Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a
ScriptLoader loadSuperOB and I remember this browser already providing a UML class diagram when you selected a class in the browser ... Bye T. -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
The UML visualization is not lost however.
Doit the following to load Mondrian: Gofer new squeaksource: 'Mondrian'; addPackage: 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; load. (Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfMondrian) perform: #loadLastStable. and then: MOReadme new umlFor: MOShape withAllSubclasses You will have a simple uml view that shows hierarchy of MOShape. Cheers, Alexandre On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a > > ScriptLoader loadSuperOB > > and I remember this browser already providing a > UML class diagram when you selected a class in > the browser ... > > Bye > T. > > > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla > Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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but this is class diagram in hierarchy
I want more collaboration. want could be really cool is that instead of storing these larges screenshot we have a tiny smalltalkish language to draw umlish box u := UMLClass named: 'ProgramNode' placedAt: 0@0. u2 := UMLClass named: 'Visitor' placedAt: 100@0. u3 := UMLClass named: 'Enum' placedAt: 300@0. u linkTo: u2. u3 inherits: u2. Like that we could have a doc per package that we can edit/generate.... Stef On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a > > ScriptLoader loadSuperOB > > and I remember this browser already providing a > UML class diagram when you selected a class in > the browser ... > > Bye > T. > > > -- > Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - > sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Yep. Such a script should then be easily rendered using Mondrian.
Alexandre On 17 Dec 2009, at 20:58, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > but this is class diagram in hierarchy > > I want more collaboration. > want could be really cool is that instead of storing these larges > screenshot we have a tiny smalltalkish language to draw umlish box > > u := UMLClass named: 'ProgramNode' > placedAt: 0@0. > u2 := UMLClass named: 'Visitor' > placedAt: 100@0. > u3 := UMLClass named: 'Enum' > placedAt: 300@0. > u linkTo: u2. > u3 inherits: u2. > > Like that we could have a doc per package that we can edit/ > generate.... > > Stef > > On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >> >> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >> >> and I remember this browser already providing a >> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >> the browser ... >> >> Bye >> T. >> >> >> -- >> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >> Firefox 3.5 - >> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
But ideally you do not want to load mondrian to display package description.
I would see more a combination of rectangle morph and line morph. On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Yep. Such a script should then be easily rendered using Mondrian. > > Alexandre > > > On 17 Dec 2009, at 20:58, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> but this is class diagram in hierarchy >> >> I want more collaboration. >> want could be really cool is that instead of storing these larges >> screenshot we have a tiny smalltalkish language to draw umlish box >> >> u := UMLClass named: 'ProgramNode' >> placedAt: 0@0. >> u2 := UMLClass named: 'Visitor' >> placedAt: 100@0. >> u3 := UMLClass named: 'Enum' >> placedAt: 300@0. >> u linkTo: u2. >> u3 inherits: u2. >> >> Like that we could have a doc per package that we can edit/ >> generate.... >> >> Stef >> >> On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> >>> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >>> >>> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >>> >>> and I remember this browser already providing a >>> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >>> the browser ... >>> >>> Bye >>> T. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >>> Firefox 3.5 - >>> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Yeah, Mondrian is a bit big for a simple feature (even important).
