[ANN] Metacello configurations for Pharo.
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----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | So far, I created: ConfigurationOfNewInspector, | ConfigurationOfOCompletion, | ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras, | ConfigurationOfPharoSound, ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser, | ConfigurationOfShout , and......ConfigurationOfPharo!!! Mariano, I'm working on a ConfigurationOfOmneBrowser that works on both Squeak and Pharo (and ultimately GemStone ...). Would you prefer that I start a new baseline/version or just overwrite 1.0? I lean towards overwriting, especially this early in the process, but I want your opinion. Dale _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser
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On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Dale. Good we are working in OB. This weekend / next-week I want to create a PharoDev image with OB so maybe I would rather if you can create a new baseline (taking 1.0 as a base) and if you want, later we can "merge" if necessary. What do you think ? Is this ok for you ? I lean towards overwriting, especially this early in the process, but I want your opinion. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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just fine..thanks
----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Dale Henrichs | <[hidden email]>wrote: | | > | > ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | > | > | So far, I created: ConfigurationOfNewInspector, | > | ConfigurationOfOCompletion, | > | ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras, | > | ConfigurationOfPharoSound, ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser, | > | ConfigurationOfShout , and......ConfigurationOfPharo!!! | > | > Mariano, | > | > I'm working on a ConfigurationOfOmneBrowser that works on both | Squeak and | > Pharo (and ultimately GemStone ...). | > | > Would you prefer that I start a new baseline/version or just | overwrite 1.0? | > | > | Hi Dale. Good we are working in OB. This weekend / next-week I want | to | create a PharoDev image with OB so maybe I would rather if you can | create a | new baseline (taking 1.0 as a base) and if you want, later we can | "merge" if | necessary. | | What do you think ? Is this ok for you ? | | | > I lean towards overwriting, especially this early in the process, | but I | > want your opinion. | > | > Dale | > | > _______________________________________________ | > Pharo-project mailing list | > [hidden email] | > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser
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Dale: after some discussions in Pharo mailing list, the community wants to use the Lukas repository for OB instead of wiresong.
I don't know the impact it makes to you, and I don't know the best way to manage this kind of situations. Right now, I create a new version and baselind to ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser that maps to Lukas repo and I change a little the dependencies, and, of course, the versions. Any thougths about this? Cheers Mariano On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote: just fine..thanks _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Mariano,
That's just fine ... make the changes that you need to make and I'll adapt that configuration for GLASS and Squeak (Gemtools). Dale ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | Dale: after some discussions in Pharo mailing list, the community | wants to | use the Lukas repository for OB instead of wiresong. | | I don't know the impact it makes to you, and I don't know the best way | to | manage this kind of situations. | | Right now, I create a new version and baselind to | ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser that maps to Lukas repo and I change a | little | the dependencies, and, of course, the versions. | | Any thougths about this? | | Cheers | | Mariano | | On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Dale Henrichs | <[hidden email]>wrote: | | > just fine..thanks | > ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | > | > | On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Dale Henrichs | > | <[hidden email]>wrote: | > | | > | > | > | > ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | > | > | > | > | So far, I created: ConfigurationOfNewInspector, | > | > | ConfigurationOfOCompletion, | > | > | ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, | ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras, | > | > | ConfigurationOfPharoSound, ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser, | > | > | ConfigurationOfShout , and......ConfigurationOfPharo!!! | > | > | > | > Mariano, | > | > | > | > I'm working on a ConfigurationOfOmneBrowser that works on both | > | Squeak and | > | > Pharo (and ultimately GemStone ...). | > | > | > | > Would you prefer that I start a new baseline/version or just | > | overwrite 1.0? | > | > | > | > | > | Hi Dale. Good we are working in OB. This weekend / next-week I | want | > | to | > | create a PharoDev image with OB so maybe I would rather if you | can | > | create a | > | new baseline (taking 1.0 as a base) and if you want, later we can | > | "merge" if | > | necessary. | > | | > | What do you think ? Is this ok for you ? | > | | > | | > | > I lean towards overwriting, especially this early in the | process, | > | but I | > | > want your opinion. | > | > | > | > Dale | > | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > | > Pharo-project mailing list | > | > [hidden email] | > | > | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | > | > | > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser
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On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Dale Henrichs <[hidden email]> wrote: Mariano, Thanks Dale. And regardless my intention to let you know this so that it is all right with you, what do you think the way I am managing this ? So far, I create a new pair of baseline/version, but maybe you have a better idea. Cheers Mariano Dale _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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I think that refactoring the baseline so the common requirements are common and the specific requirements that differ are made conditional upon the platform.
