[ANN] Algernon now available in Pharo
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Hi,
I uploaded a new version of Algernon, now working with Pharo. The changes I introduced were: -changed the updating system: now it is automatic, but just when Algernon is shown (this will make a little bit slower the showing of Algernon, but preserves you from need to press cmd+r to refresh the system -who after all, everybody I know does every time-). -using #beginsWith: instead deprecated #startsWith: -using #fileOutCategory: instead non-existing #fileOutCategory:asHtml: You will need latest changes of Pharo (Stef fix to TextMorph), and execute this script to have Algernon on your system: ScriptLoader new installingUniverse. "In case you don't have already Universes installed" Installer universe addPackage: 'Algernon'; answer: '*' with: false; install. Installer ss project: 'Algernon'; install: 'Algernon'. Installer wiresong project: 'ob'; install: 'OB-Algernon'. Algernon open. Cheers, Esteban _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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EXCELLENT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No more excuses to use Squeak hahaha I love Algernon. My vote: 9999 x 10^ 9999 to be in Pharo Please, give a try. AND read the README. We are not use to do that, but it is very useful!!! Best, Mariano On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2009/7/15 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>:
> 9999 x 10^ 9999 to be in Pharo Could other people give their opinion too? -- Damien Cassou http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them popular by not having them." James Iry _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email]> wrote: 2009/7/15 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: Yes please. Give it a try. It very simple to install and very very very useful.
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Algernon looks promising.
Here some feedback - Category actions are only fileOut and printOut, which I never use, so all those category entries are useless to me - "Press right arrow to drill into a class or category" does not work (right arrow makes the list go away but nothing else is shown) - how do I search for a method? Entering a selector does not show any result. - is there a way to search for senders, implementors, and class references? - I would show the result of expressions evaluated with = not in the transcript but in the Algernon panel (often I don't have a transcript open and then I can just as easily open a workspace doing the same there). A history of previous expressions could be helpful too. HTH, Adrian On Jul 18, 2009, at 20:59 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email] > >wrote: > >> 2009/7/15 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >>> 9999 x 10^ 9999 to be in Pharo >> >> Could other people give their opinion too? > > > Yes please. Give it a try. It very simple to install and very very > very > useful. > > >> >> >> -- >> Damien Cassou >> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >> >> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >> popular by not having them." James Iry >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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My main source of dissatisfaction with Algernon is the memory footprint.
But one i had tried, was maybe a half-year ago .. does that changed somehow? 2009/7/22 Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]>: > Algernon looks promising. > > Here some feedback > - Category actions are only fileOut and printOut, which I never use, > so all those category entries are useless to me > - "Press right arrow to drill into a class or category" does not work > (right arrow makes the list go away but nothing else is shown) > - how do I search for a method? Entering a selector does not show any > result. > - is there a way to search for senders, implementors, and class > references? > - I would show the result of expressions evaluated with = not in the > transcript but in the Algernon panel (often I don't have a transcript > open and then I can just as easily open a workspace doing the same > there). A history of previous expressions could be helpful too. > > HTH, > Adrian > > On Jul 18, 2009, at 20:59 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Damien Cassou <[hidden email] >> >wrote: >> >>> 2009/7/15 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>: >>>> 9999 x 10^ 9999 to be in Pharo >>> >>> Could other people give their opinion too? >> >> >> Yes please. Give it a try. It very simple to install and very very >> very >> useful. >> >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 2009-07-22 03:58:17 -0300, Adrian Lienhard
