[ANN] STicky

> STicky is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace
> aimed to learn languages. For a quick overview please take a look at
> the presentation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uUIEaGyoU
>
> The Smalltalk evaluator could be useful in learning courses or for
> newbies typing expressions, but other translators/evaluators may help
> with more advanced usage, it all depends of the source and target
> languages you're using. Some default external translators, which does
> the real job, were included :
>
> Smalltalk to JavaScript (ST2JS by Diego Gomez Deck)
> Smalltlak to Java (Smalltalk2Java by Alexandre Bergel)
> Smalltalk to SQL (ROE by Avi Bryant)
> Smalltalk to AST nodes (Marcus Denker et al)
> HTML validator ( Todd Blanchard)
> JSON to Smalltalk (Tony Garnock-Jones et al)
> (...contact me if you want to add your translator in the release, a
> facility to automatic installation of translators is provided)
>
> You can easily plug translators and the workspace will update the
> current contents dynamically inside a sticky-like dialog or a fixed
> pane, the updater interface was decoupled to make possible other kinds
> of widgets too, but this is a bit experimental.
> Downloads from:
>
> http://www.squeaksource.com/STicky.html
>
> Comments are welcome.
>
> Hernán
>
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> STicky is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace
> aimed to learn languages. For a quick overview please take a look at
> the presentation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uUIEaGyoU
>
> The Smalltalk evaluator could be useful in learning courses or for
> newbies typing expressions, but other translators/evaluators may help
> with more advanced usage, it all depends of the source and target
> languages you're using. Some default external translators, which does
> the real job, were included :
>
> Smalltalk to JavaScript (ST2JS by Diego Gomez Deck)
> Smalltlak to Java (Smalltalk2Java by Alexandre Bergel)
> Smalltalk to SQL (ROE by Avi Bryant)
> Smalltalk to AST nodes (Marcus Denker et al)
> HTML validator ( Todd Blanchard)
> JSON to Smalltalk (Tony Garnock-Jones et al)
> (...contact me if you want to add your translator in the release, a
> facility to automatic installation of translators is provided)
>
> You can easily plug translators and the workspace will update the
> current contents dynamically inside a sticky-like dialog or a fixed
> pane, the updater interface was decoupled to make possible other kinds
> of widgets too, but this is a bit experimental.
> Downloads from:
>
> http://www.squeaksource.com/STicky.html
>
> Comments are welcome.
>
> Hernán
>
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> what is the diff between sticky and stickysq
>
> I like the name...
>
>
> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:20 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>> STicky is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace
>> aimed to learn languages. For a quick overview please take a look at
>> the presentation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uUIEaGyoU
>>
>> The Smalltalk evaluator could be useful in learning courses or for
>> newbies typing expressions, but other translators/evaluators may help
>> with more advanced usage, it all depends of the source and target
>> languages you're using. Some default external translators, which does
>> the real job, were included :
>>
>> Smalltalk to JavaScript (ST2JS by Diego Gomez Deck)
>> Smalltlak to Java (Smalltalk2Java by Alexandre Bergel)
>> Smalltalk to SQL (ROE by Avi Bryant)
>> Smalltalk to AST nodes (Marcus Denker et al)
>> HTML validator (      Todd Blanchard)
>> JSON to Smalltalk (Tony Garnock-Jones et al)
>> (...contact me if you want to add your translator in the release, a
>> facility to automatic installation of translators is provided)
>>
>> You can easily plug translators and the workspace will update the
>> current contents dynamically inside a sticky-like dialog or a fixed
>> pane, the updater interface was decoupled to make possible other kinds
>> of widgets too, but this is a bit experimental.
>> Downloads from:
>>
>> http://www.squeaksource.com/STicky.html
>>
>> Comments are welcome.
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pharo-project mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
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> But for beginner what is the difference between that and a Smalltalk
> interpreter.
> The idea is that they can compare with their own language the
> smalltalk syntax?