It is entirely possible that the bulk of the baseline will be common (differing only on which repository is used). then of course the version will be completely different for each platform. I'm working in thie area, so I think that I will create a sample baseline that you can look at and if it makes sense to you you can fold into the configuration. Dale ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 7:11 PM, Dale Henrichs | <[hidden email]>wrote: | | > Mariano, | > | > That's just fine ... make the changes that you need to make and I'll | adapt | > that configuration for GLASS and Squeak (Gemtools). | > | > | Thanks Dale. And regardless my intention to let you know this so that | it is | all right with you, what do you think the way I am managing this ? | So far, I create a new pair of baseline/version, but maybe you have a | better | idea. | | Cheers | | Mariano | | | > Dale | > | > ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | > | > | Dale: after some discussions in Pharo mailing list, the community | > | wants to | > | use the Lukas repository for OB instead of wiresong. | > | | > | I don't know the impact it makes to you, and I don't know the best | way | > | to | > | manage this kind of situations. | > | | > | Right now, I create a new version and baselind to | > | ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser that maps to Lukas repo and I change | a | > | little | > | the dependencies, and, of course, the versions. | > | | > | Any thougths about this? | > | | > | Cheers | > | | > | Mariano | > | | > | On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Dale Henrichs | > | <[hidden email]>wrote: | > | | > | > just fine..thanks | > | > ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> wrote: | > | > | > | > | On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Dale Henrichs | > | > | <[hidden email]>wrote: | > | > | | > | > | > | > | > | > ----- "Mariano Martinez Peck" <[hidden email]> | wrote: | > | > | > | > | > | > | So far, I created: ConfigurationOfNewInspector, | > | > | > | ConfigurationOfOCompletion, | > | > | > | ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, | > | ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras, | > | > | > | ConfigurationOfPharoSound, | ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser, | > | > | > | ConfigurationOfShout , and......ConfigurationOfPharo!!! | > | > | > | > | > | > Mariano, | > | > | > | > | > | > I'm working on a ConfigurationOfOmneBrowser that works on | both | > | > | Squeak and | > | > | > Pharo (and ultimately GemStone ...). | > | > | > | > | > | > Would you prefer that I start a new baseline/version or | just | > | > | overwrite 1.0? | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Hi Dale. Good we are working in OB. This weekend / next-week | I | > | want | > | > | to | > | > | create a PharoDev image with OB so maybe I would rather if | you | > | can | > | > | create a | > | > | new baseline (taking 1.0 as a base) and if you want, later we | can | > | > | "merge" if | > | > | necessary. | > | > | | > | > | What do you think ? Is this ok for you ? | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | > I lean towards overwriting, especially this early in the | > | process, | > | > | but I | > | > | > want your opinion. | > | > | > | > | > | > Dale | > | > | > | > | > | > _______________________________________________ | > | > | > Pharo-project mailing list | > | > | > [hidden email] | > | > | > | > | | http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project | > | > | > | > | > | > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: [ANN] Metacello configurations for Pharo.
