Hi,
time flows and Pharo-Project is improving on all ends since its inception in 2008. As you know over time for the code project hosting we used SqueakSource, SS3 repos and other and later switched to SmalltalkHub available on http://smalltalkhub.com. Starting with Iceberg in Pharo 6 many community projects are now hosted elsewhere - most of them moved to GitHub. Pharo's git support allows also for GitLab, BitBucket and other git hosting services. I still think easy and quick accessibility to external (re)sources directly from the image is key - especially for new users who often get lost among all the various things that are available. Back in 2013 I therefore provided a small tool called ConfigBrowser as a replacement for MetacelloConfigurationBrowser to easily load Metacello configs directly into Pharo. Later we improved quick loading with a primary tool called "Catalog" written by Esteban. Catalog is indexing every 24 hours all configs within specific meta-repositories on SmalltalkHub (per Pharo version) like http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo80 to automatically build http://catalog.pharo.org/ and also a JSON source http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/json The last one feeds the catalog browser and catalog spotter search within the Pharo image. So Catalog helped us and especially new Pharo users to find what is available as external project or package. Unfortunately some package maintainers are too lazy and do not maintain their configs over old and new Pharo versions. Also SmalltalkHub.com is now seen as legacy and will only be available in a read only mode or as a browseable archive soon. So we have to think about others steps beyond Catalog and (triggered by a recent discussion on Discord) I started now a simple tool that helped me finding all GitHub projects marked with "pharo" as GitHub topic. I additionally also added previous catalog loading. More sources could be added as well as some kind of custom stores/plugins. Maybe this tool could be the base for a future replacement of the catalog tool. Long story short - let me introduce "Pharo Compendium": Compendium is a new UI tool to list, browse and load Pharo artefacts from the web like: - GitHub Projects - Catalog Projects and other By default there are two plugin packages available for GitHub and Catalog - but you can implement own ones easily to connect to other sources on the web. Compendium is available on: https://github.com/astares/Pharo-Compendium It is implemented using the new Spec2 UI framework - so you need a recent Pharo 9 image to give it a try. Just run: Metacello new repository: 'github://astares/Pharo-Compendium/src'; baseline: 'Compendium'; load to load the tool. Then go to "Tools" -> "Compendium Browser". Attached is a screenshot demoing the primary functionality. If you want your GitHub project to be listed in the tool you simply need to add the topic "pharo" to the GitHub repository on the GitHub webpage. Feel free to comment or help improving the tool by sending PR's. Thx T. (aka astares) compendium.png (334K) Download Attachment |
Really cool Torsten!. A much needed tool :) On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 5:35 PM Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: Hi, |
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Excellent Torsten!
I guess it will not work in Pharo 8 because of the Spec 2 requirement. Right? Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo On Sat, May 2, 2020 at 5:35 PM Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi, > > time flows and Pharo-Project is improving on all ends since its inception in 2008. As you know over time for the code project hosting we used > SqueakSource, SS3 repos and other and later switched to SmalltalkHub available on http://smalltalkhub.com. > Starting with Iceberg in Pharo 6 many community projects are now hosted elsewhere - most of them moved to GitHub. Pharo's git support allows > also for GitLab, BitBucket and other git hosting services. > > I still think easy and quick accessibility to external (re)sources directly from the image is key - especially for new users who often get lost > among all the various things that are available. Back in 2013 I therefore provided a small tool called ConfigBrowser as a replacement for > MetacelloConfigurationBrowser to easily load Metacello configs directly into Pharo. > > Later we improved quick loading with a primary tool called "Catalog" written by Esteban. Catalog is indexing every 24 hours all configs within > specific meta-repositories on SmalltalkHub (per Pharo version) like > > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo80 > > to automatically build > > http://catalog.pharo.org/ > > and also a JSON source > > http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/json > > The last one feeds the catalog browser and catalog spotter search within the Pharo image. > > So Catalog helped us and especially new Pharo users to find what is available as external project or package. Unfortunately some package maintainers > are too lazy and do not maintain their configs over old and new Pharo versions. Also SmalltalkHub.com is now seen as legacy and will only be available > in a read only mode or as a browseable archive soon. > > So we have to think about others steps beyond Catalog and (triggered by a recent discussion on Discord) I started now a simple tool that helped me > finding all GitHub projects marked with "pharo" as GitHub topic. I additionally also added previous catalog loading. More sources could be added > as well as some kind of custom stores/plugins. Maybe this tool could be the base for a future replacement of the catalog tool. > > Long story short - let me introduce "Pharo Compendium": > > Compendium is a new UI tool to list, browse and load Pharo artefacts from the web like: > > - GitHub Projects > - Catalog Projects > > and other > > By default there are two plugin packages available for GitHub and Catalog - but you can implement own ones easily to connect to other sources > on the web. Compendium is available on: > > https://github.com/astares/Pharo-Compendium > > It is implemented using the new Spec2 UI framework - so you need a recent Pharo 9 image to give it a try. Just run: > > Metacello new > repository: 'github://astares/Pharo-Compendium/src'; > baseline: 'Compendium'; > load > > to load the tool. Then go to "Tools" -> "Compendium Browser". Attached is a screenshot demoing the primary functionality. > > If you want your GitHub project to be listed in the tool you simply need to add the topic "pharo" to the GitHub repository on the GitHub webpage. > > Feel free to comment or help improving the tool by sending PR's. > > Thx > T. (aka astares) > > |
It can probably work in P8 because parts of Spec20 are working in P8 but not all the features and widgets like tables and others.
