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Herby is entitled to his opinions. And open minded, as in letting people going their own way. And he is a damn good coder. It is perfectly understandable that one takes a stand against agendas put onto a platform I would consider neutral. Which it isn't actually. Amber-lang is a small community. And I learned about a truckload of new options with this thread! Phil > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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Mir S. wrote: > I can pay for the private hosting if needed, already running a couple of VMs on Digitalocean and the cost is not that high. I have this server as a courtesy of a friend who happened to get a good connection for decent price and who just want his machine(s) to be utilized, for free (I should sometimes cover at least part of the electricity bill; and I just paid for 8GB -> 16GB upgrade). And he is committed to continue with it. Moving to other place should it be needed is just one change of CNAME field in DNS. > Pe 21 mar. 2016, la 18:08, Martin Bähr<[hidden email]> a scris: > >> Excerpts from Nicolas Petton's message of 2016-03-21 13:21:11 +0100: >>> The way I see it, we have 2 options: >>> 1. You step down as maintainer, and we can try to find a new one >>> 2. We move Amber to another git hosting >>> >>>> I have my personal fork of Amber self-hosted at >>>> http://lolg.it/amber/amber.git, so maybe I will continue development if >>>> I find time for it, but will likely need to change the name (to be able >>>> to use bower/npm with it). >>> Even if you're completely entitled to fork Amber, I would rather not >>> have the community split. >> agreed. unless trying to find a new maintainer is one of the goals of this >> move, the community should follow the hosting choices of the maintainer. >> >> it would be rather odd to fork the project just because of the choice of >> hosting. >> >> personally i applaud any move that strengthens alternatives to github. >> >> private hosting is fine, though i'd like to ask if gitlab would be a suitable >> alternative? >> >> apart from that, would there be any objection to heep the github repo running >> as a mirror if that is desired? >> >> greetings, martin. >> >> -- >> eKita - the online platform for your entire academic life >> -- >> chief engineer eKita.co >> pike programmer pike.lysator.liu.se caudium.net societyserver.org >> secretary beijinglug.org >> mentor fossasia.org >> foresight developer foresightlinux.org realss.com >> unix sysadmin >> Martin Bähr working in china http://societyserver.org/mbaehr/ >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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Mir S. wrote: > There's also this hybrid solution I love lately. Based on the Bit > Torrent protocol by the company with the same name. It allows for > decentralized syncing via p2p. I use it as a great backup/mirror > solution across multiple OSs. You can share > something R, RW or owner (the pro version(one time payment) lets you > manage these permissions on the fly) and each machine archives changed > files for as many days as you want. It's encrypted etc etc > > In conjunction with Git you get a very powerful transparent > sync+versioning approach that is hard to match. > > https://www.getsync.com My main problems are not getting vendor-locked to any provider (including cloud HW provider, if possible), as they may push policies that are nothing to do with technical point, but more with ideology. Which is why I left Github and not going to use any of other free contenders, namely bitbucket, gitlab cloud, and assembla. > Pe 22 mar. 2016, la 08:58, Mir S. <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> a scris: > >> What about Beanstalk? >> >> Pe 21 mar. 2016, la 14:43, 'Manfred Kröhnert' via amber-lang >> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> a >> scris: >> >>> Hello Herby, >>> >>> first of all, thank you very much for the excellent work you did so >>> far for Amber. >>> >>> The main problem I see with moving Amber is the visibility which is >>> not really given if we move to a platform smaller than GitHub, >>> GitLab, or BitBucket. >>> But neither of those are an option for you, as you wrote in your blog >>> entry. >>> >>> I hope we can work this out somehow. >>> >>> Best, >>> Manfred >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Herby Vojčík <[hidden email] >>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello! >>> >>> I have strong personal reasons for leaving github completely, >>> deleting my account, which I will likely do this Friday. >>> >>> As a consequence, I would not be able to continue contributing, >>> and ultimately, maintaining Amber project. In the meantime, >>> Owners group contains Nicolas Petton and Manfred Kröhnert, which >>> are both busy, but can appoint another person to coordination if >>> you find one. >>> >>> I have my personal fork of Amber self-hosted at >>> http://lolg.it/amber/amber.git, so maybe I will continue >>> development if I find time for it, but will likely need to change >>> the name (to be able to use bower/npm with it). >>> >>> Thanks for understanding, >>> >>> Herby >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> Google Groups "amber-lang" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [hidden email] >>> <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "amber-lang" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [hidden