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I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a problem completing the loading. 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak 4.1 trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) 2) Evaluate ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault 3) A warning pops up This package depends on the following classes: Announcer Announcement (I am not told which package ). Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? Thank you for the answer in advance. Hannes P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads quite a lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator is not known. GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it through other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this moment. I would just like to do a few simple examples to explore a net of objects. _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: About loading Glamour into Squeak 4.1
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Hello,
Glamour depends on Announcement, which is a part of Pharo Kernel. It is the new event Manager, which differs from Squeak. I don't know If it is portable in Squeak. Cheers, Jannik On May 29, 2010, at 13:46 , Hannes Hirzel wrote: > Hello > > I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a problem > completing the loading. > > 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak 4.1 > trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) > > 2) Evaluate > ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault > > 3) A warning pops up > This package depends on the following classes: > Announcer > Announcement > > (I am not told which package ). > > > Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? > > Thank you for the answer in advance. > > Hannes > > > P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads quite a > lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator is not > known. > > GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it through > other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this moment. I > would just like to do a few simple examples to explore a net of > objects. > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev --- Jannik Laval _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: About loading Glamour into Squeak 4.1
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Hi,
You can probably load the Announcement package separately from: MCHttpRepository location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements' user: '' password: '' I presume you will also encounter other problems due to Polymorph which exists by default in Pharo. So, you will also need to learn how to load that one. One idea would be to ask on the Pharo mailing list to see how they load it on top of the core image. Cheers, Doru On 29 May 2010, at 14:12, Laval Jannik wrote: > Hello, > > Glamour depends on Announcement, which is a part of Pharo Kernel. > It is the new event Manager, which differs from Squeak. > > I don't know If it is portable in Squeak. > > Cheers, > Jannik > > On May 29, 2010, at 13:46 , Hannes Hirzel wrote: > >> Hello >> >> I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a problem >> completing the loading. >> >> 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak 4.1 >> trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) >> >> 2) Evaluate >> ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault >> >> 3) A warning pops up >> This package depends on the following classes: >> Announcer >> Announcement >> >> (I am not told which package ). >> >> >> Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? >> >> Thank you for the answer in advance. >> >> Hannes >> >> >> P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads quite a >> lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator is >> not >> known. >> >> GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it >> through >> other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this moment. I >> would just like to do a few simple examples to explore a net of >> objects. >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > --- > Jannik Laval > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "What we can governs what we wish." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: About loading Glamour into Squeak 4.1
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>From my point of view,
It is more efficient to use Pharo and a stable system (Announcement + Glamour) than to try to port all the things to Squeak. Maybe, you have good reasons to do that. keep us informed of your choice, and if it work on Squeak. Cheers, Jannik On May 29, 2010, at 14:40 , Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > You can probably load the Announcement package separately from: > > MCHttpRepository > location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements' > user: '' > password: '' > > I presume you will also encounter other problems due to Polymorph which exists by default in Pharo. So, you will also need to learn how to load that one. One idea would be to ask on the Pharo mailing list to see how they load it on top of the core image. > > Cheers, > Doru > > On 29 May 2010, at 14:12, Laval Jannik wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Glamour depends on Announcement, which is a part of Pharo Kernel. >> It is the new event Manager, which differs from Squeak. >> >> I don't know If it is portable in Squeak. >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik >> >> On May 29, 2010, at 13:46 , Hannes Hirzel wrote: >> >>> Hello >>> >>> I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a problem >>> completing the loading. >>> >>> 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak 4.1 >>> trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) >>> >>> 2) Evaluate >>> ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault >>> >>> 3) A warning pops up >>> This package depends on the following classes: >>> Announcer >>> Announcement >>> >>> (I am not told which package ). >>> >>> >>> Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? >>> >>> Thank you for the answer in advance. >>> >>> Hannes >>> >>> >>> P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads quite a >>> lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator is not >>> known. >>> >>> GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it through >>> other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this moment. I >>> would just like to do a few simple examples to explore a net of >>> objects. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> --- >> Jannik Laval >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "What we can governs what we wish." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev --- Jannik Laval _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: About loading Glamour into Squeak 4.1
