[ANN] new Squeak Projects website (UI Builder, ...) at Software Architecture Group

On 12/1/10 12:01 PM, "Tim Felgentreff" <[hidden email]> wrote:

Tim, very thanks.
As I guess, some small step is missed ....

Now I got this beauty, thanks all in Postdam.

Edgar

Tim,

The reason that you are having trouble has to do with the fact that
version '1.0' sorts later than version 'head'. The algorithm in
Metacello checks which version of Animations, Signals and Widgets are
loaded (1.0, 1.0.1, and 1.0 respectively after the version 1.0 of
Designer is loaded) against the requested version which would be 'head'
for all three cases, but because 'head' sorts before '1.0' or '1.0.1' it
appears to Metacello that you already have a 'later version' of each of
the projects loaded and therefore does not attempt to "downgrade' to 'head'.

In the current version of Metacello you could achieve what you want by
changing the #versionString: specification for the three projects to
'head-baseline' instead of 'head'.

When a #baseline version is specified in a project reference Metacello
doesn't attempt to figure out the currentVersion because loading
#baseline versions implies that you want the latest version of the mcz
files loaded...

Does this help?

Dale

On 12/01/2010 06:01 AM, Tim Felgentreff wrote:

same here: firefox 3.6.10 reported untrusted...

updated firefox to 3.6.12 (seems most current) a few minutes ago - and still
untrusted...

IE trusts the site...

2 cents



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Am 2010-12-01 um 11:24 schrieb Herbert König:
> Hello Bastian,
>
> interesting projects, though I obviously havent looked at more than
> teh descriptions yet.
> SB> I am happy to announce our new Squeak projects website at
> SB> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects.
>
> This still links to a https connection which Firefox reports as
> untrusted.


Should be trustet, Its a DFN-cert[1] with a Telekom Root Cert,
wich, as of [2], should be included in your Firefox.

HTH

So Long,
    -Tobias




[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Forschungsnetz
[2]
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=ttwCVzDVuWzZYaDosdU6e3w&single=true&gid=0&output=html

sorry - sent before reading other posts...



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From: Squeak List <[hidden email]>
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Sent: Thu, December 2, 2010 1:14:02 AM
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Software Architecture Group

same here: firefox 3.6.10 reported untrusted...

updated firefox to 3.6.12 (seems most current) a few minutes ago - and still
untrusted...

IE trusts the site...

2 cents



----- Original Message ----
From: Tobias Pape <[hidden email]>
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<[hidden email]>
Sent: Wed, December 1, 2010 3:46:44 AM
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Software Architecture Group

Am 2010-12-01 um 11:24 schrieb Herbert König:
> Hello Bastian,
>
> interesting projects, though I obviously havent looked at more than
> teh descriptions yet.
> SB> I am happy to announce our new Squeak projects website at
> SB> http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects.
>
> This still links to a https connection which Firefox reports as
> untrusted.


Should be trustet, Its a DFN-cert[1] with a Telekom Root Cert,
wich, as of [2], should be included in your Firefox.

HTH

So Long,
    -Tobias




[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deutsches_Forschungsnetz
[2]
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=ttwCVzDVuWzZYaDosdU6e3w&single=true&gid=0&output=html

Hi Bert,

Thanks,
will pass that on.

So Long,
        -Tobias

Hi.

I just changed to configurations of Animations, Signals, Widgets, and
Designer to use the built-in mechanism of Metacello with #development
blessing #versionXXX:.

So this should work to get the latest stable version:

"ConfigurationOfXXX load."

And this should work to get the latest development version (aka "head"):

"ConfigurationOfXXX project bleedingEdge load."

Nevertheless, the configuration of Designer seems to have a problem with the
latest stable version 1.0:

version100: spec

        <version: '1.0' imports: #('1.0-baseline')>
       
        spec for: #common do: [
                spec blessing: #release.
                spec author: 'Marcel Taeumel'.
               
                spec
                        project: 'Signals' with: '1.0.1';
                        project: 'Animations' with: '1.0';
                        project: 'Widgets' with: '1.0'.
               
                spec package: 'Designer' with: 'Designer-mt.9'].