<[hidden email]> said: > Algernon looks promising. > > Here some feedback > - Category actions are only fileOut and printOut, which I never use, > so all those category entries are useless to me > - "Press right arrow to drill into a class or category" does not work > (right arrow makes the list go away but nothing else is shown) Yes, that's useless for me too, but that's the "original design", it is usefull for look at the classes inside a category: the right arrow goes inside the category but you need to start typing to show something. That can be changed, but right now I just ported actual Algernon to pharo, not change it's behavior :) > - how do I search for a method? Entering a selector does not show any > result. Same as with categories, you can search a method inside a class, not globally. > - is there a way to search for senders, implementors, and class > references? not that I know > - I would show the result of expressions evaluated with = not in the > transcript but in the Algernon panel (often I don't have a transcript > open and then I can just as easily open a workspace doing the same > there). A history of previous expressions could be helpful too. If there is interest, I can work on improve Algernon with some of this features... but I need to spare the time :) > > HTH, > Adrian > > On Jul 18, 2009, at 20:59 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Damien Cassou >> <[hidden email] >>> wrote: >> >>> 2009/7/15 Mariano Martinez Peck >>> <[hidden email]>: >>>> 9999 x 10^ 9999 to be in Pharo >>> >>> Could other people give their opinion too? >> >> >> Yes please. Give it a try. It very simple to install and very very >> very >> useful. >> >> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Damien Cassou >>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>> >>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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It stills eats about 4-5M while running... I don't think it can be
changed easily but I can investigate a little. On 2009-07-22 04:18:31 -0300, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> said: > My main source of dissatisfaction with Algernon is the memory footprint. > But one i had tried, was maybe a half-year ago .. does that changed somehow? > > > 2009/7/22 Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]>: >> Algernon looks promising. >> >> Here some feedback >> - Category actions are only fileOut and printOut, which I never use, >> so all those category entries are useless to me >> - "Press right arrow to drill into a class or category" does not work >> (right arrow makes the list go away but nothing else is shown) >> - how do I search for a method? Entering a selector does not show any >> result. >> - is there a way to search for senders, implementors, and class >> references? >> - I would show the result of expressions evaluated with = not in the >> transcript but in the Algernon panel (often I don't have a transcript >> open and then I can just as easily open a workspace doing the same >> there). A history of previous expressions could be helpful too. >> >> HTH, >> Adrian >> >> On Jul 18, 2009, at 20:59 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Damien Cassou >>> <[hidden email] >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> 2009/7/15 Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> <[hidden email]>: >>>>> 9999 x 10^ 9999 to be in Pharo >>>> >>>> Could other people give their opinion too? >>> >>> >>> Yes please. Give it a try. It very simple to install and very very >>> very >>> useful. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Damien Cassou >>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>>> >>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >>>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Thanks for the clarifications.
I think it just needs some usability improvements and then it can beæ really helpful. Adrian On Jul 22, 2009, at 13:32 , Esteban Lorenzano wrote: > On 2009-07-22 03:58:17 -0300, Adrian Lienhard > <[hidden email]> said: > >> Algernon looks promising. >> >> Here some feedback >> - Category actions are only fileOut and printOut, which I never use, >> so all those category entries are useless to me >> - "Press right arrow to drill into a class or category" does not work >> (right arrow makes the list go away but nothing else is shown) > > > Yes, that's useless for me too, but that's the "original design", it > is > usefull for look at the classes inside a category: the right arrow > goes > inside the category but you need to start typing to show something. > That can be changed, but right now I just ported actual Algernon to > pharo, not change it's behavior :) > >> - how do I search for a method? Entering a selector does not show any >> result. > > Same as with categories, you can search a method inside a class, not > globally. > >> - is there a way to search for senders, implementors, and class >> references? > > not that I know > >> - I would show the result of expressions evaluated with = not in the >> transcript but in the Algernon panel (often I don't have a transcript >> open and then I can just as easily open a workspace doing the same >> there). A history of previous expressions could be helpful too. > > If there is interest, I can work on improve Algernon with some of this > features... but I need to spare the time :) > >> >> HTH, >> Adrian >> >> On Jul 18, 2009, at 20:59 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 6:52 PM, Damien Cassou >>> <[hidden email] >>>> wrote: >>> >>>> 2009/7/15 Mariano Martinez Peck >>>> <[hidden email]>: >>>>> 9999 x 10^ 9999 to be in Pharo >>>> >>>> Could other people give their opinion too? >>> >>> >>> Yes please. Give it a try. It very simple to install and very very >>> very >>> useful. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Damien Cassou >>>> http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st >>>> >>>> "Lambdas are relegated to relative obscurity until Java makes them >>>> popular by not having them." James Iry >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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