> it could work now when trnaslating to Java you can generate really bad
> code to
> express smalltalk syntax?
>
> Stef
>
> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Andrey Larionov wrote:
>
>> Its an awesome. It what i want cause i smalltalk beginer
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 01:20, Hernán Morales Durand
>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>> is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace
>>
>
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> That's one idea. Although there are many applications. I'm using it
> now to test a translator from Smalltalk to PQF (an insane query
> language), but the course of acquisition of a natural language is a
> very complex process, so a linguist can write a translator which
> display dynamically inflectional systems differences between English
> and Greek or Chinese, or a WordNet application which suggest synonyms
> to a writer as he writes, or a logician which desires to show his
> students calculus applied to a "lingua characteristica", i.e. it is
> not limited to computer or constructed languages. Use your imagination
> :)
>
> For the Smalltalk to Java part, I've just included a translator
> available in the SqueakSource repository, I'm not so concerned about
> the correcteness of a translator but if the author wants to include a
> warning before usage of his tool I will happily include it.
>
> One motivation for STicky were the arguments of some Java developers I
> know, they told me they've felt lost inside Smalltalk (they've never
> seen a Programming System as an autonomic system with global behavior,
> etc. but as a process which deals with dead text code) and since
> language is a means for referring objects rather than the object
> itself, this tool can show the referent sources of their language, if
> a translator exists of course.
> Cheers,
>
> Hernán
>
> 2009/9/27 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>> But for beginner what is the difference between that and a Smalltalk
>> interpreter.
>> The idea is that they can compare with their own language the
>> smalltalk syntax?
>> it could work now when trnaslating to Java you can generate really  
>> bad
>> code to
>> express smalltalk syntax?
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Andrey Larionov wrote:
>>
>>> Its an awesome. It what i want cause i smalltalk beginer
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 01:20, Hernán Morales Durand
>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>> is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pharo-project mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>
>
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> Ok now if you want people to use it provide a loader that loads
> everything.
> Because so far I could not make it work. Because extra packages are
> missin.
>
> Stef
>
> On Sep 27, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>> That's one idea. Although there are many applications. I'm using it
>> now to test a translator from Smalltalk to PQF (an insane query
>> language), but the course of acquisition of a natural language is a
>> very complex process, so a linguist can write a translator which
>> display dynamically inflectional systems differences between English
>> and Greek or Chinese, or a WordNet application which suggest synonyms
>> to a writer as he writes, or a logician which desires to show his
>> students calculus applied to a "lingua characteristica", i.e. it is
>> not limited to computer or constructed languages. Use your imagination
>> :)
>>
>> For the Smalltalk to Java part, I've just included a translator
>> available in the SqueakSource repository, I'm not so concerned about
>> the correcteness of a translator but if the author wants to include a
>> warning before usage of his tool I will happily include it.
>>
>> One motivation for STicky were the arguments of some Java developers I
>> know, they told me they've felt lost inside Smalltalk (they've never
>> seen a Programming System as an autonomic system with global behavior,
>> etc. but as a process which deals with dead text code) and since
>> language is a means for referring objects rather than the object
>> itself, this tool can show the referent sources of their language, if
>> a translator exists of course.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>> 2009/9/27 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>> But for beginner what is the difference between that and a Smalltalk
>>> interpreter.
>>> The idea is that they can compare with their own language the
>>> smalltalk syntax?
>>> it could work now when trnaslating to Java you can generate really
>>> bad
>>> code to
>>> express smalltalk syntax?
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Andrey Larionov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Its an awesome. It what i want cause i smalltalk beginer
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 01:20, Hernán Morales Durand
>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
>>
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> Ok, maybe this is going to be a sticky post? :)
> I have no problems installing with the following script in a Pharo-Core #10458 :
>
> | instClass |
> instClass := Smalltalk at: #Installer ifAbsent: [ ScriptLoader new
> installingInstaller ].