email] >>> <mailto:[hidden email]>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "amber-lang" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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Mir S. wrote: > What about Beanstalk? I wanted free service. So there is no entry barrier for collaborators. > Pe 21 mar. 2016, la 14:43, 'Manfred Kröhnert' via amber-lang > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> a scris: > >> Hello Herby, >> >> first of all, thank you very much for the excellent work you did so >> far for Amber. >> >> The main problem I see with moving Amber is the visibility which is >> not really given if we move to a platform smaller than GitHub, GitLab, >> or BitBucket. >> But neither of those are an option for you, as you wrote in your blog >> entry. >> >> I hope we can work this out somehow. >> >> Best, >> Manfred >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Herby Vojčík <[hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: >> >> Hello! >> >> I have strong personal reasons for leaving github completely, >> deleting my account, which I will likely do this Friday. >> >> As a consequence, I would not be able to continue contributing, >> and ultimately, maintaining Amber project. In the meantime, Owners >> group contains Nicolas Petton and Manfred Kröhnert, which are both >> busy, but can appoint another person to coordination if you find one. >> >> I have my personal fork of Amber self-hosted at >> http://lolg.it/amber/amber.git, so maybe I will continue >> development if I find time for it, but will likely need to change >> the name (to be able to use bower/npm with it). >> >> Thanks for understanding, >> >> Herby >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "amber-lang" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [hidden email] >> <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "amber-lang" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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So you are thinking about their 'Users' limit 5 - 20 - 40 - 100 - 200 people.
So Users should be unlimited. Ok. Pe 22 mar. 2016, la 12:48, Herby Vojčík <[hidden email]> a scris: > > > Mir S. wrote: >> What about Beanstalk? > > I wanted free service. So there is no entry barrier for collaborators. > >> Pe 21 mar. 2016, la 14:43, 'Manfred Kröhnert' via amber-lang >> <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> a scris: >> >>> Hello Herby, >>> >>> first of all, thank you very much for the excellent work you did so >>> far for Amber. >>> >>> The main problem I see with moving Amber is the visibility which is >>> not really given if we move to a platform smaller than GitHub, GitLab, >>> or BitBucket. >>> But neither of those are an option for you, as you wrote in your blog >>> entry. >>> >>> I hope we can work this out somehow. >>> >>> Best, >>> Manfred >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Herby Vojčík <[hidden email] >>> <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello! >>> >>> I have strong personal reasons for leaving github completely, >>> deleting my account, which I will likely do this Friday. >>> >>> As a consequence, I would not be able to continue contributing, >>> and ultimately, maintaining Amber project. In the meantime, Owners >>> group contains Nicolas Petton and Manfred Kröhnert, which are both >>> busy, but can appoint another person to coordination if you find one. >>> >>> I have my personal fork of Amber self-hosted at >>> http://lolg.it/amber/amber.git, so maybe I will continue >>> development if I find time for it, but will likely need to change >>> the name (to be able to use bower/npm with it). >>> >>> Thanks for understanding, >>> >>> Herby >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "amber-lang" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [hidden email] >>> <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "amber-lang" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [hidden email] >>> <mailto:[hidden email]>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "amber-lang" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [hidden email] >> <mailto:[hidden email]>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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On 3/22/16, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On Mar 22, 2016 10:37 AM, "paul" <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Perhaps it would be better to look for another maintainer. >> Every time I think of Herbys opinons I get the bad feeling he maybe has > when he thinks of our modern world achievements. >> Open mindedness is at least for me the main requirement to work with > someone. > > Herby is entitled to his opinions. > > And open minded, as in letting people going their own way. > > And he is a damn good coder. > > It is perfectly understandable that one takes a stand against agendas put > onto a platform I would consider neutral. Which it isn't actually. > > Amber-lang is a small community. > Let's focus on making this code work and improve it. +1 On the other side Amber is useful as is as of now. I am fine, if the code is moved to another place. An opportunity to start with a new version number (0.2.0?, after a final snapshot release on github) and rebuild the documentation and the issues list from scratch (copy /adapt only currently relevant parts). The future platform does not necessarily have to be free. Maybe there are solutions which make