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[ANN] Pier 1.1

Tudor Girba-3
Hi,

Release 1.1 of Pier is now available:
www.piercms.com/install

What's new:
- Several bug fixes
- New syntax constructs
- New and whiter stylesheet

www.piercms.com also received a face lift, and it received some new  
documentation.

Have fun and tell us what you think.

Doru and Lukas


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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

keith1y
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Tudor Girba wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Release 1.1 of Pier is now available:
> www.piercms.com/install
>
> What's new:
> - Several bug fixes
> - New syntax constructs
> - New and whiter stylesheet
>
> www.piercms.com also received a face lift, and it received some new
> documentation.
>
> Have fun and tell us what you think.
>
> Doru and Lukas
Any information on the new stuff would be great.

Due to things moving too fast I am still stuck back in the Model-lr.235,
and even then my components have lost their ability to edit settings, so
I have lost control of my site!

It would be nice to see some discussion of how things are moving
forward. For example the new parser was a complete surprise, and really
messed with my head.

thanks in advance

Keith

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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

Lukas Renggli
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> How do I migrate my existing site to 1.1?

1. Save the image under a new name, just to be sure.

2. Disable an existing persistency strategy:

    aKernel persistency: PRNullPersistency new

3. Load the latest code of Magritte-Model, Magritte-Seaside and other
Magritte packages you might have present in your image using
Monticello.

4. Load the latest code of Pier-Model, Pier-Seaside and other Pier
packages you might have present in your image using Monticello.

5. Re-enable the persistency either using the above command or through
the web interface.

I did the above procedure with several older images (among them
lukas-renggli.ch and seaside.st) and it worked flawlessly. Some
packages do an object migration when loading and detecting an
incompatible model. So before you save your image again, test if
everything works.

Lukas

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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

Damien Cassou-3
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:59 AM, Lukas Renggli <[hidden email]> wrote:
> 4. Load the latest code of Pier-Model, Pier-Seaside and other Pier
> packages you might have present in your image using Monticello.

You must load Pier-Links in http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/pieraddons/
before updating Pier-Model or you are going to be surprised with
obsolete classes.

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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

Lukas Renggli
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> Any information on the new stuff would be great.

I will write something about the motivation behind the value links.

> Due to things moving too fast I am still stuck back in the Model-lr.235,
> and even then my components have lost their ability to edit settings, so
> I have lost control of my site!

I can't imagine how that could happen.

Can you give more details? Is it a security issue? Is it just not
displayed in the menu? Do you get an error? How about logging in as
administrator? How about manually navigating to the settings by typing
the URL and appending "?command=PRSettingsCommand"?

> It would be nice to see some discussion of how things are moving
> forward. For example the new parser was a complete surprise, and really
> messed with my head.

The new parser was introduced more than a year ago on August 12, 2007.
The new parser is fully backward compatible, it passes the extact same
tests as the old parser did, and it made it possible to have pluggable
extensions to the wiki syntax. As long as you did not patch the old
SmaCC parser there should be no compatibility issues (at least none
were reported to me).

Cheers,
Lukas

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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

Tudor Girba-3
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Hi,

> Regarding the stylesheet, the previous one was clearly better. The
> white is too white.


To which stylesheet are you referring: the from the release or the one  
from piercms.com?

"clearly better" is clearly not helpful because it's clearly not so  
clear :). Seriously, is there something that confuses you in the  
layout? Is there something you cannot find?

Cheers,
Doru


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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

Matthias Berth-2
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Hi,

the new site looks good. From the installation video, I guess that by
default Pier is started with the seaside halos enabled? If so, then a
FAQ like "How do I secure my Pier installation?" with hints on
disabling halos and changing passwords would make it easier for
newbies to do the right thing.

Cheers

Matthias

On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:09 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Release 1.1 of Pier is now available:
> www.piercms.com/install
>
> What's new:
> - Several bug fixes
> - New syntax constructs
> - New and whiter stylesheet
>
> www.piercms.com also received a face lift, and it received some new
> documentation.
>
> Have fun and tell us what you think.
>
> Doru and Lukas
>
>
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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

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Re: [ANN] Pier 1.1

Lukas Renggli
> based one-click image. Is is possible? Is the data jailed inside the
> image? If so I'm afraid I'll have to stop using Pier.

Of course the data is not jailed inside an image. There are many
different serialization techniques available, basically you can use
any of those to serialize the kernel and load it into a new image.
ReferenceStreams that come with every image are a fairly good choice.

However it is currently not a thing of a few clicks, it takes some
time and patience. It could be that block contexts are in your model,
and that your serialization framework of choice chokes on those.
Usually it is not a problem to skip these and just serialize them as
nil values.

Cheers,
Lukas

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Tudor Girba-3
Hi Krishna,

Much clearer now :)

The idea behind the stylesheet of the one-click installer is to  
inflict as less constraints as possible on the graphic design, so that  
it is easier for people to adapt it to their needs. In fact, if you  
add the old CSS over the new structure (you can do this via the Edit  
Design command) it mostly match because only few things have changed  
in the structure.

Thanks for the feedback.

Cheers,
Doru

p.s. Is your Pier webpage online somewhere?



On Feb 5, 2009, at 4:53 PM, Krishna wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Regarding the stylesheet, the previous one was clearly better. The
>>> white is too white.
>>
>>
>> To which stylesheet are you referring: the from the release or the  
>> one from
>> piercms.com?
>>
>
> I was referring to the newly released one-click installer.
>
>> "clearly better" is clearly not helpful because it's clearly not so  
>> clear
>> :). Seriously, is there something that confuses you in the layout?  
>> Is there
>> something you cannot find?
>>
>
> Looks like my "clear" is clearly not clear so here is an attempt at
> clearing it up:  I was talking about the colors. Feeling robbed
> without the black menu/tab bar. The current scheme is too whitish
> although it looks ok in the daylight (which happened after I had
> posted the not-so-clear comment).
>
> Cheers,
>  -Krishna
>
> --
> Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
> and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?
> -  Aksel Peter Jorgensen
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David Zmick
I like this new pier page, but I fell like there is something missing  
as far as the appearancee. the site feels very "empty" possibly  
caused by the lack of color?
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On Feb 5, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Krishna wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]>  
> wrote:
>
>> p.s. Is your Pier webpage online somewhere?
>>
>
> http://scriptek.co.in
>
>
>
> --
> Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
> and totally illogical, with just a little bit more effort?
> -  Aksel Peter Jorgensen
>
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