But torsten will tell us.
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Yes - I was developing on P9 and never tried it in Pharo 8. But I checked now - seems to work without
any problem there as well. Thx T. Gesendet: Sonntag, 03. Mai 2020 um 22:36 Uhr Von: "Stéphane Ducasse" <[hidden email]> An: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Compendium It can probably work in P8 because parts of Spec20 are working in P8 but not all the features and widgets like tables and others. But torsten will tell us. On 3 May 2020, at 17:34, Esteban Maringolo <[hidden email][mailto:[hidden email]]> wrote: Excellent Torsten! I guess it will not work in Pharo 8 because of the Spec 2 requirement. Right? Regards! Esteban A. Maringolo |
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Great work, Torsten, works like a charm !
Since all Github projects have a README.md maybe that could be used as well, it will certainly contain more information. Most projects have several keyswords as well, that could be useful to show. Also, why not add a 'clone & metacello install baseline of' command ? Another idea: allow spotter searching of the pharo compendium entries ? Sven > On 2 May 2020, at 22:34, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi, > > time flows and Pharo-Project is improving on all ends since its inception in 2008. As you know over time for the code project hosting we used > SqueakSource, SS3 repos and other and later switched to SmalltalkHub available on http://smalltalkhub.com. > Starting with Iceberg in Pharo 6 many community projects are now hosted elsewhere - most of them moved to GitHub. Pharo's git support allows > also for GitLab, BitBucket and other git hosting services. > > I still think easy and quick accessibility to external (re)sources directly from the image is key - especially for new users who often get lost > among all the various things that are available. Back in 2013 I therefore provided a small tool called ConfigBrowser as a replacement for > MetacelloConfigurationBrowser to easily load Metacello configs directly into Pharo. > > Later we improved quick loading with a primary tool called "Catalog" written by Esteban. Catalog is indexing every 24 hours all configs within > specific meta-repositories on SmalltalkHub (per Pharo version) like > > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo80 > > to automatically build > > http://catalog.pharo.org/ > > and also a JSON source > > http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/json > > The last one feeds the catalog browser and catalog spotter search within the Pharo image. > > So Catalog helped us and especially new Pharo users to find what is available as external project or package. Unfortunately some package maintainers > are too lazy and do not maintain their configs over old and new Pharo versions. Also SmalltalkHub.com is now seen as legacy and will only be available > in a read only mode or as a browseable archive soon. > > So we have to think about others steps beyond Catalog and (triggered by a recent discussion on Discord) I started now a simple tool that helped me > finding all GitHub projects marked with "pharo" as GitHub topic. I additionally also added previous catalog loading. More sources could be added > as well as some kind of custom stores/plugins. Maybe this tool could be the base for a future replacement of the catalog tool. > > Long story short - let me introduce "Pharo Compendium": > > Compendium is a new UI tool to list, browse and load Pharo artefacts from the web like: > > - GitHub Projects > - Catalog Projects > > and other > > By default there are two plugin packages available for GitHub and Catalog - but you can implement own ones easily to connect to other sources > on the web. Compendium is available on: > > https://github.com/astares/Pharo-Compendium > > It is implemented using the new Spec2 UI framework - so you need a recent Pharo 9 image to give it a try. Just run: > > Metacello new > repository: 'github://astares/Pharo-Compendium/src'; > baseline: 'Compendium'; > load > > to load the tool. Then go to "Tools" -> "Compendium Browser". Attached is a screenshot demoing the primary functionality. > > If you want your GitHub project to be listed in the tool you simply need to add the topic "pharo" to the GitHub repository on the GitHub webpage. > > Feel free to comment or help improving the tool by sending PR's. > > Thx > T. (aka astares) > > > <compendium.png> |
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In the past we added metadata to manifest.