Alexandre On 17 Dec 2009, at 21:35, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > But ideally you do not want to load mondrian to display package > description. > I would see more a combination of rectangle morph and line morph. > > > On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:06 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > >> Yep. Such a script should then be easily rendered using Mondrian. >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 17 Dec 2009, at 20:58, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> >>> but this is class diagram in hierarchy >>> >>> I want more collaboration. >>> want could be really cool is that instead of storing these larges >>> screenshot we have a tiny smalltalkish language to draw umlish box >>> >>> u := UMLClass named: 'ProgramNode' >>> placedAt: 0@0. >>> u2 := UMLClass named: 'Visitor' >>> placedAt: 100@0. >>> u3 := UMLClass named: 'Enum' >>> placedAt: 300@0. >>> u linkTo: u2. >>> u3 inherits: u2. >>> >>> Like that we could have a doc per package that we can edit/ >>> generate.... >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>> >>>> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >>>> >>>> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >>>> >>>> and I remember this browser already providing a >>>> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >>>> the browser ... >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> T. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >>>> Firefox 3.5 - >>>> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Alex,
I've tried the Mondrian script, nice work, it looks something I could integrate to the Dependency Browser. Does Mondrian support zooming? Do you plan to use constraints for the layout? Cheers, Hernán 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: > The UML visualization is not lost however. > > Doit the following to load Mondrian: > Gofer new squeaksource: 'Mondrian'; addPackage: > 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; load. (Smalltalk at: > #ConfigurationOfMondrian) perform: #loadLastStable. > > and then: > MOReadme new umlFor: MOShape withAllSubclasses > > You will have a simple uml view that shows hierarchy of MOShape. > > Cheers, > Alexandre > > On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > >> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >> >> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >> >> and I remember this browser already providing a >> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >> the browser ... >> >> Bye >> T. >> >> >> -- >> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >> Firefox 3.5 - >> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Don't you have the '+' and '-' button at the top? Maybe I could rename
to 'Zoom +' and 'Zoom -'. What do you mean by constraints? Can you give an example of such a constraint? Alexandre On 17 Dec 2009, at 21:44, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > Hi Alex, > I've tried the Mondrian script, nice work, it looks something I > could integrate to the Dependency Browser. Does Mondrian support > zooming? Do you plan to use constraints for the layout? > Cheers, > > Hernán > > 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >> The UML visualization is not lost however. >> >> Doit the following to load Mondrian: >> Gofer new squeaksource: 'Mondrian'; addPackage: >> 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; load. (Smalltalk at: >> #ConfigurationOfMondrian) perform: #loadLastStable. >> >> and then: >> MOReadme new umlFor: MOShape withAllSubclasses >> >> You will have a simple uml view that shows hierarchy of MOShape. >> >> Cheers, >> Alexandre >> >> On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> >>> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >>> >>> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >>> >>> and I remember this browser already providing a >>> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >>> the browser ... >>> >>> Bye >>> T. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >>> Firefox 3.5 - >>> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
box1 alignWith: box2
box1 x > box2 x On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:49 PM, Alexandre Bergel wrote: > Don't you have the '+' and '-' button at the top? Maybe I could rename > to 'Zoom +' and 'Zoom -'. > > What do you mean by constraints? Can you give an example of such a > constraint? > > Alexandre > > > On 17 Dec 2009, at 21:44, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> I've tried the Mondrian script, nice work, it looks something I >> could integrate to the Dependency Browser. Does Mondrian support >> zooming? Do you plan to use constraints for the layout? >> Cheers, >> >> Hernán >> >> 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >>> The UML visualization is not lost however. >>> >>> Doit the following to load Mondrian: >>> Gofer new squeaksource: 'Mondrian'; addPackage: >>> 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; load. (Smalltalk at: >>> #ConfigurationOfMondrian) perform: #loadLastStable. >>> >>> and then: >>> MOReadme new umlFor: MOShape withAllSubclasses >>> >>> You will have a simple uml view that shows hierarchy of MOShape. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>> >>>> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >>>> >>>> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >>>> >>>> and I remember this browser already providing a >>>> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >>>> the browser ... >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> T. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >>>> Firefox 3.5 - >>>> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
