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Marcus Denker-4

[ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip

Marcus

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Marcus Denker-4

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:

>
> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip
>

.. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow
the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1 was build just once, too.
So we can continue to build the perfect fully automatic process for 1.3...

Next:
-> Make a one-click.
-> Make a cog one-click.
-> push all open reports in the tracker to 1.2.2

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INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Tudor Girba

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

Excellent!

>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip
>>
>
>
> .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow
> the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1 was build just once, too.

Exactly.

> So we can continue to build the perfect fully automatic process for 1.3...
>
> Next:
> -> Make a one-click.
> -> Make a cog one-click.
> -> push all open reports in the tracker to 1.2.2

Why still work on 1.2.2. Why not moving them to 1.3?

Cheers,
Doru

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hilaire

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Marcus Denker-4

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

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On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:

> Excellent!
>
>>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip
>>>
>>
>>
>> .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow
>> the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1 was build just once, too.
>
> Exactly.
>
>> So we can continue to build the perfect fully automatic process for 1.3...
>>
>> Next:
>> -> Make a one-click.
>> -> Make a cog one-click.
>> -> push all open reports in the tracker to 1.2.2
>
> Why still work on 1.2.2. Why not moving them to 1.3?
>

Yes, you are right...

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Lukas Renggli

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

A pity that broken OB code is used, nevertheless it is quite usable.

Lukas

On 3 April 2011 09:58, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

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> On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Excellent!
>>
>>>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow
>>> the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1 was build just once, too.
>>
>> Exactly.
>>
>>> So we can continue to build the perfect fully automatic process for 1.3...
>>>
>>> Next:
>>> -> Make a one-click.
>>> -> Make a cog one-click.
>>> -> push all open reports in the tracker to 1.2.2
>>
>> Why still work on 1.2.2. Why not moving them to 1.3?
>>
> Yes, you are right...
>
>
>
> --
> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
>
>
>

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Lukas Renggli
www.lukas-renggli.ch

Marcus Denker-4

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

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On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote:

> A pity that broken OB code is used, nevertheless it is quite usable.
>

Yes, and I added a bug report on March 22:

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3842

But nobody cared to react. So how important can it be?

There are two possibilities:

-> Postponing the release because it's not perfect.
(We are doing this for *3 Months* already)

-> Not release and wait another 3 Months.

Marcus

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Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

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tx!
and yes we should continue

On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:

>
> On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
>>
>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip
>>
>
>
> .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow
> the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1 was build just once, too.
> So we can continue to build the perfect fully automatic process for 1.3...
>
> Next:
> -> Make a one-click.
> -> Make a cog one-click.
> -> push all open reports in the tracker to 1.2.2
>
>
> --
> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
>
>

Tudor Girba

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

Hi,

The Moose build uses 1.2.1 now:
http://hudson.moosetechnology.org/job/moose-latest-dev/

Cheers,
Doru

On 3 Apr 2011, at 10:45, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> tx!
> and yes we should continue
>
> On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:35 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip
>>>
>>
>>
>> .. the all green image of today from Hudson. Yes, this is not repeatable and tomorrow
>> the hudson one might be different. But we need to move on. 1.1 was build just once, too.
>> So we can continue to build the perfect fully automatic process for 1.3...
>>
>> Next:
>> -> Make a one-click.
>> -> Make a cog one-click.
>> -> push all open reports in the tracker to 1.2.2
>>
>>
>> --
>> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
>> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
>>
>>
>
>

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the problem in a way that makes the solution obvious."

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Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

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On 3 April 2011 10:28, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

:)

One good feature i found on drupal site, that its automatically
closing the issues
if there is no activity after two weeks. Closed with label
"unresolved" or "unattended" ..
but the idea is that if nobody cared to fix it, then its not so
important.. and there's always a way to reopen an issue later.

> There are two possibilities:
>
> -> Postponing the release because it's not perfect.
> (We are doing this for *3 Months* already)
>
> -> Not release and wait another 3 Months.
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
> --
> Marcus Denker -- http://www.marcusdenker.de
> INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.
>
>
>

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Best regards,
Igor Stasenko AKA sig.

Sven Van Caekenberghe

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

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On 03 Apr 2011, at 09:35, Marcus Denker wrote:

> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip
>
>
> Marcus

Marcus et al,

I have to agree with Laurent: you and the rest of Pharo are being way too modest here. Like most users I have been waiting for 1.2.x to be announced with a big splash. I know and understand how it has been a long and boring process at the end.

Like you said, a release is just a release: a group of developers deciding that the current state of the system is 'good enough'. I have been using a #12333 hudson/jenkins built Seaside 3.0.3 image for more than a month for development and server deployment and it has been a very nice experience (in other words, it worked perfectly).

So, from my part: thank you for all the efforts, the results are fantastic!

So please, organize some kind of splash!

Regards,

Sven

SergeStinckwich

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On 03 Apr 2011, at 09:35, Marcus Denker wrote:
>
>> https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/download.php/28435/Pharo-1.2.1-11.04.03.zip
>>
>>
>> Marcus
>
> Marcus et al,
>
> I have to agree with Laurent: you and the rest of Pharo are being way too modest here. Like most users I have been waiting for 1.2.x to be announced with a big splash. I know and understand how it has been a long and boring process at the end.
>
> Like you said, a release is just a release: a group of developers deciding that the current state of the system is 'good enough'. I have been using a #12333 hudson/jenkins built Seaside 3.0.3 image for more than a month for development and server deployment and it has been a very nice experience (in other words, it worked perfectly).
>
> So, from my part: thank you for all the efforts, the results are fantastic!
>
> So please, organize some kind of splash!