documentation easier. > And I learned about a truckload of new options with this thread! > > Phil > > >> >> >> >> >> Am Montag, 21. März 2016 12:55:42 UTC+1 schrieb Herby: >>> >>> Hello! >>> >>> I have strong personal reasons for leaving github completely, deleting >>> my account, which I will likely do this Friday. >>> >>> As a consequence, I would not be able to continue contributing, and >>> ultimately, maintaining Amber project. In the meantime, Owners group >>> contains Nicolas Petton and Manfred Kröhnert, which are both busy, but >>> can appoint another person to coordination if you find one. >>> >>> I have my personal fork of Amber self-hosted at >>> http://lolg.it/amber/amber.git, so maybe I will continue development if >>> I find time for it, but will likely need to change the name (to be able >>> to use bower/npm with it). >>> >>> Thanks for understanding, >>> >>> Herby >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "amber-lang" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [hidden email]. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [hidden email]. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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FWIW, npm seems to be as bad... Phil On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:10 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: On 3/22/16, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote: You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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[hidden email] wrote: > FWIW, npm seems to be as bad... > > https://medium.com/@azerbike/i-ve-just-liberated-my-modules-9045c06be67c#.kwo5qhln4 > > Phil Citing from https://docs.npmjs.com/misc/scope: Scopes can be associated with a separate registry. This allows you to seamlessly use a mix of packages from the public npm registry and one or more private registries, such as npm Enterprise. So, setting up own registry and kindly ask users of your module to slightly rename the dependency should do the trick (of course, npm itself is free to ditch scoped modules; OTOH, npm is open-source *evilgrin* ). Herby > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:10 AM, H. Hirzel <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > On 3/22/16, [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]> <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > On Mar 22, 2016 10:37 AM, "paul" <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps it would be better to look for another maintainer. > >> Every time I think of Herbys opinons I get the bad feeling he > maybe has > > when he thinks of our modern world achievements. > >> Open mindedness is at least for me the main requirement to work with > > someone. > > > > Herby is entitled to his opinions. > > > > And open minded, as in letting people going their own way. > > > > And he is a damn good coder. > > > > It is perfectly understandable that one takes a stand against > agendas put > > onto a platform I would consider neutral. Which it isn't actually. > > > > Amber-lang is a small community. > > Let's focus on making this code work and improve it. > > +1 > > On the other side Amber is useful as is as of now. > > I am fine, if the code is moved to another place. An opportunity to > start with a new version number (0.2.0?, after a final snapshot > release on github) and rebuild the documentation and the issues list > from scratch (copy /adapt only currently relevant parts). The future > platform does not necessarily have to be free. Maybe there are > solutions which make documentation easier. > > > And I learned about a truckload of new options with this thread! > > > > Phil > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Am Montag, 21. März 2016 12:55:42 UTC+1 schrieb Herby: > >>> > >>> Hello! > >>> > >>> I have strong personal reasons for leaving github completely, > deleting > >>> my account, which I will likely do this Friday. > >>> > >>> As a consequence, I would not be able to continue contributing, and > >>> ultimately, maintaining Amber project. In the meantime, Owners > group > >>> contains Nicolas Petton and Manfred Kröhnert, which are both > busy, but > >>> can appoint another person to coordination if you find one. > >>> > >>> I have my personal fork of Amber self-hosted at > >>> http://lolg.it/amber/amber.git, so maybe I will continue > development if > >>> I find time for it, but will likely need to change the name (to > be able > >>> to use bower/npm with it). > >>> > >>> Thanks for understanding, > >>> > >>> Herby > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups > > "amber-lang" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send an > > email to [hidden email] > <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "amber-lang" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an > > email to [hidden email] > <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to [hidden email] > <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:34 AM, [hidden email] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Since there are usually two sides in a conflict, here is NPM's version: This is not a post for or against one of the sides. But it should be read as to not make up ones mind solely based on one side of the story. Best, Manfred
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And still NPM actions don't seem any less horrible. We live in 2016 and we still discussing name conflicts. Seriously ? I mean seriously ?