> Don't you have the '+' and '-' button at the top? Maybe I could rename > to 'Zoom +' and 'Zoom -'. Now I see them. Yes, adding labels would help to get the '+' and '-' symbols more visibility. > > What do you mean by constraints? Can you give an example of such a > constraint? There is a very old ThingLab video which is the best demo I've seen: http://www.cs.washington.edu/research/constraints/videos/thinglab-1978.mov http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/study/courses/OMP/public/software/sqcdrom2/Documents/ThingLab/ThingLab-Chapter_5.html With Constraints you will have a way to say: -When a user resizes a window, then mantain the font proportion to stay into the boxes. -When a window is updated with a new figure (a sibling in the UML for example) then update the remaining siblings to preserve symmetry, etc. Summarising, with constraints you say what do you want to achieve, and not how to do it. The layout adjustement algorithm will use constraints to achieve it. There is an implementation of constraints solvers in Squeak called Cassowary http://www.squeaksource.com/Cassowary.html Cheers, Hernán > > Alexandre > > > On 17 Dec 2009, at 21:44, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > >> Hi Alex, >> I've tried the Mondrian script, nice work, it looks something I >> could integrate to the Dependency Browser. Does Mondrian support >> zooming? Do you plan to use constraints for the layout? >> Cheers, >> >> Hernán >> >> 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >>> The UML visualization is not lost however. >>> >>> Doit the following to load Mondrian: >>> Gofer new squeaksource: 'Mondrian'; addPackage: >>> 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; load. (Smalltalk at: >>> #ConfigurationOfMondrian) perform: #loadLastStable. >>> >>> and then: >>> MOReadme new umlFor: MOShape withAllSubclasses >>> >>> You will have a simple uml view that shows hierarchy of MOShape. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Alexandre >>> >>> On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>> >>>> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >>>> >>>> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >>>> >>>> and I remember this browser already providing a >>>> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >>>> the browser ... >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> T. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >>>> Firefox 3.5 - >>>> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > -- > _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: > Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu > ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Ok, I will check.
Alexandre On 17 Dec 2009, at 22:25, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >> Don't you have the '+' and '-' button at the top? Maybe I could >> rename >> to 'Zoom +' and 'Zoom -'. > > Now I see them. Yes, adding labels would help to get the '+' and '-' > symbols more visibility. > >> >> What do you mean by constraints? Can you give an example of such a >> constraint? > > There is a very old ThingLab video which is the best demo I've seen: > > http://www.cs.washington.edu/research/constraints/videos/thinglab-1978.mov > http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/study/courses/OMP/public/software/sqcdrom2/Documents/ThingLab/ThingLab-Chapter_5.html > > With Constraints you will have a way to say: > -When a user resizes a window, then mantain the font proportion to > stay into the boxes. > -When a window is updated with a new figure (a sibling in the UML for > example) then update the remaining siblings to preserve symmetry, etc. > > Summarising, with constraints you say what do you want to achieve, and > not how to do it. The layout adjustement algorithm will use > constraints to achieve it. There is an implementation of constraints > solvers in Squeak called Cassowary > > http://www.squeaksource.com/Cassowary.html > > Cheers, > > Hernán > >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 17 Dec 2009, at 21:44, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> I've tried the Mondrian script, nice work, it looks something I >>> could integrate to the Dependency Browser. Does Mondrian support >>> zooming? Do you plan to use constraints for the layout? >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >>>> The UML visualization is not lost however. >>>> >>>> Doit the following to load Mondrian: >>>> Gofer new squeaksource: 'Mondrian'; addPackage: >>>> 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; load. (Smalltalk at: >>>> #ConfigurationOfMondrian) perform: #loadLastStable. >>>> >>>> and then: >>>> MOReadme new umlFor: MOShape withAllSubclasses >>>> >>>> You will have a simple uml view that shows hierarchy of MOShape. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >>>>> >>>>> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >>>>> >>>>> and I remember this browser already providing a >>>>> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >>>>> the browser ... >>>>> >>>>> Bye >>>>> T. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >>>>> Firefox 3.5 - >>>>> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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I have the code of cassowary and delta blue if you want.