And the compedium could take advantage of that. We will have to work on it (end of the month). S
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Hi Sven,
I added spotter search now. I prefixed the github spotter entries additionally with the user name (owner). This way you will be able to quickly find tagged public projects by keying in the project and/or username. See attached picture for an example. Catalog loading is possible via spotter too. Have fun T. > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. Mai 2020 um 14:24 Uhr > Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <[hidden email]> > An: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> > Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Compendium > > Great work, Torsten, works like a charm ! > > Since all Github projects have a README.md maybe that could be used as well, it will certainly contain more information. > > Most projects have several keyswords as well, that could be useful to show. > > Also, why not add a 'clone & metacello install baseline of' command ? > > Another idea: allow spotter searching of the pharo compendium entries ? > > Sven > > > On 2 May 2020, at 22:34, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email]> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > time flows and Pharo-Project is improving on all ends since its inception in 2008. As you know over time for the code project hosting we used > > SqueakSource, SS3 repos and other and later switched to SmalltalkHub available on http://smalltalkhub.com. > > Starting with Iceberg in Pharo 6 many community projects are now hosted elsewhere - most of them moved to GitHub. Pharo's git support allows > > also for GitLab, BitBucket and other git hosting services. > > > > I still think easy and quick accessibility to external (re)sources directly from the image is key - especially for new users who often get lost > > among all the various things that are available. Back in 2013 I therefore provided a small tool called ConfigBrowser as a replacement for > > MetacelloConfigurationBrowser to easily load Metacello configs directly into Pharo. > > > > Later we improved quick loading with a primary tool called "Catalog" written by Esteban. Catalog is indexing every 24 hours all configs within > > specific meta-repositories on SmalltalkHub (per Pharo version) like > > > > http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo80 > > > > to automatically build > > > > http://catalog.pharo.org/ > > > > and also a JSON source > > > > http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/json > > > > The last one feeds the catalog browser and catalog spotter search within the Pharo image. > > > > So Catalog helped us and especially new Pharo users to find what is available as external project or package. Unfortunately some package maintainers > > are too lazy and do not maintain their configs over old and new Pharo versions. Also SmalltalkHub.com is now seen as legacy and will only be available > > in a read only mode or as a browseable archive soon. > > > > So we have to think about others steps beyond Catalog and (triggered by a recent discussion on Discord) I started now a simple tool that helped me > > finding all GitHub projects marked with "pharo" as GitHub topic. I additionally also added previous catalog loading. More sources could be added > > as well as some kind of custom stores/plugins. Maybe this tool could be the base for a future replacement of the catalog tool. > > > > Long story short - let me introduce "Pharo Compendium": > > > > Compendium is a new UI tool to list, browse and load Pharo artefacts from the web like: > > > > - GitHub Projects > > - Catalog Projects > > > > and other > > > > By default there are two plugin packages available for GitHub and Catalog - but you can implement own ones easily to connect to other sources > > on the web. Compendium is available on: > > > > https://github.com/astares/Pharo-Compendium > > > > It is implemented using the new Spec2 UI framework - so you need a recent Pharo 9 image to give it a try. Just run: > > > > Metacello new > > repository: 'github://astares/Pharo-Compendium/src'; > > baseline: 'Compendium'; > > load > > > > to load the tool. Then go to "Tools" -> "Compendium Browser". Attached is a screenshot demoing the primary functionality. > > > > If you want your GitHub project to be listed in the tool you simply need to add the topic "pharo" to the GitHub repository on the GitHub webpage. > > > > Feel free to comment or help improving the tool by sending PR's. > > > > Thx > > T. (aka astares) > > > > > > <compendium.png> > > > Compendium_Spotter.jpg (138K) Download Attachment |
Nice ;-)
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Really great tool Torsten :)
I tagged some of my repo to test. I reseted the stores because they wasn’t showing. It seems to load but then when querying in spotter, I got an error message because of non authentification. I went in in the (iceberg) settings, checked then unchecked the default RSA keys directory (by the way is it a know bug or is it just me ?). It worked after, I mean no error when querying spotter. Still I don’t see my projects. I’ll try later but if you have an idea... Cheers, Cédrick
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Hi Cédrick,
