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A question about the Dark Theme main background color

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2
I know that colours are a matter of taste, but I have a question about the Dark Theme main background color.

Here is a screenshot of my 4.0 image:

Versus the same in 5.0

Note how the background of the contents of windows is much darker, the contrast being very hard.

Was this an intentional change ? 

Does the majority prefer that colour ?

How can I change it back to the softer one ?

Thx,

Sven

BTW: Also note how much less space there is for the real code (yes I use pretty large fonts, but they are the same in both), how much space is lost in decoration around code in Nautilus, how busy it looks ... just my opinion.
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Re: A question about the Dark Theme main background color

EstebanLM
Hi,

> On 03 Mar 2016, at 12:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> I know that colours are a matter of taste, but I have a question about the Dark Theme main background color.
>
> Here is a screenshot of my 4.0 image:
>
> <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 11.55.30.png>
> Versus the same in 5.0
>
> <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 11.55.36.png>
> Note how the background of the contents of windows is much darker, the contrast being very hard.
>
> Was this an intentional change ?

yes, I made it because the older one was worst for the eyes than this one (I largely borrowed from the IntelliJ Dark Theme and colors there are like they are now, not like before).

> Does the majority prefer that colour ?

It is an old (very old change, almost a year now)… at the moment, someones liked it, someones hated it (as always with L&F changes)… so it remained.

>
> How can I change it back to the softer one ?

override Pharo3DarkTheme>>backgroundColor with the color you want… this should be in settings, but I didn’t found the time to implement it (there is an implementation,but it does not works)… maybe if someone wants to revive it we can add it at the beginning of Pharo6.

NOTE: since GT guys have their own theme framework, with their own hardcoded colors, this will most probably do not work all the cases (but it will work for the case you want).

cheers,
Esteban

>
> Thx,
>
> Sven
>
> BTW: Also note how much less space there is for the real code (yes I use pretty large fonts, but they are the same in both), how much space is lost in decoration around code in Nautilus, how busy it looks ... just my opinion.


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Re: A question about the Dark Theme main background color

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2
OK, thanks, I got it.

> On 03 Mar 2016, at 13:33, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On 03 Mar 2016, at 12:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I know that colours are a matter of taste, but I have a question about the Dark Theme main background color.
>>
>> Here is a screenshot of my 4.0 image:
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 11.55.30.png>
>> Versus the same in 5.0
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 11.55.36.png>
>> Note how the background of the contents of windows is much darker, the contrast being very hard.
>>
>> Was this an intentional change ?
>
> yes, I made it because the older one was worst for the eyes than this one (I largely borrowed from the IntelliJ Dark Theme and colors there are like they are now, not like before).
>
>> Does the majority prefer that colour ?
>
> It is an old (very old change, almost a year now)… at the moment, someones liked it, someones hated it (as always with L&F changes)… so it remained.
>
>>
>> How can I change it back to the softer one ?
>
> override Pharo3DarkTheme>>backgroundColor with the color you want… this should be in settings, but I didn’t found the time to implement it (there is an implementation,but it does not works)… maybe if someone wants to revive it we can add it at the beginning of Pharo6.
>
> NOTE: since GT guys have their own theme framework, with their own hardcoded colors, this will most probably do not work all the cases (but it will work for the case you want).
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>
>>
>> Thx,
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> BTW: Also note how much less space there is for the real code (yes I use pretty large fonts, but they are the same in both), how much space is lost in decoration around code in Nautilus, how busy it looks ... just my opinion.


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Re: A question about the Dark Theme main background color

Peter Uhnak
Personally I much prefer the newer darker version, the old looked like I had bad monitor configuration and not enough contrast configured :)

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
OK, thanks, I got it.

> On 03 Mar 2016, at 13:33, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On 03 Mar 2016, at 12:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I know that colours are a matter of taste, but I have a question about the Dark Theme main background color.
>>
>> Here is a screenshot of my 4.0 image:
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 11.55.30.png>
>> Versus the same in 5.0
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 11.55.36.png>
>> Note how the background of the contents of windows is much darker, the contrast being very hard.
>>
>> Was this an intentional change ?
>
> yes, I made it because the older one was worst for the eyes than this one (I largely borrowed from the IntelliJ Dark Theme and colors there are like they are now, not like before).
>
>> Does the majority prefer that colour ?
>
> It is an old (very old change, almost a year now)… at the moment, someones liked it, someones hated it (as always with L&F changes)… so it remained.
>
>>
>> How can I change it back to the softer one ?
>
> override Pharo3DarkTheme>>backgroundColor with the color you want… this should be in settings, but I didn’t found the time to implement it (there is an implementation,but it does not works)… maybe if someone wants to revive it we can add it at the beginning of Pharo6.
>
> NOTE: since GT guys have their own theme framework, with their own hardcoded colors, this will most probably do not work all the cases (but it will work for the case you want).
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>
>>
>> Thx,
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> BTW: Also note how much less space there is for the real code (yes I use pretty large fonts, but they are the same in both), how much space is lost in decoration around code in Nautilus, how busy it looks ... just my opinion.



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Re: A question about the Dark Theme main background color

EstebanLM

On 03 Mar 2016, at 14:12, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:

Personally I much prefer the newer darker version, the old looked like I had bad monitor configuration and not enough contrast configured :)

you see? :)
I also prefer the newer… but I understand some people would like to change it… that’s why we need to revive the settings for themes!

Esteban


On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 1:43 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
OK, thanks, I got it.

> On 03 Mar 2016, at 13:33, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> On 03 Mar 2016, at 12:04, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> I know that colours are a matter of taste, but I have a question about the Dark Theme main background color.
>>
>> Here is a screenshot of my 4.0 image:
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 11.55.30.png>
>> Versus the same in 5.0
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 11.55.36.png>
>> Note how the background of the contents of windows is much darker, the contrast being very hard.
>>
>> Was this an intentional change ?
>
> yes, I made it because the older one was worst for the eyes than this one (I largely borrowed from the IntelliJ Dark Theme and colors there are like they are now, not like before).
>
>> Does the majority prefer that colour ?
>
> It is an old (very old change, almost a year now)… at the moment, someones liked it, someones hated it (as always with L&F changes)… so it remained.
>
>>
>> How can I change it back to the softer one ?
>
> override Pharo3DarkTheme>>backgroundColor with the color you want… this should be in settings, but I didn’t found the time to implement it (there is an implementation,but it does not works)… maybe if someone wants to revive it we can add it at the beginning of Pharo6.
>
> NOTE: since GT guys have their own theme framework, with their own hardcoded colors, this will most probably do not work all the cases (but it will work for the case you want).
>
> cheers,
> Esteban
>
>>
>> Thx,
>>
>> Sven
>>
>> BTW: Also note how much less space there is for the real code (yes I use pretty large fonts, but they are the same in both), how much space is lost in decoration around code in Nautilus, how busy it looks ... just my opinion.




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Re: A question about the Dark Theme main background color

kilon.alios
I also prefer the darker one , though I use my own personal blue theme.
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Re: A question about the Dark Theme main background color

philippe.back@highoctane.be

Darcula for everyone! Even Netbeans has it now!

On Mar 3, 2016 3:02 PM, "kilon.alios" <[hidden email]> wrote:
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> I also prefer the darker one , though I use my own personal blue theme.
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