Stef On Dec 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: > 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >> Don't you have the '+' and '-' button at the top? Maybe I could rename >> to 'Zoom +' and 'Zoom -'. > > Now I see them. Yes, adding labels would help to get the '+' and '-' > symbols more visibility. > >> >> What do you mean by constraints? Can you give an example of such a >> constraint? > > There is a very old ThingLab video which is the best demo I've seen: > > http://www.cs.washington.edu/research/constraints/videos/thinglab-1978.mov > http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/study/courses/OMP/public/software/sqcdrom2/Documents/ThingLab/ThingLab-Chapter_5.html > > With Constraints you will have a way to say: > -When a user resizes a window, then mantain the font proportion to > stay into the boxes. > -When a window is updated with a new figure (a sibling in the UML for > example) then update the remaining siblings to preserve symmetry, etc. > > Summarising, with constraints you say what do you want to achieve, and > not how to do it. The layout adjustement algorithm will use > constraints to achieve it. There is an implementation of constraints > solvers in Squeak called Cassowary > > http://www.squeaksource.com/Cassowary.html > > Cheers, > > Hernán > >> >> Alexandre >> >> >> On 17 Dec 2009, at 21:44, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> I've tried the Mondrian script, nice work, it looks something I >>> could integrate to the Dependency Browser. Does Mondrian support >>> zooming? Do you plan to use constraints for the layout? >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >>>> The UML visualization is not lost however. >>>> >>>> Doit the following to load Mondrian: >>>> Gofer new squeaksource: 'Mondrian'; addPackage: >>>> 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; load. (Smalltalk at: >>>> #ConfigurationOfMondrian) perform: #loadLastStable. >>>> >>>> and then: >>>> MOReadme new umlFor: MOShape withAllSubclasses >>>> >>>> You will have a simple uml view that shows hierarchy of MOShape. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >>>>> >>>>> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >>>>> >>>>> and I remember this browser already providing a >>>>> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >>>>> the browser ... >>>>> >>>>> Bye >>>>> T. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >>>>> Firefox 3.5 - >>>>> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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> 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>:
>> Don't you have the '+' and '-' button at the top? Maybe I could >> rename >> to 'Zoom +' and 'Zoom -'. > > Now I see them. Yes, adding labels would help to get the '+' and '-' > symbols more visibility. Now in Mondrian-Alexandre_Bergel.317 Thanks for your suggestion >> What do you mean by constraints? Can you give an example of such a >> constraint? > > There is a very old ThingLab video which is the best demo I've seen: > > http://www.cs.washington.edu/research/constraints/videos/thinglab-1978.mov > http://www.fit.vutbr.cz/study/courses/OMP/public/software/sqcdrom2/Documents/ThingLab/ThingLab-Chapter_5.html Videos are cool! Unfortunately, resizing widget is not currently supported in the Pharo version of Mondrian. All the infrastructure is there, what is missing is the morphic event management. In short, a class MOResizeElementEvent is missing. > Summarising, with constraints you say what do you want to achieve, and > not how to do it. The layout adjustement algorithm will use > constraints to achieve it. There is an implementation of constraints > solvers in Squeak called Cassowary > > http://www.squeaksource.com/Cassowary.html Thanks Alexandre >> >> On 17 Dec 2009, at 21:44, Hernán Morales Durand wrote: >> >>> Hi Alex, >>> I've tried the Mondrian script, nice work, it looks something I >>> could integrate to the Dependency Browser. Does Mondrian support >>> zooming? Do you plan to use constraints for the layout? >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hernán >>> >>> 2009/12/17 Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]>: >>>> The UML visualization is not lost however. >>>> >>>> Doit the following to load Mondrian: >>>> Gofer new squeaksource: 'Mondrian'; addPackage: >>>> 'ConfigurationOfMondrian'; load. (Smalltalk at: >>>> #ConfigurationOfMondrian) perform: #loadLastStable. >>>> >>>> and then: >>>> MOReadme new umlFor: MOShape withAllSubclasses >>>> >>>> You will have a simple uml view that shows hierarchy of MOShape. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Alexandre >>>> >>>> On 17 Dec 2009, at 13:28, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> Back in "the good old Pharo days" (TM) we had a >>>>> >>>>> ScriptLoader loadSuperOB >>>>> >>>>> and I remember this browser already providing a >>>>> UML class diagram when you selected a class in >>>>> the browser ... >>>>> >>>>> Bye >>>>> T. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla >>>>> Firefox 3.5 - >>>>> sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >>>> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >>>> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> -- >> _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: >> Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu >> ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- _,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;: Alexandre Bergel http://www.bergel.eu ^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;._,.;:~^~:;. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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