[ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
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[ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
 
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The beta version of the Seaside Sever adapter for Swazoo 2 is available. Besides the usual bug fixes it now has also encoding support. Get it from Package Universes under "Web Development beta" or from SqueakSource [1] [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/SeasideForSwazoo-pmm.4.mcz Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Re: [ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
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philippe
is a special action to do to use seaside with Swazoo? I would like to add a section on startOn: 9090 with Swazoo in our book? Is it the same protocol (startOn:...) with comanche and swazoo? Stef On 19 oct. 07, at 13:46, Philippe Marschall wrote: > Hi > > The beta version of the Seaside Sever adapter for Swazoo 2 is > available. Besides the usual bug fixes it now has also encoding > support. > > Get it from Package Universes under "Web Development beta" or from > SqueakSource [1] > > [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/SeasideForSwazoo-pmm.4.mcz > > Cheers > Philippe > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Re: [ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
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See the documentation, either the class comment or the Universes
entry. I must seriously reconsider writing documentation if nobody reads it anyway. Like this it's just wasted time. Cheers Philippe 2007/10/22, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>: > philippe > > is a special action to do to use seaside with Swazoo? > I would like to add a section on startOn: 9090 with Swazoo in our book? > Is it the same protocol (startOn:...) with comanche and swazoo? > > Stef > > On 19 oct. 07, at 13:46, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > > Hi > > > > The beta version of the Seaside Sever adapter for Swazoo 2 is > > available. Besides the usual bug fixes it now has also encoding > > support. > > > > Get it from Package Universes under "Web Development beta" or from > > SqueakSource [1] > > > > [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/SeasideForSwazoo-pmm.4.mcz > > > > Cheers > > Philippe > > _______________________________________________ > > seaside mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Phillippe,
> I must seriously reconsider writing documentation if nobody > reads it anyway. Like this it's just wasted time. I understand your frustration, but communication is more complex than what we are lead to think. Documentation is only one of the channels people use to communicate. In this context, "nobody" is an important word in your sentence above, and a dangerous one. A certain amount of people will read the documentation and find their answers, or at least ask better questions. User documentation is important. As more people write good class comments, more people will get used to read them, and that's a good trend. Victor ================================================== Philippe Marschall wrote: > See the documentation, either the class comment or the Universes > entry. I must seriously reconsider writing documentation if nobody > reads it anyway. Like this it's just wasted time. > > Cheers > Philippe > > > 2007/10/22, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>: >> philippe >> >> is a special action to do to use seaside with Swazoo? >> I would like to add a section on startOn: 9090 with Swazoo in our book? >> Is it the same protocol (startOn:...) with comanche and swazoo? >> >> Stef >> >> On 19 oct. 07, at 13:46, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> The beta version of the Seaside Sever adapter for Swazoo 2 is >>> available. Besides the usual bug fixes it now has also encoding >>> support. >>> >>> Get it from Package Universes under "Web Development beta" or from >>> SqueakSource [1] >>> >>> [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/SeasideForSwazoo-pmm.4.mcz >>> >>> Cheers >>> Philippe >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Re: [ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
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On Oct 22, 2007, at 2:57 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote: > See the documentation, either the class comment or the Universes > entry. I must seriously reconsider writing documentation if nobody > reads it anyway. Like this it's just wasted time. You're missing the point of documentation in an open source project. People will ask questions no matter what you do. If there is no documentation, you have to write out a lengthy reply with the answer. If you do have documentation, your reply can be four letters and maybe a url. Colin _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Re: [ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
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Philippe,
It can be frustrating when people seem not to notice documentation. Since Seaside had little internal documentation for a long time people are not used to looking for it. Seaside needs more documentation. It will take sometime. As we get more documentation people will slowly notice it. Also Stephane's book will be a benefit for Seaside. It will be a useful source of documentation for people. Hope you don't get discouraged. You are doing a lot of work for Seaside. I appreciate what you are doing for the community. On Oct 22, 2007, at 5:57 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote: > See the documentation, either the class comment or the Universes > entry. I must seriously reconsider writing documentation if nobody > reads it anyway. Like this it's just wasted time. > > Cheers > Philippe ---- Roger Whitney Department of Computer Science [hidden email] San Diego State University http://www.eli.sdsu.edu/ San Diego, CA 92182-7720 _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
RE: [ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
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It's not, someones read. I read. Documentation is valuable. Your work is
valuable. To be use to find comments or not makes part of the Seaside experience. So it's true that we think that by default Seaside will not have a comment. But it's aslo true that time over a work like the one you are making will sowly revert this trend. cheers, Sebastian Sastre > -----Mensaje original----- > De: [hidden email] > [mailto:[hidden email]] En nombre > de Philippe Marschall > Enviado el: Lunes, 22 de Octubre de 2007 06:58 > Para: Seaside - general discussion > Asunto: Re: [Seaside] [ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta > > See the documentation, either the class comment or the > Universes entry. I must seriously reconsider writing > documentation if nobody reads it anyway. Like this it's just > wasted time. > > Cheers > Philippe > > > 2007/10/22, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>: > > philippe > > > > is a special action to do to use seaside with Swazoo? > > I would like to add a section on startOn: 9090 with Swazoo > in our book? > > Is it the same protocol (startOn:...) with comanche and swazoo? > > > > Stef > > > > On 19 oct. 07, at 13:46, Philippe Marschall wrote: > > > > > Hi > > > > > > The beta version of the Seaside Sever adapter for Swazoo 2 is > > > available. Besides the usual bug fixes it now has also encoding > > > support. > > > > > > Get it from Package Universes under "Web Development > beta" or from > > > SqueakSource [1] > > > > > > [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/SeasideForSwazoo-pmm.4.mcz > > > > > > Cheers > > > Philippe > > > _______________________________________________ > > > seaside mailing list > > > [hidden email] > > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > seaside mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Come on philippe.