If you try to load, it fails because Widgets 1.1 will be loaded and not 1.0.
I have no idea why this happens.

Bye,
Marcel

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Henrichs
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...) at Software Architecture Group

Tim,

The reason that you are having trouble has to do with the fact that
version '1.0' sorts later than version 'head'. The algorithm in
Metacello checks which version of Animations, Signals and Widgets are
loaded (1.0, 1.0.1, and 1.0 respectively after the version 1.0 of
Designer is loaded) against the requested version which would be 'head'
for all three cases, but because 'head' sorts before '1.0' or '1.0.1' it
appears to Metacello that you already have a 'later version' of each of
the projects loaded and therefore does not attempt to "downgrade' to 'head'.

In the current version of Metacello you could achieve what you want by
changing the #versionString: specification for the three projects to
'head-baseline' instead of 'head'.

When a #baseline version is specified in a project reference Metacello
doesn't attempt to figure out the currentVersion because loading
#baseline versions implies that you want the latest version of the mcz
files loaded...

Does this help?

Dale

On 12/01/2010 06:01 AM, Tim Felgentreff wrote: Installer

On 12/4/10 8:24 AM, "Marcel Taeumel"
<[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Marcel.

Just on IRC asking why ConfigurationOfDesigner DNU bleedingEdge.

My Monticello list

ConfigurationOfDesigner-mt.7
ConfigurationOfSignals-mt.5
ConfigurationOfSwaUtil-mt.7
ConfigurationOfWidgets-mt.10

I put MorphicDesigner high on the list of projects for the FunSqueakCog i
doing (see attached pict) and plan release as Christmas present to all good
Squeakers and Pharopatas also.

Very thanks for the good work to all you in Postdam.

Edgar

Hi.

"ConfigurationOfDesigner project bleedingEdge load."

should work. I just forgot "project" in the wiki. ^_^

Bye,
Marcel

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On 12/4/10 8:24 AM, "Marcel Taeumel"
<[hidden email]> wrote:
the 1.0.
> I have no idea why this happens.
>
> Bye,
> Marcel

Hi Marcel.

Just on IRC asking why ConfigurationOfDesigner DNU bleedingEdge.

My Monticello list

ConfigurationOfDesigner-mt.7
ConfigurationOfSignals-mt.5
ConfigurationOfSwaUtil-mt.7
ConfigurationOfWidgets-mt.10

I put MorphicDesigner high on the list of projects for the FunSqueakCog i
doing (see attached pict) and plan release as Christmas present to all good
Squeakers and Pharopatas also.

Very thanks for the good work to all you in Postdam.

Edgar

On 12/4/10 9:44 AM, "Marcel Taeumel"
<[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hi.
>
> "ConfigurationOfDesigner project bleedingEdge load."
>
> should work. I just forgot "project" in the wiki. ^_^
>
> Bye,
> Marcel


Works !!
Now i got Designer-mt.15.

And all we do "miskates" :=)

Edgar

P.S. What about a ConfigurationOfDesigner allAuxiliaryProjects bleedingEdge
load.
Seems you have smart students , exploring the squeaksource of yours.

Hello Tobias and otheres working on the 'Designer'

Yesterday I tried the first load script (for Squeak 4.2-10741) recommended on

https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects/wiki/designer

(Installer mc http: 'http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/')
   project: 'MetacelloRepository';
   install: 'ConfigurationOfDesigner'.
ConfigurationOfDesigner project bleedingEdge load.

It claimed that #bleedingEdge  is not known.

I assume this has changed in the meantime I have to use something else
to get the designer loaded, right?

Thank you for the answer in advance

--Hannes




On 12/4/10, Edgar J. De Cleene <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi.