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On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote: And still NPM actions don't seem any less horrible. We live in 2016 and we still discussing name conflicts. Seriously ? I mean seriously ? Not sure what you intend to say. Since you are a lawyer, I think you know that name and trademark conflicts is field where a huge number of lawyers are employed and involved with. Best, Manfred
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Not my area of expertise , I specialize on Shipping/Maritime law and I was not talking about the legal aspect of it , I was talking about the coding aspect of it. And Law has to deal with a lot of mess created by human beings, does not mean just because we make money out of this, we lawyers approve it. Do you approve all the code , coders are involved with ? I assume from the fact you want to leave Github, obviously not ;) On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 8:57 PM 'Manfred Kröhnert' via amber-lang <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Dimitris Chloupis wrote: > Not my area of expertise , I specialize on Shipping/Maritime law and I > was not talking about the legal aspect of it , I was talking about the > coding aspect of it. And Law has to deal with a lot of mess created by > human beings, does not mean just because we make money out of this, we > lawyers approve it. > > Do you approve all the code , coders are involved with ? I assume from > the fact you want to leave Github, obviously not ;) _I_ am going to leave Github, not Manfred. Herby > On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 8:57 PM 'Manfred Kröhnert' via amber-lang > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Dimitris Chloupis > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > And still NPM actions don't seem any less horrible. We live in > 2016 and we still discussing name conflicts. Seriously ? I mean > seriously ? > > > > Not sure what you intend to say. > Since you are a lawyer, I think you know that name and trademark > conflicts is field where a huge number of lawyers are employed and > involved with. > > Best, > Manfred > > On Fri, 25 Mar 2016 at 00:09, 'Manfred Kröhnert' via amber-lang > <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:34 AM, [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]> <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > FWIW, npm seems to be as bad... > > https://medium.com/@azerbike/i-ve-just-liberated-my-modules-9045c06be67c#.kwo5qhln4 > > > > Since there are usually two sides in a conflict, here is > NPM's version: > > http://blog.npmjs.org/post/141577284765/kik-left-pad-and-npm > > This is not a post for or against one of the sides. > But it should be read as to not make up ones mind solely > based on one side of the story. > > Best, > Manfred > > Phil > > On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 10:10 AM, H. Hirzel > <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > On 3/22/16, [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]> > <[hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>> wrote: > > On Mar 22, 2016 10:37 AM, "paul" > <[hidden email] <mailto:[hidden email]>> > wrote: > >> > >> Perhaps it would be better to look for another > maintainer. > >> Every time I think of Herbys opinons I get the > bad feeling he maybe has > > when he thinks of our modern world achievements. > >> Open mindedness is at least for me the main > requirement to work with > > someone. > > > > Herby is entitled to his opinions. > > > > And open minded, as in letting people going their > own way. > > > > And he is a damn good coder. > > > > It is perfectly understandable that one takes a > stand against agendas put > > onto a platform I would consider neutral. Which > it isn't actually. > > > > Amber-lang is a small community. > > Let's focus on making this code work and improve it. > > +1 > > On the other side Amber is useful as is as of now. > > I am fine, if the code is moved to another place. An > opportunity to > start with a new version number (0.2.0?, after a > final snapshot > release on github) and rebuild the documentation and > the issues list > from scratch (copy /adapt only currently relevant > parts). The future > platform does not necessarily have to be free. Maybe > there are > solutions which make documentation easier. > > > And I learned about a truckload of new options > with this thread! > > > > Phil > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Am Montag, 21. März 2016 12:55:42 UTC+1 schrieb > Herby: > >>> > >>> Hello! > >>> > >>> I have strong personal reasons for leaving > github completely, deleting > >>> my account, which I will likely do this Friday. > >>> > >>> As a consequence, I would not be able to > continue contributing, and > >>> ultimately, maintaining Amber project. In the > meantime, Owners group > >>> contains Nicolas Petton and Manfred Kröhnert, > which are both busy, but > >>> can appoint another person to coordination if > you find one. > >>> > >>> I have my personal fork of Amber self-hosted at > >>> http://lolg.it/amber/amber.git, so maybe I will > continue development if > >>> I find time for it, but will likely need to > change the name (to be able > >>> to use bower/npm with it). > >>> > >>> Thanks for understanding, > >>> > >>> Herby > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are > subscribed to the Google Groups > > "amber-lang" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop > receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [hidden email] > <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. > >> For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are > subscribed to the Google Groups > > "amber-lang" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving > emails from it, send an > > email to [hidden email] > <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. > > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed > to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving > emails from it, send an email to > [hidden email] > <mailto:amber-lang%[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to > the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to > [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails > from it, send an email to > [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from > it, send an email to [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send an email to [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "amber-lang" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [hidden email] > <mailto:[hidden email]>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. 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On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi,
it is not me who wants to leave GitHub.
