That's it? Isn't really simple :) Janko -- Janko Mivšek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida |
Not much time, however I talked something with Nico and he told me
that should be better to avoid using any framework (I was thinking in use EasyMorphicGUI or even MCTool). Then I found some free minutes, and tried to build something with pure morphic, and I have something like the screen attached. Not work yet, but is only and idea, to know if may be useful or not. Let me know. Cheers. 2008/10/5 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>: > Dear all, > > For forthcoming Scribo one-click image to be as easy as possible for > newcomers and non Smalltalkers we need to build a small GUI app for > start and stop of Scribo. > > Anyone volunteering for that really simple Squeak Morphic app? > > I see this app in a small window, with: > > 1. Scribo logo at the top > 2. two buttons: Start, Stop, one is obviously grayed and disabled. > 3. aidademo running at http://localhost:8888 > (this line is written from AIDASite data, one line for each > AIDASite present. See SwazooServer singleton sites) > 4. class name: ScriboStartup (or osmething like that) > > That's it? Isn't really simple :) > > Janko > > > > > -- > Janko Mivšek > AIDA/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > _______________________________________________ > Aida mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida > -- Germán S. Arduino http://www.arsol.biz http://www.arsol.net _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida scriboconsole.jpg (18K) Download Attachment |
I just had a thought.
What if we simply put an always running AIDA/Scribo admin web page on an uncommon port. This way if the setup is running headless or on another machine an admin page can be always available to start and stop AIDA/Scribo sites and apps as desired. This admin should always be on and running and independent of any other AIDA/Scribo site or app. It should be aware of all AIDA/Scribo sites and apps that are installed or available to be installed and configured. This way the UI is put into skill set of those who use and develop AIDA/Scribo and would also be available to any of the Smalltalks running AIDA/Scribo. It could be built to handle any and all website administration, installation, configuration, etc. functionality the community wants. Just wanted to put that out there. Jimmie Germán Arduino wrote: > Not much time, however I talked something with Nico and he told me > that should be better to avoid using any framework (I was thinking in > use EasyMorphicGUI or even MCTool). > > Then I found some free minutes, and tried to build something with pure > morphic, and I have something like the screen attached. Not work yet, > but is only and idea, to know if may be useful or not. > > Let me know. > > Cheers. > > 2008/10/5 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>: >> Dear all, >> >> For forthcoming Scribo one-click image to be as easy as possible for >> newcomers and non Smalltalkers we need to build a small GUI app for >> start and stop of Scribo. >> >> Anyone volunteering for that really simple Squeak Morphic app? >> >> I see this app in a small window, with: >> >> 1. Scribo logo at the top >> 2. two buttons: Start, Stop, one is obviously grayed and disabled. >> 3. aidademo running at http://localhost:8888 >> (this line is written from AIDASite data, one line for each >> AIDASite present. See SwazooServer singleton sites) >> 4. class name: ScriboStartup (or osmething like that) >> >> That's it? Isn't really simple :) >> >> Janko _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida |
Well, I asked Janko when he posted this mail about the sort of UI (web
or desktop) and he tell me that prefer desktop. Being desktop not a big problem to execute, if you have VNC running on such image. But, I think that Janko and Nico should respond :) Cheers. 2008/10/28 Jimmie Houchin <[hidden email]>: > I just had a thought. > > What if we simply put an always running AIDA/Scribo admin web page on an > uncommon port. This way if the setup is running headless or on another > machine an admin page can be always available to start and stop > AIDA/Scribo sites and apps as desired. > > This admin should always be on and running and independent of any other > AIDA/Scribo site or app. It should be aware of all AIDA/Scribo sites and > apps that are installed or available to be installed and configured. > > This way the UI is put into skill set of those who use and develop > AIDA/Scribo and would also be available to any of the Smalltalks running > AIDA/Scribo. It could be built to handle any and all website > administration, installation, configuration, etc. functionality the > community wants. > > Just wanted to put that out there. > > Jimmie > > > > Germán Arduino wrote: >> Not much time, however I talked something