It should work with "ConfigurationOfDesigner-mt.7". Actually, there was a
mistake in the wiki a few days ago that stated:

"ConfigurationOfDesigner bleedingEdge load."

which caused a DNU because #bleedingEdge is unknown to
ConfigurationOfDesigner. Only MetacelloProject understand that message. At
the moment, this mistake was corrected to:

"ConfigurationOfDesigner project bleedingEdge load."

I just tried it out as you did yesterday. Works for me. Who gets the DNU in
your case?

Bye,
Marcel Taeumel

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Hirzel
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Builder, ...) at Software Architecture Group

Hello Tobias and otheres working on the 'Designer'

Yesterday I tried the first load script (for Squeak 4.2-10741) recommended
on

https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects/wiki/
designer

(Installer mc http:
'http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/')
   project: 'MetacelloRepository';
   install: 'ConfigurationOfDesigner'.
ConfigurationOfDesigner project bleedingEdge load.

It claimed that #bleedingEdge  is not known.

I assume this has changed in the meantime I have to use something else
to get the designer loaded, right?

Thank you for the answer in advance

--Hannes




On 12/4/10, Edgar J. De Cleene <[hidden email]> wrote: bleedingEdge
> load.
> Seems you have smart students , exploring the squeaksource of yours.
>
>
>
>

Hi.

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote:
I ran into this as well.  The problem is that the full metacello and
gopher and whatnot isn't loaded into Squeak 4.2 by default, and needs
to be loaded first.

Try runinng the first statement (first 3 lines), then just run
   ConfigurationOfDesigner project
once that is finished, finally run the full last line
   ConfigurationOfDesigner project bleedingEdge load.
That should do the trick.

-Chris

On 12/08/2010 08:36 AM, Chris Cunningham wrote:
It may also be a case that you've got an earlier version of Metacello
loaded. The #bleedingEdge message was introduced in Metacello
1.0-beta.27.4. You can tell which version of Metacello is loaded by
printing:

   ConfigurationOfMetacello project currentVersion

To update to the latest version (assuming that Metacello _is_ loaded):

   ConfigurationOfMetacello project updateProject.
   ConfigurationOfMetacello project loadLatestVersion.

Dale

Or just run the code as I said:

"ConfigurationOfDesigner project bleedingEdge load."

and confirm using #bleedingEdge if you are asked for. As the evaluation goes
from left to right, #bleedingEdge will be known after #project was sent to
ConfigurationOfDesigner because Metacello will be in your image then.

Bye,
Marcel Taeumel

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Builder, ...) at Software Architecture Group

On 12/08/2010 08:36 AM, Chris Cunningham wrote:
> Hi.
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:21 AM, Hannes Hirzel<[hidden email]>
wrote:
>> Hello Tobias and otheres working on the 'Designer'
>>
>> Yesterday I tried the first load script (for Squeak 4.2-10741)
recommended on
>>
>>
https://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/trac/SqueakCommunityProjects/wiki/
designer
>>
>> (Installer mc http:
'http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/')
It may also be a case that you've got an earlier version of Metacello
loaded. The #bleedingEdge message was introduced in Metacello
1.0-beta.27.4. You can tell which version of Metacello is loaded by
printing:

   ConfigurationOfMetacello project currentVersion

To update to the latest version (assuming that Metacello _is_ loaded):

   ConfigurationOfMetacello project updateProject.
   ConfigurationOfMetacello project loadLatestVersion.

Dale

Thank you all for your recommendations.


I loaded the Designer successfully into a Squeak4.2alpha-10794 (as of
today) image.


"First I evaluated"

   (Installer mc http: 'http://www.hpi.uni-potsdam.de/hirschfeld/squeaksource/')
     project: 'MetacelloRepository';
     install: 'ConfigurationOfDesigner'.


"Then I did an inspect of "

    ConfigurationOfDesigner project


"And then"
    ConfigurationOfDesigner project  bleedingEdge load.


After this the Designer is working.

--Hannes

On 12/8/10, Marcel Taeumel <[hidden email]> wrote: