About my recursive blues :)

>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 21:13:24 +0100
>From: St?phane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
>Subject: [Pharo-project] About my recursive blues :)
>To: "[hidden email] Development"
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>Hi guys
>
>Sometimes I'm not in good mood. Today I was in a bad bad mood. Quite bad even badder.
>I was wondering why I was doing all that and the rest. What was the use to do Pharo
>if we get Squeak doing exactly the same - Ok we were right long time ago but still seeing all the removal of
>crappy code we begged to be removed and got bashed for and also doing all that effort and seeing it redone
>was not helping. Being right sometimes is not even cool  :) So a plain bad day.... cold and rainy.
>I was frustrated that I cannot be somebody else, doing stuff full time and no other duties
>and going faster. In short nothing was working and I was a frustation ball like I'm good at being.
>
>But my kids were there and we had to go swimming! After going swimming and not thinking then thinking
>and discussing with some remote friends and emails. (Thanks guys you know who you are) also thinking about other
>people's attention and remarks in other contexts, my good mood came back even stronger than before
>because I came up to the conclusion that my remote friends were right (BTW thanks pharoers some of you inspire me today
>during my bad mood - alain, henrik, danny, lukas...)
>So what is the conclusion of all that?
>
> - I have a cool job (one of the best research positions in europe - not easy everyday
> but cool and with people supporting me with my crazy idea....imagine coding in smalltalk
> building an international team doing smalltalkish stuff).
>
> - we can invest for 5 years or even 10. Close your eyes and imagine we can decide now what
> we want to do now for the next 10 years and do it because we decided that this is fun.
> Amazing. No clients, no venture guys telling us the truth of life.
>
> - To a friend to which I was saying that I'm not that smart, that guy
> told me that smart is not the only measure: you can measure your impact,
> the books you wrote, the energy that other people took and got inspired
> and all kind of other measures.... :)
>
>So I can tell you I was down but this is good because I could think about what I really want to do.
>And I want to have an innovative Smalltalk system that can be used to develop business and innovative.
>(for example I would like to see if the new event system can be used to save Genie - one of the coolest
>handwriting recognition system I see).
>So I will not be extra-smart but I will learn and I will do it bit by bit. And I want to make it fun and beautiful.
>May be we will be able to go faster (it depends mainly on you guys :)) but I want 10 years or 15 or even 20
>years of fun with a cool system and it is there in my hand (at three keystrokes from my keuboard).
>We will build it.
>
>Stef (sorry for the one of you that have to listen my bad mood I'm curing myself).

> If you find yourself often saying things like, "Not now, Daddy's too busy.", pretty soon you will find they will stop coming around.
>
> Ken G. Brown
>
> At 9:37 PM +0100 1/6/10, [hidden email] apparently wrote:
>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 21:13:24 +0100
>> From: St?phane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
>> Subject: [Pharo-project] About my recursive blues :)
>> To: "[hidden email] Development"
>> <[hidden email]>
>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> Sometimes I'm not in good mood. Today I was in a bad bad mood. Quite bad even badder.
>> I was wondering why I was doing all that and the rest. What was the use to do Pharo
>> if we get Squeak doing exactly the same - Ok we were right long time ago but still seeing all the removal of
>> crappy code we begged to be removed and got bashed for and also doing all that effort and seeing it redone
>> was not helping. Being right sometimes is not even cool  :) So a plain bad day.... cold and rainy.
>> I was frustrated that I cannot be somebody else, doing stuff full time and no other duties
>> and going faster. In short nothing was working and I was a frustation ball like I'm good at being.
>>
>> But my kids were there and we had to go swimming! After going swimming and not thinking then thinking
>> and discussing with some remote friends and emails. (Thanks guys you know who you are) also thinking about other
>> people's attention and remarks in other contexts, my good mood came back even stronger than before
>> because I came up to the conclusion that my remote friends were right (BTW thanks pharoers some of you inspire me today
>> during my bad mood - alain, henrik, danny, lukas...)
>> So what is the conclusion of all that?
>>
>> - I have a cool job (one of the best research positions in europe - not easy everyday
>> but cool and with people supporting me with my crazy idea....imagine coding in smalltalk
>> building an international team doing smalltalkish stuff).
>>
>> - we can invest for 5 years or even 10. Close your eyes and imagine we can decide now what
>> we want to do now for the next 10 years and do it because we decided that this is fun.
>> Amazing. No clients, no venture guys telling us the truth of life.
>>
>> - To a friend to which I was saying that I'm not that smart, that guy
>> told me that smart is not the only measure: you can measure your impact,
>> the books you wrote, the energy that other people took and got inspired
>> and all kind of other measures.... :)
>>
>> So I can tell you I was down but this is good because I could think about what I really want to do.