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Thank you Doru and Jannik for your help so far
Currently I have my development works in Squeak - a lot of Projects. So I want to keep for the time being. We will see which obstacles arise. As of now I am just doing ConfigurationOfSeaside30 load in a test image. Of course this loads a lot but I want to work with Seaside in any case. So it does not matter in this case and it might satisfy preconditions which are not (yet) stated in ConfigurationOfGlamour. Then I want to go for the Lukas' Announcement package and try it again with Glamour. I saw that Glamour has a category 'Seaside'. I assume it is possible to build Seasides browsers with Glamour. --Hannes On 5/29/10, Laval Jannik <[hidden email]> wrote: > >From my point of view, > It is more efficient to use Pharo and a stable system (Announcement + > Glamour) than to try to port all the things to Squeak. > > Maybe, you have good reasons to do that. > keep us informed of your choice, and if it work on Squeak. > > Cheers, > Jannik > > > On May 29, 2010, at 14:40 , Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> You can probably load the Announcement package separately from: >> >> MCHttpRepository >> location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements' >> user: '' >> password: '' >> >> I presume you will also encounter other problems due to Polymorph which >> exists by default in Pharo. So, you will also need to learn how to load >> that one. One idea would be to ask on the Pharo mailing list to see how >> they load it on top of the core image. >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> On 29 May 2010, at 14:12, Laval Jannik wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Glamour depends on Announcement, which is a part of Pharo Kernel. >>> It is the new event Manager, which differs from Squeak. >>> >>> I don't know If it is portable in Squeak. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jannik >>> >>> On May 29, 2010, at 13:46 , Hannes Hirzel wrote: >>> >>>> Hello >>>> >>>> I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a problem >>>> completing the loading. >>>> >>>> 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak 4.1 >>>> trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) >>>> >>>> 2) Evaluate >>>> ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault >>>> >>>> 3) A warning pops up >>>> This package depends on the following classes: >>>> Announcer >>>> Announcement >>>> >>>> (I am not told which package ). >>>> >>>> >>>> Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? >>>> >>>> Thank you for the answer in advance. >>>> >>>> Hannes >>>> >>>> >>>> P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads quite a >>>> lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator is not >>>> known. >>>> >>>> GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it through >>>> other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this moment. I >>>> would just like to do a few simple examples to explore a net of >>>> objects. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> --- >>> Jannik Laval >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> -- >> www.tudorgirba.com >> >> "What we can governs what we wish." >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > --- > Jannik Laval > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: About loading Glamour into Squeak 4.1
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OK, this time it got one step further. It now complains about not
having classes which I assume are part of the package Polymorph. This package depends on the following classes: StandardWindow UIThemeWatery2 PluggableShoutMorph TabGroupMorph On 5/29/10, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: > Thank you Doru and Jannik for your help so far > > Currently I have my development works in Squeak - a lot of Projects. > So I want to keep for the time being. We will see which obstacles > arise. > > As of now I am just doing > > ConfigurationOfSeaside30 load > > in a test image. Of course this loads a lot but I want to work with > Seaside in any case. So it does not matter in this case and it might > satisfy preconditions which are not (yet) stated in > ConfigurationOfGlamour. > > Then I want to go for the Lukas' Announcement package and try it again > with Glamour. > > I saw that Glamour has a category 'Seaside'. I assume it is possible > to build Seasides browsers with Glamour. > > > --Hannes > > > On 5/29/10, Laval Jannik <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >From my point of view, >> It is more efficient to use Pharo and a stable system (Announcement + >> Glamour) than to try to port all the things to Squeak. >> >> Maybe, you have good reasons to do that. >> keep us informed of your choice, and if it work on Squeak. >> >> Cheers, >> Jannik >> >> >> On May 29, 2010, at 14:40 , Tudor Girba wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> You can probably load the Announcement package separately from: >>> >>> MCHttpRepository >>> location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements' >>> user: '' >>> password: '' >>> >>> I presume you will also encounter other problems due to Polymorph which >>> exists by default in Pharo. So, you will also need to learn how to load >>> that one. One idea would be to ask on the Pharo mailing list to see how >>> they load it on top of the core image. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Doru >>> >>> On 29 May 2010, at 14:12, Laval Jannik wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Glamour depends on Announcement, which is a part of Pharo Kernel. >>>> It is the new event Manager, which differs from Squeak. >>>> >>>> I don't know If it is portable in Squeak. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jannik >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2010, at 13:46 , Hannes Hirzel wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a problem >>>>> completing the loading. >>>>> >>>>> 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak 4.1 >>>>> trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) >>>>> >>>>> 2) Evaluate >>>>> ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault >>>>> >>>>> 3) A warning pops up >>>>> This package depends on the following classes: >>>>> Announcer >>>>> Announcement >>>>> >>>>> (I am not told which package ). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? >>>>> >>>>> Thank you for the answer in advance. >>>>> >>>>> Hannes >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads quite a >>>>> lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator is not >>>>> known. >>>>> >>>>> GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it through >>>>> other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this moment. I >>>>> would just like to do a few simple examples to explore a net of >>>>> objects. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Jannik Laval >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> -- >>> www.tudorgirba.com >>> >>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> >> --- >> Jannik Laval >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >> > Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: About loading Glamour into Squeak 4.1
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Hi,
These classes are indeed part of Polymorph: > StandardWindow > UIThemeWatery2 > TabGroupMorph This class is part of Shout: > PluggableShoutMorph Cheers, Doru On 29 May 2010, at 17:50, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > OK, this time it got one step further. It now complains about not > having classes which I assume are part of the package Polymorph. > > This package depends on the following classes: > StandardWindow > UIThemeWatery2 > PluggableShoutMorph > TabGroupMorph > > On 5/29/10, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Thank you Doru and Jannik for your help so far >> >> Currently I have my development works in Squeak - a lot of Projects. >> So I want to keep for the time being. We will see which obstacles >> arise. >> >> As of now I am just doing >> >> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 load >> >> in a test image. Of course this loads a lot but I want to work with >> Seaside in any case. So it does not matter in this case and it might >> satisfy preconditions which are not (yet) stated in >> ConfigurationOfGlamour. >> >> Then I want to go for the Lukas' Announcement package and try it >> again >> with Glamour. >> >> I saw that Glamour has a category 'Seaside'. I assume it is possible >> to build Seasides browsers with Glamour. >> >> >> --Hannes >> >> >> On 5/29/10, Laval Jannik <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> From my point of view, >>> It is more efficient to use Pharo and a stable system >>> (Announcement + >>> Glamour) than to try to port all the things to Squeak. >>> >>> Maybe, you have good reasons to do that. >>> keep us informed of your choice, and if it work on Squeak. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Jannik >>> >>> >>> On May 29, 2010, at 14:40 , Tudor Girba wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> You can probably load the Announcement package separately from: >>>> >>>> MCHttpRepository >>>> location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements' >>>> user: '' >>>> password: '' >>>> >>>> I presume you will also encounter other problems due to Polymorph >>>> which >>>> exists by default in Pharo. So, you will also need to learn how >>>> to load >>>> that one. One idea would be to ask on the Pharo mailing list to >>>> see how >>>> they load it on top of the core image. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Doru >>>> >>>> On 29 May 2010, at 14:12, Laval Jannik wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> Glamour depends on Announcement, which is a part of Pharo Kernel. >>>>> It is the new event Manager, which differs from Squeak. >>>>> >>>>> I don't know If it is portable in Squeak. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Jannik >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2010, at 13:46 , Hannes Hirzel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello >>>>>> >>>>>> I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a >>>>>> problem >>>>>> completing the loading. >>>>>> >>>>>> 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak >>>>>> 4.1 >>>>>> trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) >>>>>> >>>>>> 2) Evaluate >>>>>> ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault >>>>>> >>>>>> 3) A warning pops up >>>>>> This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>> Announcer >>>>>> Announcement >>>>>> >>>>>> (I am not told which package ). >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for the answer in advance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hannes >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads >>>>>> quite a >>>>>> lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator >>>>>> is not >>>>>> known. >>>>>> >>>>>> GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it >>>>>> through >>>>>> other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this >>>>>> moment. I >>>>>> would just like to do a few simple examples to explore a net of >>>>>> objects. >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Jannik Laval >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>> >>>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >>> --- >>> Jannik Laval >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Moose-dev mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev -- www.tudorgirba.com "Every thing has its own flow." _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: About loading Glamour into Squeak 4.1
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it is always difficult to have the butter and the money for the butter.