with Nico and he told me >> that should be better to avoid using any framework (I was thinking in >> use EasyMorphicGUI or even MCTool). >> >> Then I found some free minutes, and tried to build something with pure >> morphic, and I have something like the screen attached. Not work yet, >> but is only and idea, to know if may be useful or not. >> >> Let me know. >> >> Cheers. >> >> 2008/10/5 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> For forthcoming Scribo one-click image to be as easy as possible for >>> newcomers and non Smalltalkers we need to build a small GUI app for >>> start and stop of Scribo. >>> >>> Anyone volunteering for that really simple Squeak Morphic app? >>> >>> I see this app in a small window, with: >>> >>> 1. Scribo logo at the top >>> 2. two buttons: Start, Stop, one is obviously grayed and disabled. >>> 3. aidademo running at http://localhost:8888 >>> (this line is written from AIDASite data, one line for each >>> AIDASite present. See SwazooServer singleton sites) >>> 4. class name: ScriboStartup (or osmething like that) >>> >>> That's it? Isn't really simple :) >>> >>> Janko > > _______________________________________________ > Aida mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida > -- Germán S. Arduino http://www.arsol.biz http://www.arsol.net _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida |
Germán Arduino wrote:
> Well, I asked Janko when he posted this mail about the sort of UI (web > or desktop) and he tell me that prefer desktop. > > Being desktop not a big problem to execute, if you have VNC running on > such image. > > But, I think that Janko and Nico should respond :) I like to have just a very simple GUI app for a end user to start a web server and guide them further by providing an url which should open next. This url will then open a full website, also with configuration and admin web apps for more advanced configuration. I like Jimmie's proposal and I thought many times already in that direction. We really need some "neutral" website to add new sites, for instance. But this is already an advanced feature, let we finish this newcomer guidance first: a simple GUI app just to start website, where url is listed to guide user to open next. On the web side we need to finish newcomer friendly configuration, specially the most common one like changing hostname/ip/port of the default site. Best regards Janko > 2008/10/28 Jimmie Houchin <[hidden email]>: >> I just had a thought. >> >> What if we simply put an always running AIDA/Scribo admin web page on an >> uncommon port. This way if the setup is running headless or on another >> machine an admin page can be always available to start and stop >> AIDA/Scribo sites and apps as desired. >> >> This admin should always be on and running and independent of any other >> AIDA/Scribo site or app. It should be aware of all AIDA/Scribo sites and >> apps that are installed or available to be installed and configured. >> >> This way the UI is put into skill set of those who use and develop >> AIDA/Scribo and would also be available to any of the Smalltalks running >> AIDA/Scribo. It could be built to handle any and all website >> administration, installation, configuration, etc. functionality the >> community wants. >> >> Just wanted to put that out there. >> >> Jimmie >> >> >> >> Germán Arduino wrote: >>> Not much time, however I talked something with Nico and he told me >>> that should be better to avoid using any framework (I was thinking in >>> use EasyMorphicGUI or even MCTool). >>> >>> Then I found some free minutes, and tried to build something with pure >>> morphic, and I have something like the screen attached. Not work yet, >>> but is only and idea, to know if may be useful or not. >>> >>> Let me know. >>> >>> Cheers. >>> >>> 2008/10/5 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>: >>>> Dear all, >>>> >>>> For forthcoming Scribo one-click image to be as easy as possible for >>>> newcomers and non Smalltalkers we need to build a small GUI app for >>>> start and stop of Scribo. >>>> >>>> Anyone volunteering for that really simple Squeak Morphic app? >>>> >>>> I see this app in a small window, with: >>>> >>>> 1. Scribo logo at the top >>>> 2. two buttons: Start, Stop, one is obviously grayed and disabled. >>>> 3. aidademo running at http://localhost:8888 >>>> (this line is written from AIDASite data, one line for each >>>> AIDASite present. See SwazooServer singleton sites) >>>> 4. class name: ScriboStartup (or osmething like that) >>>> >>>> That's it? Isn't really simple :) >>>> >>>> Janko >> _______________________________________________ >> Aida mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida >> > > > -- Janko Mivšek AIDA/Web Smalltalk Web Application Server http://www.aidaweb.si _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida |
Well, the job is almost finished.
