About the collaborative pier

> Hi doru
>
>
> Can you change the setup of the pier to have a clear distinction  
> between chapter and section?
>> because it is really counter intuitive
>> we never know if we are editing a new table of contents, chapter or  
>> section.
>> Just now I edited again an entry in the table of contents and added  
>> a subsection when I wanted a section.
> Thanks. I would like to avoid losing time all the time.
>
> Stef
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> Cheers,
> Doru
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>
> On 17 Apr 2010, at 18:26, stephane ducasse wrote:
>
>> Hi doru
>>
>>
>> Can you change the setup of the pier to have a clear distinction between chapter and section?
>>> because it is really counter intuitive
>>> we never know if we are editing a new table of contents, chapter or section.
>>> Just now I edited again an entry in the table of contents and added a subsection when I wanted a section.
>> Thanks. I would like to avoid losing time all the time.
>>
>> Stef
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> On Apr 17, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
>
>> Hi Stef,
>>
>> No, I cannot :).
>>
>> There really is nothing magic, just one single rule: whenever you want to
>> add something, you will always add a child to the current page. So, if you
>> want to add a page/or whatever, just go to the place you want to add it
>> under and invoke add. That is it. What part of it is unclear?
>
> I do not know but it hurts me.
> There is something wrong in the ui. Else I would not have added twice in a
> rwo an entry in the table of contents, an section in the wrong place....
>
>
>> Now, when it comes to section/subsection, you should not care about that.
>> Adding a child to a chapter creates a  section. Adding a child to a
>> section creates a subsection. And so on.
>
> The problem is that I cannot decide how to spawn a new page or not. ok so
> for now I will not use subsection and hack something inside.
> I think that simon said the same, the contents is too chopped sometimes
> having a longer page is way better for the reading flow.
>
> Stef
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doru
>>
>>
>> On 17 Apr 2010, at 18:26, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> Hi doru
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you change the setup of the pier to have a clear distinction between
>>> chapter and section?
>>>> because it is really counter intuitive
>>>> we never know if we are editing a new table of contents, chapter or
>>>> section.
>>>> Just now I edited again an entry in the table of contents and added a
>>>> subsection when I wanted a section.
>>> Thanks. I would like to avoid losing time all the time.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>
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> How do I add a chapter? If I go to the root page* of the book I and
> click 'Add', I only get as choices
>
> -Book figure
> -Book portion
> -Book note
>
> Hannes
>
> It contains the text 'This is a book'.
>
> On 4/17/10, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stef,
>>>
>>> No, I cannot :).
>>>
>>> There really is nothing magic, just one single rule: whenever you want to
>>> add something, you will always add a child to the current page. So, if you
>>> want to add a page/or whatever, just go to the place you want to add it
>>> under and invoke add. That is it. What part of it is unclear?
>>
>> I do not know but it hurts me.
>> There is something wrong in the ui. Else I would not have added twice in a
>> rwo an entry in the table of contents, an section in the wrong place....
>>
>>
>>> Now, when it comes to section/subsection, you should not care about that.
>>> Adding a child to a chapter creates a  section. Adding a child to a
>>> section creates a subsection. And so on.
>>
>> The problem is that I cannot decide how to spawn a new page or not. ok so
>> for now I will not use subsection and hack something inside.
>> I think that simon said the same, the contents is too chopped sometimes
>> having a longer page is way better for the reading flow.
>>
>> Stef
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Doru
>>>
>>>
>>> On 17 Apr 2010, at 18:26, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you change the setup of the pier to have a clear distinction between
>>>> chapter and section?
>>>>> because it is really counter intuitive
>>>>> we never know if we are editing a new table of contents, chapter or
>>>>> section.
>>>>> Just now I edited again an entry in the table of contents and added a
>>>>> subsection when I wanted a section.
>>>> Thanks. I would like to avoid losing time all the time.
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
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>>>
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> On Apr 17, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Hannes Hirzel wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> I would appreciate as well a log of an example session. I just
>> installed Pier2 in Squeak 4.1 (Details see
>> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/pipermail/squeak-dev/2010-April/148970.html)
>
> Why don't use the pharo version?
> Why do you expect that people have time to maintain software for different
> version?
>
>
>> How do I add a chapter? If I go to the root page* of the book I and
>> click 'Add', I only get as choices
>>
>> -Book figure
>> -Book portion
>> -Book note
>>
>> Hannes
>>
>> It contains the text 'This is a book'.
>>
>> On 4/17/10, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2010, at 7:47 PM, Tudor Girba wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Stef,
>>>>
>>>> No, I cannot :).
>>>>
>>>> There really is nothing magic, just one single rule: whenever you want
>>>> to
>>>> add something, you will always add a child to the current page. So, if
>>>> you
>>>> want to add a page/or whatever, just go to the place you want to add it
>>>> under and invoke add. That is it. What part of it is unclear?
>>>
>>> I do not know but it hurts me.
>>> There is something wrong in the ui. Else I would not have added twice in
>>> a
>>> rwo an entry in the table of contents, an section in the wrong place....
>>>
>>>
>>>> Now, when it comes to section/subsection, you should not care about
>>>> that.
>>>> Adding a child to a chapter creates a  section. Adding a child to a
>>>> section creates a subsection. And so on.
>>>
>>> The problem is that I cannot decide how to spawn a new page or not. ok so
>>> for now I will not use subsection and hack something inside.
>>> I think that simon said the same, the contents is too chopped sometimes
>>> having a longer page is way better for the reading flow.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Doru
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Apr 2010, at 18:26, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi doru
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you change the setup of the pier to have a clear distinction
>>>>> between
>>>>> chapter and section?
>>>>>> because it is really counter intuitive
>>>>>> we never know if we are editing a new table of contents, chapter or
>>>>>> section.
>>>>>> Just now I edited again an entry in the table of contents and added a
>>>>>> subsection when I wanted a section.
>>>>> Thanks. I would like to avoid losing time all the time.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stef
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>>>>
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>>>>
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> Stef, Doru i have got confused as well with where pages get added. It
> makes sense once you understand what Pier is doing, but i have put too
> many pages in the wrong place.
>
> Anyway i have created a help chapter, with some tips.  Please feel
> free to correct or add more.
>
> cheers,
> Mike
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