Stef On May 29, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > These classes are indeed part of Polymorph: >> StandardWindow >> UIThemeWatery2 >> TabGroupMorph > > This class is part of Shout: >> PluggableShoutMorph > > > Cheers, > Doru > > > > On 29 May 2010, at 17:50, Hannes Hirzel wrote: > >> OK, this time it got one step further. It now complains about not >> having classes which I assume are part of the package Polymorph. >> >> This package depends on the following classes: >> StandardWindow >> UIThemeWatery2 >> PluggableShoutMorph >> TabGroupMorph >> >> On 5/29/10, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Thank you Doru and Jannik for your help so far >>> >>> Currently I have my development works in Squeak - a lot of Projects. >>> So I want to keep for the time being. We will see which obstacles >>> arise. >>> >>> As of now I am just doing >>> >>> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 load >>> >>> in a test image. Of course this loads a lot but I want to work with >>> Seaside in any case. So it does not matter in this case and it might >>> satisfy preconditions which are not (yet) stated in >>> ConfigurationOfGlamour. >>> >>> Then I want to go for the Lukas' Announcement package and try it again >>> with Glamour. >>> >>> I saw that Glamour has a category 'Seaside'. I assume it is possible >>> to build Seasides browsers with Glamour. >>> >>> >>> --Hannes >>> >>> >>> On 5/29/10, Laval Jannik <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>> From my point of view, >>>> It is more efficient to use Pharo and a stable system (Announcement + >>>> Glamour) than to try to port all the things to Squeak. >>>> >>>> Maybe, you have good reasons to do that. >>>> keep us informed of your choice, and if it work on Squeak. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Jannik >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 29, 2010, at 14:40 , Tudor Girba wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> You can probably load the Announcement package separately from: >>>>> >>>>> MCHttpRepository >>>>> location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements' >>>>> user: '' >>>>> password: '' >>>>> >>>>> I presume you will also encounter other problems due to Polymorph which >>>>> exists by default in Pharo. So, you will also need to learn how to load >>>>> that one. One idea would be to ask on the Pharo mailing list to see how >>>>> they load it on top of the core image. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Doru >>>>> >>>>> On 29 May 2010, at 14:12, Laval Jannik wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Glamour depends on Announcement, which is a part of Pharo Kernel. >>>>>> It is the new event Manager, which differs from Squeak. >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know If it is portable in Squeak. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Jannik >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 29, 2010, at 13:46 , Hannes Hirzel wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a problem >>>>>>> completing the loading. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak 4.1 >>>>>>> trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2) Evaluate >>>>>>> ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3) A warning pops up >>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>>> Announcer >>>>>>> Announcement >>>>>>> >>>>>>> (I am not told which package ). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for the answer in advance. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hannes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads quite a >>>>>>> lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator is not >>>>>>> known. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it through >>>>>>> other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this moment. I >>>>>>> would just like to do a few simple examples to explore a net of >>>>>>> objects. >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>>> >>>>>> --- >>>>>> Jannik Laval >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> www.tudorgirba.com >>>>> >>>>> "What we can governs what we wish." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>>> --- >>>> Jannik Laval >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Moose-dev mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Moose-dev mailing list >> [hidden email] >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "Every thing has its own flow." > > > > _______________________________________________ > Moose-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev _______________________________________________ Moose-dev mailing list [hidden email] https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev |
Re: About loading Glamour into Squeak 4.1
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Hello
the report so far LOADING OF PACKAGES Load Seaside ConfigurationOfSeaside30 load got the Announcement package from Lukas MCHttpRepository location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements' user: '' password: '' Loaded Glamour ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault. RESULTS GLMSystemWindow is a subclass of StandardWindow (Pharo) wheras in Squeak there is SystemWindow. Glamour maintains a whole set of its own Morphic classes GLMActionAnnouncement GLMButtonModel GLMDropDownListMorphSelectionChanged GLMDropListModel GLMKeyStroke GLMMenuInvoked GLMMenuItemSelected GLMMorphTreeColumn GLMMorphic GLMMorphicModel GLMMorphicRenderer GLMPaneScroller GLMScrollPaneForHResize GLMSelectedTextChanged GLMSystemWindow GLMTextModel GLMTreeMorphModel GLMTreeMorphNodeModel GLMTreeMorphSelectionChanged GLMTreeMorphStrongSelectionChanged Glamour depends on PolyMorph and in particular the following Morphs are not in Squeak 4.1 PanelMorph LabelMorph They are not too difficult to add. More work is the dependency on Polymorph styles, themes, borderWith etc. However there is a package Glamour-Squeak which indicates that the designers of Glamour thought of making it compatible with Squeak. (It currently only contains one method). Of the four Seaside examples the 'file' example shows something but it does not work. Glamour-Tests 171 run, 166 passes , 4 expected failures, 0 failures, 1 error Glamour-Test-Morphic 48 run, 1 passes, 2 expected failures, 45 errors. Glamour-Examples 9 run, 9 errors CONCLUSION It seems that Glamour relies on additional methods added to Morphic which necessitate a compatibily layer or a rewrite of the Morphic view classes. As the Browser UI elements are pretty standard this should be possible without too much effort. In particular straightforward would be the 4 Seaside examples as Seaside works fine in Squeak 4.1. However one of the works partially. It could be that the Seaside examples are not working yet in Glamour either. However for the time being I will focus on manually constructing browsers with ToolBuilder in Squeak instead of working on a port. I assume that if I have got enough ToolBuilder examples (templates) that I will be pretty fast as well in constructing specialized Browsers - in particular Browsers which run on Squeak and Pharo. Maybe I will come back to this later as Glamour is an interesting piece of work. Thank you Doru and Laval for your help. This was an insightful exercise. Hannes On 5/29/10, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote: > it is always difficult to have the butter and the money for the butter. > > Stef > > On May 29, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Tudor Girba wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> These classes are indeed part of Polymorph: >>> StandardWindow >>> UIThemeWatery2 >>> TabGroupMorph >> >> This class is part of Shout: >>> PluggableShoutMorph >> >> >> Cheers, >> Doru >> >> >> >> On 29 May 2010, at 17:50, Hannes Hirzel wrote: >> >>> OK, this time it got one step further. It now complains about not >>> having classes which I assume are part of the package Polymorph. >>> >>> This package depends on the following classes: >>> StandardWindow >>> UIThemeWatery2 >>> PluggableShoutMorph >>> TabGroupMorph >>> >>> On 5/29/10, Hannes Hirzel <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Thank you Doru and Jannik for your help so far >>>> >>>> Currently I have my development works in Squeak - a lot of Projects. >>>> So I want to keep for the time being. We will see which obstacles >>>> arise. >>>> >>>> As of now I am just doing >>>> >>>> ConfigurationOfSeaside30 load >>>> >>>> in a test image. Of course this loads a lot but I want to work with >>>> Seaside in any case. So it does not matter in this case and it might >>>> satisfy preconditions which are not (yet) stated in >>>> ConfigurationOfGlamour. >>>> >>>> Then I want to go for the Lukas' Announcement package and try it again >>>> with Glamour. >>>> >>>> I saw that Glamour has a category 'Seaside'. I assume it is possible >>>> to build Seasides browsers with Glamour. >>>> >>>> >>>> --Hannes >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/29/10, Laval Jannik <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>>>> From my point of view, >>>>> It is more efficient to use Pharo and a stable system (Announcement + >>>>> Glamour) than to try to port all the things to Squeak. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe, you have good reasons to do that. >>>>> keep us informed of your choice, and if it work on Squeak. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Jannik >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On May 29, 2010, at 14:40 , Tudor Girba wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> You can probably load the Announcement package separately from: >>>>>> >>>>>> MCHttpRepository >>>>>> location: 'http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements' >>>>>> user: '' >>>>>> password: '' >>>>>> >>>>>> I presume you will also encounter other problems due to Polymorph >>>>>> which >>>>>> exists by default in Pharo. So, you will also need to learn how to >>>>>> load >>>>>> that one. One idea would be to ask on the Pharo mailing list to see >>>>>> how >>>>>> they load it on top of the core image. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Doru >>>>>> >>>>>> On 29 May 2010, at 14:12, Laval Jannik wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glamour depends on Announcement, which is a part of Pharo Kernel. >>>>>>> It is the new event Manager, which differs from Squeak. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't know If it is portable in Squeak. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Jannik >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 29, 2010, at 13:46 , Hannes Hirzel wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am trying to load Glamour into Squeak 4.1. but run into a problem >>>>>>>> completing the loading. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Use ConfigurationOfGlamour-tg.38.mcz (21 May 2010) in Squeak 4.1 >>>>>>>> trunk (or Squeak 4.2alpha updated) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) Evaluate >>>>>>>> ConfigurationOfGlamour loadDefault >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3) A warning pops up >>>>>>>> This package depends on the following classes: >>>>>>>> Announcer >>>>>>>> Announcement >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (I am not told which package ). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Question: Where do I find the class Announcer and Announcement? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you for the answer in advance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hannes >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> P.S. I tried to ignore this warning and proceeded. It loads quite a >>>>>>>> lot but the examples do not work because the class GLMTabulator is >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> known. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> GLMTabulator seems to be a central class. Maybe I can load it >>>>>>>> through >>>>>>>> other means. I do not necessarily need everyting at this moment. 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