[ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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[ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
 
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Hi,
I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the image content). You can see it here: http://goo.gl/nY2o The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) Cheers, -- Pavel _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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Wow, this is really cool.
Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? Lukas On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi, > > I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the > image content). You can see it here: > > http://goo.gl/nY2o > > The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 > CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 > > Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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No, but I'll try...
-- Pavel On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: > Wow, this is really cool. > > Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? > > Lukas > > On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >> image content). You can see it here: >> >> http://goo.gl/nY2o >> >> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >> >> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: No, but I'll try... If you are going to do that, you should see the Graig Latta work. I copy paste an email from me and him: ---------- Hi Graig. First, let me apologize for sending you this private email. Please tell me if it is correct. I am quite interested in having a system similar to Spoon. Actually, I want something more related to LOOM, but Spoon is also part of my "state of the art" ;) I saw that your visualizations are very very cool. I saw this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCwidGFkn4Q and then I see this link: http://www.caida.org/tools/visualization/walrus/ and finally I see http://netjam.org/spoon/objects.graph.gz I am working with Pharo for the moment. I wanted to ask if do you think it is possible to make your kind of visualizations for a PharoCore image. Do I need a specific VM? what should I do/code in the image side? Any hints is more than welcome. regarding the objects.graph.gz, you autogenerated that from the smalltlak image and then use it as input for walrus ? Thank you very much in advance, Mariano ------------- Sorry but walrus says "Walrus is a standalone application and not an API. It cannot be incorporated into other applications." So...how could you do it? maybe because the graph are text files, you checked them and then tried to autogenerate one from an smalltalk image? thanks again. ---------- Hi Mariano! Yes, I learned the Walrus file format, and generated Walrus files from the Smalltalk virtual machine simulator. It's odd that you couldn't load the objects.graph into Walrus... perhaps Walrus has changed in the meantime? Making these files from the simulator doesn't require any special virtual machine. I believe I included the Walrus support in the last Spoon release. Please let me know if you can't find it. thanks for writing! -- Pavel _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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In reply to this post by Lukas Renggli
Hi Lukas,
you can try it: http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/ImageMap.st the command that generates the graph is dot -Tsvg imageGraph.dot > imageGraph.svg Unfortunatelly my laptop has only 2GB so I have not enough RAM to generate the graph for whole PharoKernel image ;-) The input file for GraphViz has 67MB ;-) This is the resultant graph for the first 500 objects http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.svg Cheers, -- Pavel On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: > Wow, this is really cool. > > Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? > > Lukas > > On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >> image content). You can see it here: >> >> http://goo.gl/nY2o >> >> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >> >> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > > > -- > Lukas Renggli > www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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And here is the PDF version of the first 2000 objects
file:///home/krivanek/Dokumenty/pharo/12196/graphviz/1/imageGraph.pdf -- Pavel On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Lukas, > > you can try it: > http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/ImageMap.st > > the command that generates the graph is > dot -Tsvg imageGraph.dot > imageGraph.svg > > Unfortunatelly my laptop has only 2GB so I have not enough RAM to > generate the graph for whole PharoKernel image ;-) The input file for > GraphViz has 67MB ;-) > > This is the resultant graph for the first 500 objects > http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.svg > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Wow, this is really cool. >> >> Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? >> >> Lukas >> >> On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >>> image content). You can see it here: >>> >>> http://goo.gl/nY2o >>> >>> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >>> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >>> >>> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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On Wed, 20 Oct 2010, Pavel Krivanek wrote:
> And here is the PDF version of the first 2000 objects > > file:///home/krivanek/Dokumenty/pharo/12196/graphviz/1/imageGraph.pdf You copied a local url. Levente > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Pavel Krivanek > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi Lukas, >> >> you can try it: >> http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/ImageMap.st >> >> the command that generates the graph is >> dot -Tsvg imageGraph.dot > imageGraph.svg >> >> Unfortunatelly my laptop has only 2GB so I have not enough RAM to >> generate the graph for whole PharoKernel image ;-) The input file for >> GraphViz has 67MB ;-) >> >> This is the resultant graph for the first 500 objects >> http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.svg >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Wow, this is really cool. >>> >>> Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? >>> >>> Lukas >>> >>> On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >>>> image content). You can see it here: >>>> >>>> http://goo.gl/nY2o >>>> >>>> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >>>> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >>>> >>>> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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Ehh, thanks :-)
http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.pdf On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Levente Uzonyi <[hidden email]> wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 2010, Pavel Krivanek wrote: > >> And here is the PDF version of the first 2000 objects >> >> file:///home/krivanek/Dokumenty/pharo/12196/graphviz/1/imageGraph.pdf > > You copied a local url. > > > Levente > >> >> -- Pavel >> >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Pavel Krivanek >> <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Lukas, >>> >>> you can try it: >>> http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/ImageMap.st >>> >>> the command that generates the graph is >>> dot -Tsvg imageGraph.dot > imageGraph.svg >>> >>> Unfortunatelly my laptop has only 2GB so I have not enough RAM to >>> generate the graph for whole PharoKernel image ;-) The input file for >>> GraphViz has 67MB ;-) >>> >>> This is the resultant graph for the first 500 objects >>> http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.svg >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Wow, this is really cool. >>>> >>>> Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? >>>> >>>> Lukas >>>> >>>> On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >>>>> image content). You can see it here: >>>>> >>>>> http://goo.gl/nY2o >>>>> >>>>> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >>>>> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >>>>> >>>>> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> -- Pavel >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Lukas Renggli >>>> www.lukas-renggli.ch >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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Hi Lukas,
I tried to generate the graph for the PharoKernel on a better machine, it consumed 6.2 GB of RAM, now it is running for 20 hours and it is still not complete :-) -- Pavel On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Lukas, > > you can try it: > http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/ImageMap.st > > the command that generates the graph is > dot -Tsvg imageGraph.dot > imageGraph.svg > > Unfortunatelly my laptop has only 2GB so I have not enough RAM to > generate the graph for whole PharoKernel image ;-) The input file for > GraphViz has 67MB ;-) > > This is the resultant graph for the first 500 objects > http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.svg > > Cheers, > -- Pavel > > On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Wow, this is really cool. >> >> Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? >> >> Lukas >> >> On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >>> image content). You can see it here: >>> >>> http://goo.gl/nY2o >>> >>> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >>> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >>> >>> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> -- Pavel >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Lukas Renggli >> www.lukas-renggli.ch >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] ImageMap PharoKernel-12196
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Ouch too bad, the image needs to get smaller to have a visual look at it :-)
On 22 October 2010 09:34, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Lukas, > > I tried to generate the graph for the PharoKernel on a better machine, > it consumed 6.2 GB of RAM, now it is running for 20 hours and it is > still not complete :-) > > -- Pavel > > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Pavel Krivanek > <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Hi Lukas, >> >> you can try it: >> http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/ImageMap.st >> >> the command that generates the graph is >> dot -Tsvg imageGraph.dot > imageGraph.svg >> >> Unfortunatelly my laptop has only 2GB so I have not enough RAM to >> generate the graph for whole PharoKernel image ;-) The input file for >> GraphViz has 67MB ;-) >> >> This is the resultant graph for the first 500 objects >> http://www.grandjihlava.cz/tmp/ImageGraph/imageGraph.svg >> >> Cheers, >> -- Pavel >> >> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 9:15 PM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Wow, this is really cool. >>> >>> Did you also try to visualize the object-graph using GraphViz? >>> >>> Lukas >>> >>> On 19 October 2010 20:49, Pavel Krivanek <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I generated the PharoKernel ImageMap (hypertext representation of the >>>> image content). You can see it here: >>>> >>>> http://goo.gl/nY2o >>>> >>>> The source code is here: http://goo.gl/J4T0 >>>> CSS style is here: http://goo.gl/Pxw2 >>>> >>>> Use it carefully, for 2,2MB image it generates 77,6MB of HTML files :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> -- Pavel >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Lukas Renggli >>> www.lukas-renggli.ch >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Lukas Renggli www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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