A pic is attached and the details on my blog (http://germanarduino.blogspot.com). HTH. 2008/10/28 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>: > Germán Arduino wrote: >> Well, I asked Janko when he posted this mail about the sort of UI (web >> or desktop) and he tell me that prefer desktop. >> >> Being desktop not a big problem to execute, if you have VNC running on >> such image. >> >> But, I think that Janko and Nico should respond :) > > I like to have just a very simple GUI app for a end user to start a web > server and guide them further by providing an url which should open > next. This url will then open a full website, also with configuration > and admin web apps for more advanced configuration. > > I like Jimmie's proposal and I thought many times already in that > direction. We really need some "neutral" website to add new sites, for > instance. > > But this is already an advanced feature, let we finish this newcomer > guidance first: a simple GUI app just to start website, where url is > listed to guide user to open next. On the web side we need to finish > newcomer friendly configuration, specially the most common one like > changing hostname/ip/port of the default site. > > Best regards > Janko > > > >> 2008/10/28 Jimmie Houchin <[hidden email]>: >>> I just had a thought. >>> >>> What if we simply put an always running AIDA/Scribo admin web page on an >>> uncommon port. This way if the setup is running headless or on another >>> machine an admin page can be always available to start and stop >>> AIDA/Scribo sites and apps as desired. >>> >>> This admin should always be on and running and independent of any other >>> AIDA/Scribo site or app. It should be aware of all AIDA/Scribo sites and >>> apps that are installed or available to be installed and configured. >>> >>> This way the UI is put into skill set of those who use and develop >>> AIDA/Scribo and would also be available to any of the Smalltalks running >>> AIDA/Scribo. It could be built to handle any and all website >>> administration, installation, configuration, etc. functionality the >>> community wants. >>> >>> Just wanted to put that out there. >>> >>> Jimmie >>> >>> >>> >>> Germán Arduino wrote: >>>> Not much time, however I talked something with Nico and he told me >>>> that should be better to avoid using any framework (I was thinking in >>>> use EasyMorphicGUI or even MCTool). >>>> >>>> Then I found some free minutes, and tried to build something with pure >>>> morphic, and I have something like the screen attached. Not work yet, >>>> but is only and idea, to know if may be useful or not. >>>> >>>> Let me know. >>>> >>>> Cheers. >>>> >>>> 2008/10/5 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>: >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> For forthcoming Scribo one-click image to be as easy as possible for >>>>> newcomers and non Smalltalkers we need to build a small GUI app for >>>>> start and stop of Scribo. >>>>> >>>>> Anyone volunteering for that really simple Squeak Morphic app? >>>>> >>>>> I see this app in a small window, with: >>>>> >>>>> 1. Scribo logo at the top >>>>> 2. two buttons: Start, Stop, one is obviously grayed and disabled. >>>>> 3. aidademo running at http://localhost:8888 >>>>> (this line is written from AIDASite data, one line for each >>>>> AIDASite present. See SwazooServer singleton sites) >>>>> 4. class name: ScriboStartup (or osmething like that) >>>>> >>>>> That's it? Isn't really simple :) >>>>> >>>>> Janko >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Aida mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida >>> >> >> >> > > -- > Janko Mivšek > AIDA/Web > Smalltalk Web Application Server > http://www.aidaweb.si > _______________________________________________ > Aida mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida > -- Germán S. Arduino http://www.arsol.biz http://www.arsol.net _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida sc2.jpg (36K) Download Attachment |
Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008 à 15:28 -0200, Germán Arduino a écrit :
> Well, the job is almost finished. > > A pic is attached and the details on my blog > (http://germanarduino.blogspot.com). > > HTH. > Wow, great German! Thank you for this nice addon :) I will include it in the next one click image. Cheers! Nico _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida signature.asc (204 bytes) Download Attachment |
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...and if someone is interested, the scribo console can be downloaded
from Scribo repository: http://scribo.aidaweb.si/repository/ Nico _______________________________________________ Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida signature.asc (204 bytes) Download Attachment |
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Thanks Nico, I'm glad of help!
2008/12/3 nico <[hidden email]>: > Le mercredi 03 décembre 2008 à 15:28 -0200, Germán Arduino a écrit : >> Well, the job is almost finished. >> >> A pic is attached and the details on my blog >> (http://germanarduino.blogspot.com). >> >> HTH. >> > > Wow, great German! > Thank you for this nice addon :) > > I will include it in the next one click image. > > Cheers! > > Nico > > _______________________________________________ > Aida mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida > > Aida mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.aidaweb.si/mailman/listinfo/aida |
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