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El vie, 08-01-2010 a las 13:48 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribió:
> > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Esteban Lorenzano > <[hidden email]> wrote: > btw, ConfigurationOfPharo shouldn't be > ConfigurationOfPharoDev? > > > No. For that we have the groups. The same ConfigurationOfPharo will be > used for differents stuff: > > ConfigurationOfPharo project version: 'xxx' load: 'StandardPharoDev' > > or > > ConfigurationOfPharo project version: 'xxx' load: 'StandardPharoWeb ' > (if they came back) > > or > > ConfigurationOfPharo project version: 'xxx' load: 'SOMETHING' (if > they came back) > I'm writing the metacello config for Magma. I suppose that the same applies here. a group for Client, a group for Server and a group for Tester. all of them defined in ConfigurationOfMagma. right? BTW. How did you compute dependencies in packages you aren't completely aware of the details. I remember a tool for this. Where can I find them? Cheers > Cheers > > Mariano > > > On 2010-01-07 17:54:27 -0300, Mariano Martinez Peck > > <[hidden email]> said: > > > > > > > (Sorry for the long email) > > > > Yes, after a couple of weeks, I have written most of the > needed Metacello > > configurations for the Dev images 1.0. Forget 1.1 for a > while. Now we are > > able to: > > > > 1) Load stable version of packages > > 2) Manage the dependencies automatically > > 3) Each developer can create its custom PharoDev image > > 4) Flexibility to load the packages you want > > 5) Choose the browser for example: OB or O2 > > 6) Choose to load the tests or not > > 7) Load each package in a PharoCore image without having to > install anything > > else (all the dependencies should be managed automatically) > > 8) You can take a PharoCore image and "transform" it to a > Dev image, or even > > web. > > 9) Others... > > > > This is not completed yet. There are some things that we are > discussing with > > Dale, but they are ok as a first step. I rather go step by > step. > > > > What I did is to create all the infrastructure: > > > > a) The Configuration classes > > b) The dependencies > > c) the groups, > > > > In summary, most of the "structure" and static information. > However, I am > > not sure which version to load of each package. I will > probable take care of > > building the Dev images, but I won't: > > > > - Merge anything. It will not be my task to merge OB, or RB > or whatever. > > - Check every version of each package before doing a release > to see if it is > > stable or not. > > > > So...what I REALLY (actually, WE) need is that each > developer, each > > maintainer of the packages that we load of a PharoDev image, > help us to > > create the stable versions. To create a new version for the > Metacello > > configuration is VERY easy, The hard part is already done. > You just have to > > create a method and say which versions (except you create or > eliminate > > packages or dependencies). If you read the code, you will > probably > > understand it. However, you can read the Metacello tutorial > (no more than > > one hour), or ask me or even more in the Metacello mailing > list. > > So...PLEASE, I need the help of the maintainers to create > the versions. So > > far, I created the first version (1.0) with the latest > version. But the idea > > is that then you create 1.1.1 or 1.2 or whatever you > consider. > > > > All the configurations can be found in > > http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository > > > > So far, I created: ConfigurationOfNewInspector, > ConfigurationOfOCompletion, > > ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, > ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtras, > > ConfigurationOfPharoSound, > ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser, > > ConfigurationOfShout , and......ConfigurationOfPharo!!! > > > > To install them, just download that package and evaluate the > load. Example: > > > > Gofer new > > squeaksource: 'MetacelloRepository'; > > package: 'ConfigurationOfShout'; > > load. > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfShout) project version: > '1.0') load. > > > > And then, you can also for exaple do: > > > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfShout) project version: > '1.0') load: 'Core' > > > > this doesn't install the tests. > > > > Or for example: (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser project > version: '1.0') load: > > 'Dev' > > > > etc... > > > > So, you can load any project and with the group you want. > All of that can be > > (or should be hahahaha) perfectly loaded in a 1.0 Core > image. > > > > What I would really appreciate is if each maintainer can > look at the code, > > load the different groups and give me feedback on the > dependencies or > > whatever. > > > > I really wait your feedback. > > > > Mariano > > > > ps: I will release soon the first dev image using this :) > > > > > > > (Sorry for the long email)<br><br>Yes, after a couple of > weeks, I have writ= > > ten most of the needed Metacello configurations for the Dev > images 1.0. For= > > get 1.1 for a while. Now we are able to:<br><br>1) Load > stable version of p= > > ackages<br> > > 2) Manage the dependencies automatically<br>3) Each > developer can create it= > > s custom PharoDev image<br> > > 4) Flexibility to load the packages you want<br>5) Choose > the browser for e= > > xample: OB or O2<br>6) Choose to load the tests or not<br>7) > Load each pack= > > age in a PharoCore image without having to install anything > else (all the d= > > ependencies should be managed automatically)<br> > > > > 8) You can take a PharoCore image and "transform" > it to a Dev ima= > > ge, or even web. <br>9) Others...