I've started http://www.squeaksource.com/YUISeaside.html as a project to adapt YUI constructs for Seaside, in a manner similar to (but without conflict with, I hope) the Scriptalicious libraries already available. The initial release simply creates a library with no moving parts. If added to your application (must go first, as indicated in the comments), you get the YUI "reset-css-grid-basic" combination loaded from the Yahoo servers. (One of my goals is to ensure that I can also serve these locally similar to Scriptalicious.) Add the indicated markup, and you have yourself a nice 100%-wide cross-browser normalized layout. (Another near goal is to add a brush to hide the page layout mechanics.) Since this is needed by a client, I'll be making rapid releases, but driven specifically by client requirements. If you have an interest in working on this with me, please send me private email, and I'll set up a list or something. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Hi Randal,
some questions, > I've started http://www.squeaksource.com/YUISeaside.html as a > project to adapt YUI constructs for Seaside, in a manner > similar to (but without conflict with, I hope) the > Scriptalicious libraries already available. > Are you using the Scriptaculous js serializer or you achieve js code in some other way? > The initial release simply creates a library with no moving > parts. If added to your application (must go first, as > indicated in the comments), you get the YUI > "reset-css-grid-basic" combination loaded from the Yahoo > servers. (One of my goals is to ensure that I can also serve > these locally similar to > Scriptalicious.) Add the indicated markup, and you have > yourself a nice 100%-wide cross-browser normalized layout. > (Another near goal is to add a brush to hide the page layout > mechanics.) > component inside another? Cheers, Sebastian > Since this is needed by a client, I'll be making rapid > releases, but driven specifically by client requirements. If > you have an interest in working on this with me, please send > me private email, and I'll set up a list or something. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - > +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]> > <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and > open-enrollment Perl training! > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
Randal, I also have one very important question - any chance of you
and O'Reilly getting together to put out a Seaside book? That would be quite excellent! :-) Hugh On Dec 20, 2007 6:55 AM, Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> wrote: > Hi Randal, > > some questions, > > > I've started http://www.squeaksource.com/YUISeaside.html as a > > project to adapt YUI constructs for Seaside, in a manner > > similar to (but without conflict with, I hope) the > > Scriptalicious libraries already available. > > > Are you using the Scriptaculous js serializer or you achieve js code in some > other way? > > > The initial release simply creates a library with no moving > > parts. If added to your application (must go first, as > > indicated in the comments), you get the YUI > > "reset-css-grid-basic" combination loaded from the Yahoo > > servers. (One of my goals is to ensure that I can also serve > > these locally similar to > > Scriptalicious.) Add the indicated markup, and you have > > yourself a nice 100%-wide cross-browser normalized layout. > > (Another near goal is to add a brush to hide the page layout > > mechanics.) > > > This normalized layout is arbitrarily composable? Can you make one layouted > component inside another? > > Cheers, > > Sebastian > > > > Since this is needed by a client, I'll be making rapid > > releases, but driven specifically by client requirements. If > > you have an interest in working on this with me, please send > > me private email, and I'll set up a list or something. > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - > > +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]> > > <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and > > open-enrollment Perl training! > > _______________________________________________ > > seaside mailing list > > [hidden email] > > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > > _______________________________________________ > seaside mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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>>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Sastre <[hidden email]> writes:
Sebastian> Are you using the Scriptaculous js serializer or you achieve js Sebastian> code in some other way? I need to look at solutions in this area. Obviously, I'm lazy (using the Perl community definition :), so I plan on reusing and building on anything that works. Sebastian> This normalized layout is arbitrarily composable? Can you make one Sebastian> layouted component inside another? Yes. See http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/grids/. It's quite cool. And the big advantage is that it's tested across all "grade A" browsers. If you don't have time to test on 29 different browsers, Yahoo has already done the work *for* you. That's the advantage of YUI: it's what Yahoo is using internally for their own sites. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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>>>>> "Hugh" == Hugh Willson <[hidden email]> writes:
Hugh> Randal, I also have one very important question - any chance of you Hugh> and O'Reilly getting together to put out a Seaside book? That would Hugh> be quite excellent! :-) I can't comment on specific work in progress or recent conversations I've had in this area. :-) (Hi Chris!) However, Stonehenge is definitely working on industrial-grade presentations, consulting collateral, and training materials for Seaside. The more I see of what Seaside is doing and how it's built and the great team of people contributing to it, the more I'm convinced that it can be the next RoR, or better. And I'm betting a significant portion of Stonehenge's R&D on it in 2008. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
On 12/20/07 10:43 AM, "Randal L. Schwartz" <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > Hugh> Randal, I also have one very important question - any chance of you > Hugh> and O'Reilly getting together to put out a Seaside book? That would > Hugh> be quite excellent! :-) > > I can't comment on specific work in progress or recent conversations I've had > in this area. :-) (Hi Chris!) Hi Randal! _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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Wow, that's excellent! I couldn't agree more with you - I was a rails
convert, until I heard about a crazy framework called Seaside written in Smalltalk of all things! (actually, I first heard about it from you and Leo talking with Avi on FLOSS Weekly) I must say I was quite skeptical, having watched Java overcome Smalltalk way back when. Listening to you guys talk about Seaside though really struck a chord, and I decided I'd take a look (I had to blow the dust off of my "Discovering Smalltalk" book ... :-) Honestly though, I haven't touched any of my rails projects since that freakin' podcast - I've been completely submersed in Seaside, and loving it! Please, talk to Tim - "Hey Tim - remember when people only knew O'Reilly as the company that published the "Learning Perl" book? Guess what, I've got another great idea ...". :-) Hugh On Dec 20, 2007 10:43 AM, Randal L. Schwartz <[hidden email]> wrote: > >>>>> "Hugh" == Hugh Willson <[hidden email]> writes: > > Hugh> Randal, I also have one very important question - any chance of you > Hugh> and O'Reilly getting together to put out a Seaside book? That would > Hugh> be quite excellent! :-) > > I can't comment on specific work in progress or recent conversations I've had > in this area. :-) (Hi Chris!) > > However, Stonehenge is definitely working on industrial-grade presentations, > consulting collateral, and training materials for Seaside. The more I see of > what Seaside is doing and how it's built and the great team of people > contributing to it, the more I'm convinced that it can be the next RoR, or > better. And I'm betting a significant portion of Stonehenge's R&D on it in > 2008. > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > <[hidden email]> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/> > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! > seaside mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/seaside |
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