I'm in train reading emails but without connection :) I will read the comments but right now I work the day and fix my house the night... so quite running. Stef On 22 oct. 07, at 11:57, Philippe Marschall wrote: > See the documentation, either the class comment or the Universes > entry. I must seriously reconsider writing documentation if nobody > reads it anyway. Like this it's just wasted time. > > Cheers > Philippe > > > 2007/10/22, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>: >> philippe >> >> is a special action to do to use seaside with Swazoo? >> I would like to add a section on startOn: 9090 with Swazoo in our >> book? >> Is it the same protocol (startOn:...) with comanche and swazoo? >> >> Stef >> >> On 19 oct. 07, at 13:46, Philippe Marschall wrote: >> >>> Hi >>> >>> The beta version of the Seaside Sever adapter for Swazoo 2 is >>> available. Besides the usual bug fixes it now has also encoding >>> support. >>> >>> Get it from Package Universes under "Web Development beta" or from >>> SqueakSource [1] >>> >>> [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/SeasideForSwazoo-pmm.4.mcz >>> >>> Cheers >>> Philippe >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Re: [ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
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philippe
is it the doc you mean? "Swazoo (Smalltalk Web Application Zoo) is an open source, vendor agnostic, dialect neutral Smalltalk web server with resource and web request resolution framework. Category: Network Depends on: Sport Maintained by: mivsek Downloads from: http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/Swazoo-2.0.mcz Homepage: http://www.swazoo.org/" I guess not so where can I find it? Stef On 24 oct. 07, at 19:10, stephane ducasse wrote: > Come on philippe. > I'm in train reading emails but without connection :) > I will read the comments but right now I work the day and fix my > house the night... > so quite running. > Stef > > On 22 oct. 07, at 11:57, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> See the documentation, either the class comment or the Universes >> entry. I must seriously reconsider writing documentation if nobody >> reads it anyway. Like this it's just wasted time. >> >> Cheers >> Philippe >> >> >> 2007/10/22, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>: >>> philippe >>> >>> is a special action to do to use seaside with Swazoo? >>> I would like to add a section on startOn: 9090 with Swazoo in our >>> book? >>> Is it the same protocol (startOn:...) with comanche and swazoo? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On 19 oct. 07, at 13:46, Philippe Marschall wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> The beta version of the Seaside Sever adapter for Swazoo 2 is >>>> available. Besides the usual bug fixes it now has also encoding >>>> support. >>>> >>>> Get it from Package Universes under "Web Development beta" or from >>>> SqueakSource [1] >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/SeasideForSwazoo-pmm.4.mcz >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Philippe >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Re: [ANN] Seaside for Swazoo 2 beta
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And SeasideForSwazoo crashed on my when I wanted to donwload it from
the universe. stef On 24 oct. 07, at 19:10, stephane ducasse wrote: > Come on philippe. > I'm in train reading emails but without connection :) > I will read the comments but right now I work the day and fix my > house the night... > so quite running. > Stef > > On 22 oct. 07, at 11:57, Philippe Marschall wrote: > >> See the documentation, either the class comment or the Universes >> entry. I must seriously reconsider writing documentation if nobody >> reads it anyway. Like this it's just wasted time. >> >> Cheers >> Philippe >> >> >> 2007/10/22, stephane ducasse <[hidden email]>: >>> philippe >>> >>> is a special action to do to use seaside with Swazoo? >>> I would like to add a section on startOn: 9090 with Swazoo in our >>> book? >>> Is it the same protocol (startOn:...) with comanche and swazoo? >>> >>> Stef >>> >>> On 19 oct. 07, at 13:46, Philippe Marschall wrote: >>> >>>> Hi >>>> >>>> The beta version of the Seaside Sever adapter for Swazoo 2 is >>>> available. Besides the usual bug fixes it now has also encoding >>>> support. >>>> >>>> Get it from Package Universes under "Web Development beta" or from >>>> SqueakSource [1] >>>> >>>> [1] http://www.squeaksource.com/Swazoo/SeasideForSwazoo-pmm.4.mcz >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> Philippe >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> seaside mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> seaside mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> seaside mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside >> > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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