+1

Yes i agree, we need to release Pharo 1.2.
This is not perfect but this is usuable without too much problems.
The next release will be better ;-)

A big applause for the Pharo core team !!!
--
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http://doesnotunderstand.org/

Hannes Hirzel

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

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On 4/4/11, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:

+1.
It was just the download link.
I would have expected some 'release notes'.

I'm glad to download it and the moose-dev image which builds on it.

--Hannes

Hannes Hirzel

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

In reply to this post by Marcus Denker-4

On 4/3/11, Marcus Denker <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Apr 3, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote:
>
>> A pity that broken OB code is used, nevertheless it is quite usable.
>>
>
> Yes, and I added a bug report on March 22:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=3842
>
> But nobody cared to react. So how important can it be?
>
> There are two possibilities:
>
> -> Postponing the release because it's not perfect.
> (We are doing this for *3 Months* already)
>
> -> Not release and wait another 3 Months.
>
>
> Marcus

There are _three_ possibilities:

-> Postponing the release because it's not perfect.
(We are doing this for *3 Months* already)

-> Not release and wait another 3 Months.

-> Mark the issues which are not resolved as 'Known bug', post
this list some time before the release and ask people if they do not
have objections. Take silence for agreement and then include the
'Known bug list' in the release announcement.

--Hannes

Stéphane Ducasse

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

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Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization.

>>
> Marcus et al,
>
> I have to agree with Laurent: you and the rest of Pharo are being way too modest here. Like most users I have been waiting for 1.2.x to be announced with a big splash. I know and understand how it has been a long and boring process at the end.
>
> Like you said, a release is just a release: a group of developers deciding that the current state of the system is 'good enough'. I have been using a #12333 hudson/jenkins built Seaside 3.0.3 image for more than a month for development and server deployment and it has been a very nice experience (in other words, it worked perfectly).
>
> So, from my part: thank you for all the efforts, the results are fantastic!
>
> So please, organize some kind of splash!
>
> Regards,
>
> Sven
>
>
>
>

Sven Van Caekenberghe

Re: [SPAM] Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization.

So we poor users have to do all the work ??

Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ?

From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights.

Maybe we could also run metrics on both if that would yield something useful ?

Sven

Marcus Denker-4

Re: [SPAM] Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

In reply to this post by Stéphane Ducasse

On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:

>
> On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
>> Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization.
>
> So we poor users have to do all the work ??
>
> Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ?
>
> From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights.
>

Mariano started a list:

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo

All things done should have a tracker entry:

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=milestone=1.2
http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=Milestone%3D1.2-DevImage

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INRIA Lille -- Nord Europe. Team RMoD.

Sven Van Caekenberghe

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

On 04 Apr 2011, at 16:19, Marcus Denker wrote:

> On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
>>
>> On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization.
>>
>> So we poor users have to do all the work ??
>>
>> Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ?
>>
>> From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights.
>>
>
> Mariano started a list:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo
>
> All things done should have a tracker entry:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=milestone=1.2
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=Milestone%3D1.2-DevImage

OK, I will start reading through these lists and compare with what was written about the previous releases and see if I can come up with something by tomorrow.

Sven

laurent laffont

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 04 Apr 2011, at 16:19, Marcus Denker wrote:

> On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
>>
>> On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization.
>>
>> So we poor users have to do all the work ??
>>
>> Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ?
>>
>> From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights.
>>
>
> Mariano started a list:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo
>
> All things done should have a tracker entry:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=milestone=1.2
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=Milestone%3D1.2-DevImage

OK, I will start reading through these lists and compare with what was written about the previous releases and see if I can come up with something by tomorrow.

I will translate for the French announcement.

Laurent.

Sven

Mariano Martinez Peck

Re: [ANN 1.2] 1.2.1 Full Release Image

I started to try to release 1.2. Not only I did the list of changes but also:

1) I asked if people still wanted the background: http://forum.world.st/Do-you-want-to-add-the-background-picture-to-the-image-like-we-did-with-Pharo-1-1-td3350726.html#a3355332
results: negative. So, no backgrund. White as it is now.

2) I asked what people wanted that used to be in 1.1: http://forum.world.st/Do-we-want-this-for-Pharo-1-2-and-futures-td3350721.html
guess how many replies? TWO.
results: I would only nclude the installScript. I guess that Hudson could do that very easy, doesn't it ? marcus ?

3) I wrote down the pending lists: http://forum.world.st/Last-pending-things-for-Pharo-1-2-tp3350731p3350731.html

Sorry, I cannot do more.

Cheers

Mariano

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:33 PM, laurent laffont <[hidden email]> wrote:

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:

On 04 Apr 2011, at 16:19, Marcus Denker wrote:

> On Apr 4, 2011, at 4:09 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
>
>>
>> On 04 Apr 2011, at 15:40, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> Please help because we have not the steam for the splash organization.
>>
>> So we poor users have to do all the work ??
>>
>> Seriously, what is the easiest/fastest way to get to a rough list of the changes between 1.1.1 and 1.2.1 ?
>>
>> From that list we could try to make a readable list for release notes and then we could try to make a list of bullet points / highlights.
>>
>
> Mariano started a list:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/ActionsInPharoOneDotTwo
>
> All things done should have a tracker entry:
>
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=milestone=1.2
> http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/list?can=1&q=Milestone%3D1.2-DevImage

OK, I will start reading through these lists and compare with what was written about the previous releases and see if I can come up with something by tomorrow.

I will translate for the French announcement.

Laurent.

Sven

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Mariano
http://marianopeck.wordpress.com