> instClass ss
>        project: 'STicky';
>        install: 'STicky'
>
> The extra packages (translators or evaluators) are loaded by request
> selecting the menu item (I don't want to load all the translators in
> one-pass because people may want to just use one and that would load
> many unnecessary packages for them), maybe you have to wait a little
> bit until the installer finish a particular package loading? Have you
> received any exception or walkback selecting a specific translator?
>
> Hernán
>
> PS : The only problem I have is in a clean image if opening the
> interactive workspace before anything else, some code is compiled in
> test classes automatically, and it seems Author>>fullName assumes one
> must provide initials before compiling anything or the system will not
> continue to work.
>
> [fullName isEmptyOrNil ] whileTrue: [self requestFullName].
>
>
> 2009/9/27 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>> Ok now if you want people to use it provide a loader that loads
>> everything.
>> Because so far I could not make it work. Because extra packages are
>> missin.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>>
>>> That's one idea. Although there are many applications. I'm using it
>>> now to test a translator from Smalltalk to PQF (an insane query
>>> language), but the course of acquisition of a natural language is a
>>> very complex process, so a linguist can write a translator which
>>> display dynamically inflectional systems differences between English
>>> and Greek or Chinese, or a WordNet application which suggest synonyms
>>> to a writer as he writes, or a logician which desires to show his
>>> students calculus applied to a "lingua characteristica", i.e. it is
>>> not limited to computer or constructed languages. Use your imagination
>>> :)
>>>
>>> For the Smalltalk to Java part, I've just included a translator
>>> available in the SqueakSource repository, I'm not so concerned about
>>> the correcteness of a translator but if the author wants to include a
>>> warning before usage of his tool I will happily include it.
>>>
>>> One motivation for STicky were the arguments of some Java developers I
>>> know, they told me they've felt lost inside Smalltalk (they've never
>>> seen a Programming System as an autonomic system with global behavior,
>>> etc. but as a process which deals with dead text code) and since
>>> language is a means for referring objects rather than the object
>>> itself, this tool can show the referent sources of their language, if
>>> a translator exists of course.
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Hernán
>>>
>>> 2009/9/27 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>>> But for beginner what is the difference between that and a Smalltalk
>>>> interpreter.
>>>> The idea is that they can compare with their own language the
>>>> smalltalk syntax?
>>>> it could work now when trnaslating to Java you can generate really
>>>> bad
>>>> code to
>>>> express smalltalk syntax?
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 26, 2009, at 11:26 PM, Andrey Larionov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Its an awesome. It what i want cause i smalltalk beginer
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 01:20, Hernán Morales Durand
>>>>> <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>> is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>

> STicky is a pluggable real-time evaluator and/or translator workspace
> aimed to learn languages. For a quick overview please take a look at
> the presentation video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uUIEaGyoU
>
> The Smalltalk evaluator could be useful in learning courses or for
> newbies typing expressions, but other translators/evaluators may help
> with more advanced usage, it all depends of the source and target
> languages you're using. Some default external translators, which does
> the real job, were included :
>
> Smalltalk to JavaScript (ST2JS by Diego Gomez Deck)
> Smalltlak to Java (Smalltalk2Java by Alexandre Bergel)
> Smalltalk to SQL (ROE by Avi Bryant)
> Smalltalk to AST nodes (Marcus Denker et al)
> HTML validator ( Todd Blanchard)
> JSON to Smalltalk (Tony Garnock-Jones et al)
> (...contact me if you want to add your translator in the release, a
> facility to automatic installation of translators is provided)
>
> You can easily plug translators and the workspace will update the
> current contents dynamically inside a sticky-like dialog or a fixed
> pane, the updater interface was decoupled to make possible other kinds
> of widgets too, but this is a bit experimental.
> Downloads from:
>
> http://www.squeaksource.com/STicky.html
>
> Comments are welcome.
>
> Hernán
>
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