The GitHub part is based on an open public GitHub HTTP query - which has some limits: - it does not return private repos, only public ones - it has a rate limit to not bring servers down Maybe there is a way to overcome these limits via authentication, yes. But most of my projects are public - so for me this was not a problem yet. And the initial idea of Compendium is to find public resources available to all users - not private ones available to single ones. If time permits I might look into this ... but not now. Bye T. Gesendet: Donnerstag, 14. Mai 2020 um 13:02 Uhr Von: "Cédrick Béler" <[hidden email]> An: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email]> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Compendium Really great tool Torsten :) I tagged some of my repo to test. I reseted the stores because they wasn’t showing. It seems to load but then when querying in spotter, I got an error message because of non authentification. I went in in the (iceberg) settings, checked then unchecked the default RSA keys directory (by the way is it a know bug or is it just me ?). It worked after, I mean no error when querying spotter. Still I don’t see my projects. I’ll try later but if you have an idea... Cheers, Cédrick Le 12 mai 2020 à 16:35, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email][mailto:[hidden email]]> a écrit : Hi Sven, I added spotter search now. I prefixed the github spotter entries additionally with the user name (owner). This way you will be able to quickly find tagged public projects by keying in the project and/or username. See attached picture for an example. Catalog loading is possible via spotter too. Have fun T. Gesendet: Mittwoch, 06. Mai 2020 um 14:24 Uhr Von: "Sven Van Caekenberghe" <[hidden email][mailto:[hidden email]]> An: "Any question about pharo is welcome" <[hidden email][mailto:[hidden email]]> Betreff: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo Compendium Great work, Torsten, works like a charm ! Since all Github projects have a README.md maybe that could be used as well, it will certainly contain more information. Most projects have several keyswords as well, that could be useful to show. Also, why not add a 'clone & metacello install baseline of' command ? Another idea: allow spotter searching of the pharo compendium entries ? Sven On 2 May 2020, at 22:34, Torsten Bergmann <[hidden email][mailto:[hidden email]]> wrote: Hi, time flows and Pharo-Project is improving on all ends since its inception in 2008. As you know over time for the code project hosting we used SqueakSource, SS3 repos and other and later switched to SmalltalkHub available on http://smalltalkhub.com[http://smalltalkhub.com]. Starting with Iceberg in Pharo 6 many community projects are now hosted elsewhere - most of them moved to GitHub. Pharo's git support allows also for GitLab, BitBucket and other git hosting services. I still think easy and quick accessibility to external (re)sources directly from the image is key - especially for new users who often get lost among all the various things that are available. Back in 2013 I therefore provided a small tool called ConfigBrowser as a replacement for MetacelloConfigurationBrowser to easily load Metacello configs directly into Pharo. Later we improved quick loading with a primary tool called "Catalog" written by Esteban. Catalog is indexing every 24 hours all configs within specific meta-repositories on SmalltalkHub (per Pharo version) like http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo80[http://www.smalltalkhub.com/#!/~Pharo/MetaRepoForPharo80] to automatically build http://catalog.pharo.org/[http://catalog.pharo.org/] and also a JSON source http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/json[http://catalog.pharo.org/catalog/json] The last one feeds the catalog browser and catalog spotter search within the Pharo image. So Catalog helped us and especially new Pharo users to find what is available as external project or package. Unfortunately some package maintainers are too lazy and do not maintain their configs over old and new Pharo versions. Also SmalltalkHub.com[http://SmalltalkHub.com] is now seen as legacy and will only be available in a read only mode or as a browseable archive soon. So we have to think about others steps beyond Catalog and (triggered by a recent discussion on Discord) I started now a simple tool that helped me finding all GitHub projects marked with "pharo" as GitHub topic. I additionally also added previous catalog loading. More sources could be added as well as some kind of custom stores/plugins. Maybe this tool could be the base for a future replacement of the catalog tool. Long story short - let me introduce "Pharo Compendium": Compendium is a new UI tool to list, browse and load Pharo artefacts from the web like: - GitHub Projects - Catalog Projects and other By default there are two plugin packages available for GitHub and Catalog - but you can implement own ones easily to connect to other sources on the web. Compendium is available on: https://github.com/astares/Pharo-Compendium[https://github.com/astares/Pharo-Compendium] It is implemented using the new Spec2 UI framework - so you need a recent Pharo 9 image to give it a try. Just run: Metacello new repository: 'github://astares/Pharo-Compendium/src'; baseline: 'Compendium'; load to load the tool. Then go to "Tools" -> "Compendium Browser". Attached is a screenshot demoing the primary functionality. If you want your GitHub project to be listed in the tool you simply need to add the topic "pharo" to the GitHub repository on the GitHub webpage. Feel free to comment or help improving the tool by sending PR's. Thx T. (aka astares) <compendium.png> <Compendium_Spotter.jpg> |
Hi Torsten,
I tried with public ones (I don’t think I have a private or maybe because I tried once). It seems it was related to my authentification problem. What I did wad adding the « pharo » tag to some project after I loaded and tried Compendium. So the crawler hadn’t seen them. Browsing the code, I managed to reset the cache. And then, when typing my GitHub name (cdrick65), it started downloading stuff but wasn’t showing anything after. I’ll try again in a new image.
No hurry ;), already a great tool to load packages ! I love it. What would be great is to access a summary info (the readme.md ?) and show for instance in the spotter search (but no hurry too). And as time allows, I’ll surely try to hack it because possibilities are endless :) Cheers, Cédrick
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