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[ANN] Swazoo has now WebSocket support

Janko Mivšek
Dear Smalltalkers,

Past few days I worked on WebSocket implementation in Swazoo Smalltalk
web server [1], in coordination with Philippe Marschall from Seaside [4]
and Nicolas Petton from Iliad [5] devteams, so together with me from
Aida/Web [3] our cooperation ensures that this implementation is ready
to be adapted for all three main web frameworks.

Why WebSocket? Because it will replace current Comet hacks to enable a
bidirectional messaging between browser and web application, specially
for web app to send something back to the browser without waiting for
user to click something. Read a bit more about WebSocket here:

        http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/introducing-web-sockets/

WebSocket as browser supported technology enables opening an always
present channel, so that web app can send commands like update some
element of the webpage at any time. That's why WebSocket is ideal for so
called "real-time" web.

You are invited to look at the code for Squeak/Pharo as Swazoo2.3beta1.1
at http://www.squeaksource.org/Swazoo.html

A bit more about WebSocket in Swazoo:

        http://www.swazoo.org/websocket

Best regards
Janko
Swazoo maintainer

[1] Swazoo WebSocket support
    http://www.swazoo.org/websocket
[2] Introducing WebSockets
    http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/introducing-web-sockets/
[3] Aida/Web
    http://www.aidaweb.si
[4] Seaside
    http://www.seaside.st
[5] Iliad
    http://www.iliadproject.org

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Re: [ANN] Swazoo has now WebSocket support

Carlos Crosetti-3
nice contribution

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Subject: [Seaside] [ANN] Swazoo has now WebSocket support


> Dear Smalltalkers,
>
> Past few days I worked on WebSocket implementation in Swazoo Smalltalk
> web server [1], in coordination with Philippe Marschall from Seaside [4]
> and Nicolas Petton from Iliad [5] devteams, so together with me from
> Aida/Web [3] our cooperation ensures that this implementation is ready
> to be adapted for all three main web frameworks.
>
> Why WebSocket? Because it will replace current Comet hacks to enable a
> bidirectional messaging between browser and web application, specially
> for web app to send something back to the browser without waiting for
> user to click something. Read a bit more about WebSocket here:
>
> http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/introducing-web-sockets/
>
> WebSocket as browser supported technology enables opening an always
> present channel, so that web app can send commands like update some
> element of the webpage at any time. That's why WebSocket is ideal for so
> called "real-time" web.
>
> You are invited to look at the code for Squeak/Pharo as Swazoo2.3beta1.1
> at http://www.squeaksource.org/Swazoo.html
>
> A bit more about WebSocket in Swazoo:
>
> http://www.swazoo.org/websocket
>
> Best regards
> Janko
> Swazoo maintainer
>
> [1] Swazoo WebSocket support
>    http://www.swazoo.org/websocket
> [2] Introducing WebSockets
>    http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/introducing-web-sockets/
> [3] Aida/Web
>    http://www.aidaweb.si
> [4] Seaside
>    http://www.seaside.st
> [5] Iliad
>    http://www.iliadproject.org
>
> _______________________________________________
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> [hidden email]
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside
>
>


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Re: [ANN] Swazoo has now WebSocket support

Philippe Marschall
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2010/12/2 Janko Mivšek <[hidden email]>:

> Dear Smalltalkers,
>
> Past few days I worked on WebSocket implementation in Swazoo Smalltalk
> web server [1], in coordination with Philippe Marschall from Seaside [4]
> and Nicolas Petton from Iliad [5] devteams, so together with me from
> Aida/Web [3] our cooperation ensures that this implementation is ready
> to be adapted for all three main web frameworks.
>
> Why WebSocket? Because it will replace current Comet hacks to enable a
> bidirectional messaging between browser and web application, specially
> for web app to send something back to the browser without waiting for
> user to click something. Read a bit more about WebSocket here:
>
>        http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/introducing-web-sockets/
>
> WebSocket as browser supported technology enables opening an always
> present channel, so that web app can send commands like update some
> element of the webpage at any time. That's why WebSocket is ideal for so
> called "real-time" web.
>
> You are invited to look at the code for Squeak/Pharo as Swazoo2.3beta1.1
> at http://www.squeaksource.org/Swazoo.html
>
> A bit more about WebSocket in Swazoo:
>
>        http://www.swazoo.org/websocket

Looks like we have to wait for a new version of the protocol:

 http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/12/websockets-disabled-in-firefox-4/

Cheers
Philippe
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Re: [ANN] Swazoo has now WebSocket support

Andreas.Raab
On 12/9/2010 4:40 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
> Looks like we have to wait for a new version of the protocol:
>
>   http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/12/websockets-disabled-in-firefox-4/
>

This is *seriously* bad news. CONNECT through port 80 (as required by
the connect based handshake) is disabled in virtually all proxy
installations, meaning that adoption of the connect based handshake will
be extremely slow and painful for real world applications :-(((

Cheers,
   - Andreas
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Re: [ANN] Swazoo has now WebSocket support

sebastianconcept@gmail.co
For a while maybe but in a couple of years web apps are going to be incredible.

That's why Google rushed presenting all their Chrome only stuff (this week)



On Dec 9, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Andreas Raab wrote:

> On 12/9/2010 4:40 AM, Philippe Marschall wrote:
>> Looks like we have to wait for a new version of the protocol:
>>
>>  http://hacks.mozilla.org/2010/12/websockets-disabled-in-firefox-4/
>>
>
> This is *seriously* bad news. CONNECT through port 80 (as required by the connect based handshake) is disabled in virtually all proxy installations, meaning that adoption of the connect based handshake will be extremely slow and painful for real world applications :-(((
>
> Cheers,
>  - Andreas
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Prototype wrapper

Carlos Crosetti-3
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Hi, some days ago I just saw the Prototype Javascript library wrapper for
Seaside, am I wrong?  Kind re post the URL, thanks, Carlos


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