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hernanmd

A suggestion for Roassal

It would be cool to have a visual catalog for Roassal visualizations. Like a thumbnail viewer. I want to start working in a genome visualization:

http://www.blog.telecomfuturecentre.it/wp-content/uploads/files/2012/09/Mbb-ruminantium-genome-DIAGRAM.jpg

Any hints where to start? Any example to start on?

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Re: A suggestion for Roassal

Hi Hernan,

> http://www.blog.telecomfuturecentre.it/wp-content/uploads/files/2012/09/Mbb-ruminantium-genome-DIAGRAM.jpg
>
> Any hints where to start? Any example to start on?

This is a very specific visualization. So far we do not have any specific support for this. The closest is probably Sunburst. You can have a look at it by trying out the examples (look for the class SunburstExample).

Alexandre

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Re: A suggestion for Roassal

Thanks,
Running Sunburst examples in Pharo 2 & 3 gives red screen of death.
There is a missing method #createPath: used by ROArc. I will take a look tomorrow but ideas are welcomed.

To install Roassal I've evaluated:

	Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile'
        project: 'Roassal';
        package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal';
        load.
	(Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) load

For the visualization is done with Circos. This is the best explanation of Circos drawings (a must-read really) I've found so far:

http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/talks/datavisualization/

Too sad a tool like Circos is written in Perl...

2013/12/31 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>

Hi Hernan,

> http://www.blog.telecomfuturecentre.it/wp-content/uploads/files/2012/09/Mbb-ruminantium-genome-DIAGRAM.jpg
>
> Any hints where to start? Any example to start on?

This is a very specific visualization. So far we do not have any specific support for this. The closest is probably Sunburst. You can have a look at it by trying out the examples (look for the class SunburstExample).

Alexandre

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Offray

Re: A suggestion for Roassal

Hi,

Being a long time lurker on the lists of Moose and Pharo and now a more
active member making my own experiments I'm trying to catch up with the
community memory, so I'm reading the large batch of unread mail (almost
10.000) and found remarks, interesting links and talks and so on. Some
of the are just experiments on the playground to test, some others go to
my zotero subcollection of Pharo/Smalltalk Links[1] and some like this
are just reviving old threads.

[1]
https://www.zotero.org/groups/diseo_y_creacion_phd_msc_universidad_de_caldas/items/collectionKey/IVQ5BUUC

So I have just found this suggestion about Roassal capabilities for
supporting a more Circos like visualization and we have now this planets
alike massive visualizations like the ones in [2] and I wonder, how much
close are we of having circos alike capabilities in Roassal. I think
that the best way of knowing is trying to produce something similar in
both platforms and see how far we can reach on both of them.

[2] https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile/posts/745311142222152

I have some ideas of visualizations that I would like to make with
Pharo/Moose/Roassal (I don't know how to call this combination), but I
just want to revive this thread to know if there are any progress in
this front and to warm up further conversations on this kind of data
visualization/narratives.

Cheers,

Offray

El 31/12/13 a las 18:16, Hernán Morales Durand escribió:

> Thanks,
> Running Sunburst examples in Pharo 2 & 3 gives red screen of death.
> There is a missing method #createPath: used by ROArc. I will take a look
> tomorrow but ideas are welcomed.
> To install Roassal I've evaluated:
>
> Gofer new smalltalkhubUser: 'ObjectProfile'
> project: 'Roassal';
> package: 'ConfigurationOfRoassal';
> load.
> (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfRoassal) load
>
>
> For the visualization is done with Circos. This is the best explanation of
> Circos drawings (a must-read really) I've found so far:
>
> http://mkweb.bcgsc.ca/talks/datavisualization/
>
> Too sad a tool like Circos is written in Perl...
>
>
>
> 2013/12/31 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]
> <mailto:[hidden email]>>
>
> Hi Hernan,
>
> >
> http://www.blog.telecomfuturecentre.it/wp-content/uploads/files/2012/09/Mbb-ruminantium-genome-DIAGRAM.jpg
> >
> > Any hints where to start? Any example to start on?
>
> This is a very specific visualization. So far we do not have any specific
> support for this. The closest is probably Sunburst. You can have a look at
> it by trying out the examples (look for the class SunburstExample).
>
> Alexandre
>
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Re: A suggestion for Roassal

> So I have just found this suggestion about Roassal capabilities for supporting a more Circos like visualization and we have now this planets alike massive visualizations like the ones in [2] and I wonder, how much close are we of having circos alike capabilities in Roassal. I think that the best way of knowing is trying to produce something similar in both platforms and see how far we can reach on both of them.
>
> [2] https://www.facebook.com/ObjectProfile/posts/745311142222152

Let us know how we can help. Indeed, having something like Circos would be fantastic. Something important that you play a big role, is having a scenario or an example on which we can base our effort.

> I have some ideas of visualizations that I would like to make with Pharo/Moose/Roassal (I don't know how to call this combination), but I just want to revive this thread to know if there are any progress in this front and to warm up further conversations on this kind of data visualization/narratives.

Simply call it Moose :-)

Alexandre

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