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Hi,
-- On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:
The NPM issue originates from a legal dispute, thus there is no correlation with a coding issue in the first place.
Why should I approve code I am not involved with? You lost me here. Best, Manfred
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Re: [ANN] I am going to leave github
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Sorry my bad
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 at 22:49, 'Manfred Kröhnert' via amber-lang <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Are there any results to the original questions, is there some consensus
or not yet? Herby Nicolas Petton wrote: > Herby Vojčík<[hidden email]> writes: > >> I have strong personal reasons for leaving github completely, deleting >> my account, which I will likely do this Friday. > > Would you agree to wait a bit more, to get enough time to get back on > our feet? > > Nico > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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Herby Vojčík <[hidden email]> writes:
> Are there any results to the original questions, is there some consensus > or not yet? No, unfortunately. Let me sum up the options we have: - We stay on GitHub because we think it's important for the community, and Herby will step down as head maintainer - We agree to move to a self-hosted platform, and Herby will keep maintaining Amber On one hand, I don't like the idea of moving out of GitHub, but on the other hand Herby's been a great maintainer, I don't want Amber to be without a maintainer and I don't know who could take his place. Nico -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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Hi,
-- On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Nicolas Petton <[hidden email]> wrote: Herby Vojčík <[hidden email]> writes: I am not in favor of moving to a self-hosted solution. The Amber community is not very big and the self-hosting is additional maintenance and administration work and reduces the project's exposure to the public. This administration effort might seem fine in the first place, but it adds a second responsibility to the project. It also poses the question of what happens if the then admin of the self-hosted solution has to step down from his job for some reasons? Or what if he can not keep up with applying updates and exposes the project to severe security issues due to the vulnerable self-hosting platform? Also, only providing a mirror on GitHub (or some other hosted service) means not accepting patches from there. This also means that we need some kind of second maintainer responsible for dealing with getting patches from there to the main development branch. Not to mention that we currently have very few contributions. However, Herby's reasons are of a political nature not from this area. Also, I would refrain from using hosting software with fewer features than GitLab or GitHub. The problem is that Herby is doing a great job as a maintainer but his political reasons to leave GitHub prevent using any kind of cloud hosted service and maybe even some of the free software such as GitLab. If we need to find a new maintainer, I am also not sure who could take this place. I am currently in the final phase of my PhD and don't have time for it, so even this discussion is taking away too much time from me. Best, Manfred You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:36:36 AM UTC+2, Nicolas Petton wrote:
-- Herby Vojčík <<a href="javascript:" target="_blank" gdf-obfuscated-mailto="hOOWDvFIAQAJ" rel="nofollow" onmousedown="this.href='javascript:';return true;" onclick="this.href='javascript:';return true;">he...@...> writes: As bystander, here is how I see situation. From value point I would say that Herby is much more valuable to Amber than Github, and there does not seem to be anyone ready/able to step into his shoes. So it seems that at the moment this is a nobrainer. For long term, jumping from one source host to another does not seem like a great idea, especially if it has not been wished for/endorsed by larger group of project stakeholders. So there will be some sort of price to pay. Lastly, moving to self hosted solution seems like a particularly bad idea. So mirror on site like github, with actionable plan how to switch if (pessimist would say when) Herby, gets tired, goes on 3 week holidays in alps, or any other imaginable hiccup. Lastly, I have not been paying attention to politics of source control, and I take there could be some serious issues. However, switching from one entity that has written rules, and significant number of stakeholders, to single person entity without written out rules often ends up in bitter disappointment. I wish to thank all people who have contributed to Amber and made it what it is today. Davorin Ruševljan You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "amber-lang" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [hidden email]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. |
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