>> And I want to have an innovative Smalltalk system that can be used to develop business and innovative.
>> (for example I would like to see if the new event system can be used to save Genie - one of the coolest
>> handwriting recognition system I see).
>> So I will not be extra-smart but I will learn and I will do it bit by bit. And I want to make it fun and beautiful.
>> May be we will be able to go faster (it depends mainly on you guys :)) but I want 10 years or 15 or even 20
>> years of fun with a cool system and it is there in my hand (at three keystrokes from my keuboard).
>> We will build it.
>>
>> Stef (sorry for the one of you that have to listen my bad mood I'm curing myself).
>
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>> To this point you have done what you have done. Now, to my mind at least,
>> if you could work out a way to bring the Squeak Trunk and Pharo forks,
>> and other developments like Keith's important work with Sake/Packages and
>> Bob the Builder, together so that so terribly much effort is not being
>> wasted doing the same things over and over again, you will really have
>> accomplished something.
>
> We will try but it takes a lot of energy. Also because Squeak is redoing a
> lot of the fixes/changes we did nearly one year
> ago. Now we will try to check the important changes.
>
>> And remember too that the most important thing you can give your children
>> is your undivided time and attention. All too soon they will be grown up
>> and on their own.
>
> I will :) I'm starting to play Magic The gathering with them :)
> and pharo is a kind of child too :)
>
>> If you find yourself often saying things like, "Not now, Daddy's too
>> busy.", pretty soon you will find they will stop coming around.
>>
>> Ken G. Brown
>>
>> At 9:37 PM +0100 1/6/10, [hidden email]
>> apparently wrote:
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 21:13:24 +0100
>>> From: St?phane Ducasse <[hidden email]>
>>> Subject: [Pharo-project] About my recursive blues :)
>>> To: "[hidden email] Development"
>>> <[hidden email]>
>>> Message-ID: <[hidden email]>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>
>>> Hi guys
>>>
>>> Sometimes I'm not in good mood. Today I was in a bad bad mood. Quite bad
>>> even badder.
>>> I was wondering why I was doing all that and the rest. What was the use
>>> to do Pharo
>>> if we get Squeak doing exactly the same - Ok we were right long time ago
>>> but still seeing all the removal of
>>> crappy code we begged to be removed and got bashed for and also doing
>>> all that effort and seeing it redone
>>> was not helping. Being right sometimes is not even cool  :) So a plain
>>> bad day.... cold and rainy.
>>> I was frustrated that I cannot be somebody else, doing stuff full time
>>> and no other duties
>>> and going faster. In short nothing was working and I was a frustation
>>> ball like I'm good at being.
>>>
>>> But my kids were there and we had to go swimming! After going swimming
>>> and not thinking then thinking
>>> and discussing with some remote friends and emails. (Thanks guys you
>>> know who you are) also thinking about other
>>> people's attention and remarks in other contexts, my good mood came back
>>> even stronger than before
>>> because I came up to the conclusion that my remote friends were right
>>> (BTW thanks pharoers some of you inspire me today
>>> during my bad mood - alain, henrik, danny, lukas...)
>>> So what is the conclusion of all that?
>>>
>>> - I have a cool job (one of the best research positions in europe - not
>>> easy everyday
>>> but cool and with people supporting me with my crazy idea....imagine
>>> coding in smalltalk
>>> building an international team doing smalltalkish stuff).
>>>
>>> - we can invest for 5 years or even 10. Close your eyes and imagine we
>>> can decide now what
>>> we want to do now for the next 10 years and do it because we decided
>>> that this is fun.
>>> Amazing. No clients, no venture guys telling us the truth of life.
>>>
>>> - To a friend to which I was saying that I'm not that smart, that guy
>>> told me that smart is not the only measure: you can measure your impact,
>>> the books you wrote, the energy that other people took and got inspired
>>> and all kind of other measures.... :)
>>>
>>> So I can tell you I was down but this is good because I could think
>>> about what I really want to do.
>>> And I want to have an innovative Smalltalk system that can be used to
>>> develop business and innovative.
>>> (for example I would like to see if the new event system can be used to
>>> save Genie - one of the coolest
>>> handwriting recognition system I see).
>>> So I will not be extra-smart but I will learn and I will do it bit by
>>> bit. And I want to make it fun and beautiful.
>>> May be we will be able to go faster (it depends mainly on you guys :))
>>> but I want 10 years or 15 or even 20
>>> years of fun with a cool system and it is there in my hand (at three
>>> keystrokes from my keuboard).
>>> We will build it.
>>>
>>> Stef (sorry for the one of you that have to listen my bad mood I'm
>>> curing myself).
>>
>>
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