<br><br>This is not > completed yet. There a= > > re some things that we are discussing with Dale, but they > are ok as a first= > > > step. I rather go step by step. <br> > > <br>What I did is to create all the > infrastructure:<br><br>a) The Configura= > > tion classes<br>b) The dependencies <br> > > c)=A0 the groups,<br><br>In summary, most of the > "structure" and = > > static information. However, I am not sure which version to > load of each pa= > > ckage. I will probable take care of building the Dev images, > but I won'= > > t:<br> > > > > <br>- Merge anything. It will not be my task to merge OB, or > RB or whatever= > > .<br>- Check every version of each package before doing a > release to see if= > > it is stable or not.<br><br>So...what I REALLY (actually, > WE) need is that= > > each developer, each maintainer of the packages that we > load of a PharoDev= > > image, help us to create the stable versions. To create a > new version for = > > > the Metacello configuration is VERY easy, The hard part is > already done. Yo= > > u just have to create a method and say which versions > (except you create or= > > > eliminate packages or dependencies). If you read the code, > you will probab= > > ly understand it. However, you can read the Metacello > tutorial (no more tha= > > n one hour), or ask me or even more in the Metacello mailing > list. So...PLE= > > ASE, I need the help of the maintainers to create the > versions. So far, I c= > > reated the first version (1.0) with the latest version. But > the idea is tha= > > t then you create 1.1.1 or 1.2 or whatever you consider.<br> > > <br>All the configurations can be found in <a > href=3D"http://www.squeaksour= > > > ce.com/MetacelloRepository">http://www.squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository= > > </a><br><br>So far, I created:=A0 > ConfigurationOfNewInspector, Configuratio= > > nOfOCompletion, ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser, > ConfigurationOfPharoMorphicExtr= > > as, ConfigurationOfPharoSound, > ConfigurationOfRefactoringBrowser, Configura= > > tionOfShout , and......ConfigurationOfPharo!!!<br> > > <br>To install them, just download that package and evaluate > the load. Exam= > > ple:<br><br>Gofer new<br>=A0=A0=A0 squeaksource: > 'MetacelloRepository&#= > > 39;;<br>=A0=A0=A0 package: > 'ConfigurationOfShout';<br>=A0=A0=A0 loa= > > d.<br><br>((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfShout) project > version: '1.0&= > > #39;) load.<br> > > <br>And then, you can also for exaple do:=A0 <br><br> > > ((Smalltalk at: #ConfigurationOfShout) project version: > '1.0') load= > > : 'Core'=A0 <br>this doesn't install the tests. > <br><br>Or for = > > example:=A0 (ConfigurationOfOmniBrowser project version: > '1.0') loa= > > d: 'Dev'<br> > > <br>etc...<br><br>So, you can load any project and with the > group you want.= > > All of that can be (or should be hahahaha) perfectly loaded > in a 1.0 Core = > > > image.<br><br>What I would really appreciate is if each > maintainer can look= > > at the code, load the different groups and give me feedback > on the depende= > > ncies or whatever.<br> > > <br>I really wait your feedback. > <br><br>Mariano<br><br>ps:=A0 I will relea= > > se soon the first dev image using this :)<br> > > <br> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pharo-project mailing list > > [hidden email] > > > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Miguel Cobá http://miguel.leugim.com.mx _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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> BTW. How did you compute dependencies in packages you aren't completely > aware of the details. I remember a tool for this. Where can I find them? > I found this: http://cs.hernanmorales.com.ar/projects/dependencyBrowser/DBrowser-en.php that appears to be the one you are using. -- Miguel Cobá http://miguel.leugim.com.mx _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2010/1/12 Miguel Enrique Cobá Martinez <[hidden email]> El vie, 08-01-2010 a las 13:48 +0100, Mariano Martinez Peck escribió: Yes. You can also create groups from others groups. For example you may want a client and the test, so, you can create another groups that brings both. However it is not NECESSARY as you can always do: (ConfigOfXX project version: 'YYY' ) load: 'aGroup' or: (ConfigOfXX project version: 'YYY' ) load: #('aGroup' 'anotherGroup'). BTW. How did you compute dependencies in packages you aren't completely you found it :) Cheers _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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