Aida 6.5 loading in Pharo 2.0!
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Aida 6.5 loading in Pharo 2.0!
 
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Janko wrote:
>One-click load of Aida from Configuration Browser is now possibl We manually make a copy of configs that are know to work for a specific Pharo version into a specific "/MetaRepoForPharoXX". This will be automated in the future with automatic validation, etc. So if Aida is really working in Pharo 2.0 then please make a copy of the sepcific ConfigurationOfAida mcz into ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 using the "Copy" button of the Monticello repo browser. This way it will appear in "Configurations" tab in configuration browser (containing the configs that are know to work). Currently Aidi is only in "Untrusted" since this is the repo for all configs (squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository) I also think it would be nice if you also - add a beginners workspace with "SwazooAida start." You can use spec postLoadDoIt: #postloadForCore:package: with postloadForCore: loader package: packageSpec Workspace openContents: 'SwazooAida start.' - or you add a menu entry and server start panel, have a look at ConfigurationOfPharoOnlineHelp for an example This way even a complete beginner can easily start just by loading Aida using the config browser in 2.0 and then "jump start" into the browser. Bye T. |
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And I thought 'Untrusted' was going to be renamed 'Community Supported'
or some such. Did that decision get changed or just slide through the cracks? On 02/27/2013 08:00 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: > Janko wrote: >> One-click load of Aida from Configuration Browser is now possibl > > > We manually make a copy of configs that are know to work for a specific > Pharo version into a specific "/MetaRepoForPharoXX". This will be automated in the future > with automatic validation, etc. > > So if Aida is really working in Pharo 2.0 then please make a copy of the sepcific > ConfigurationOfAida mcz into ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 > using the "Copy" button of the Monticello repo browser. > > This way it will appear in "Configurations" tab in configuration browser > (containing the configs that are know to work). > > Currently Aidi is only in "Untrusted" since this is the repo for all configs > (squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository) > > > I also think it would be nice if you also > > - add a beginners workspace with "SwazooAida start." > You can use > > spec postLoadDoIt: #postloadForCore:package: > > with > postloadForCore: loader package: packageSpec > > Workspace openContents: 'SwazooAida start.' > > - or you add a menu entry and server start panel, have a look at ConfigurationOfPharoOnlineHelp for an example > > This way even a complete beginner can easily start just by > loading Aida using the config browser in 2.0 and then "jump start" into the browser. > > Bye > T. > |
Re: Aida 6.5 loading in Pharo 2.0!
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On 27 Feb 2013, at 17:07, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: > And I thought 'Untrusted' was going to be renamed 'Community Supported' > or some such. Did that decision get changed or just slide through the > cracks? Yes, I think that should be done, untrusted is a bit negative. The configuration browser is also too minimal right now, and a bit confusing. We should try to come up with more user friendly phrases on the menu. It would also be quite useful if the CB knew if a config was present and/or loaded. A way to browse the config code would also be welcome. > On 02/27/2013 08:00 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> Janko wrote: >>> One-click load of Aida from Configuration Browser is now possibl >> >> >> We manually make a copy of configs that are know to work for a specific >> Pharo version into a specific "/MetaRepoForPharoXX". This will be automated in the future >> with automatic validation, etc. >> >> So if Aida is really working in Pharo 2.0 then please make a copy of the sepcific >> ConfigurationOfAida mcz into ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 >> using the "Copy" button of the Monticello repo browser. >> >> This way it will appear in "Configurations" tab in configuration browser >> (containing the configs that are know to work). >> >> Currently Aidi is only in "Untrusted" since this is the repo for all configs >> (squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository) >> >> >> I also think it would be nice if you also >> >> - add a beginners workspace with "SwazooAida start." >> You can use >> >> spec postLoadDoIt: #postloadForCore:package: >> >> with >> postloadForCore: loader package: packageSpec >> >> Workspace openContents: 'SwazooAida start.' >> >> - or you add a menu entry and server start panel, have a look at ConfigurationOfPharoOnlineHelp for an example >> >> This way even a complete beginner can easily start just by >> loading Aida using the config browser in 2.0 and then "jump start" into the browser. >> >> Bye >> T. >> > > |
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On 27 February 2013 17:28, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On 27 Feb 2013, at 17:07, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: > >> And I thought 'Untrusted' was going to be renamed 'Community Supported' >> or some such. Did that decision get changed or just slide through the >> cracks? > > Yes, I think that should be done, untrusted is a bit negative. > +1 perhaps author meant 'Unofficial', because untrusted is really scary :) but i think 'Community Supported' is most precise. > The configuration browser is also too minimal right now, and a bit confusing. > > We should try to come up with more user friendly phrases on the menu. > > It would also be quite useful if the CB knew if a config was present and/or loaded. > > A way to browse the config code would also be welcome. > >> On 02/27/2013 08:00 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>> Janko wrote: >>>> One-click load of Aida from Configuration Browser is now possibl >>> >>> >>> We manually make a copy of configs that are know to work for a specific >>> Pharo version into a specific "/MetaRepoForPharoXX". This will be automated in the future >>> with automatic validation, etc. >>> >>> So if Aida is really working in Pharo 2.0 then please make a copy of the sepcific >>> ConfigurationOfAida mcz into ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 >>> using the "Copy" button of the Monticello repo browser. >>> >>> This way it will appear in "Configurations" tab in configuration browser >>> (containing the configs that are know to work). >>> >>> Currently Aidi is only in "Untrusted" since this is the repo for all configs >>> (squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository) >>> >>> >>> I also think it would be nice if you also >>> >>> - add a beginners workspace with "SwazooAida start." >>> You can use >>> >>> spec postLoadDoIt: #postloadForCore:package: >>> >>> with >>> postloadForCore: loader package: packageSpec >>> >>> Workspace openContents: 'SwazooAida start.' >>> >>> - or you add a menu entry and server start panel, have a look at ConfigurationOfPharoOnlineHelp for an example >>> >>> This way even a complete beginner can easily start just by >>> loading Aida using the config browser in 2.0 and then "jump start" into the browser. >>> >>> Bye >>> T. >>> >> >> > > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko. |
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Yes, I positively hate the 'Untrusted' word.
Weren't we talkin about extras/contrib and stuff? Isn't that the right terminology to align with that tab? Another question: Why can't we put those things in Smalltalkhub as well? Phil 2013/2/27 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>: > On 27 February 2013 17:28, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> On 27 Feb 2013, at 17:07, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >>> And I thought 'Untrusted' was going to be renamed 'Community Supported' >>> or some such. Did that decision get changed or just slide through the >>> cracks? >> >> Yes, I think that should be done, untrusted is a bit negative. >> > +1 > > perhaps author meant 'Unofficial', because untrusted is really scary :) > > but i think 'Community Supported' is most precise. > >> The configuration browser is also too minimal right now, and a bit confusing. >> >> We should try to come up with more user friendly phrases on the menu. >> >> It would also be quite useful if the CB knew if a config was present and/or loaded. >> >> A way to browse the config code would also be welcome. >> >>> On 02/27/2013 08:00 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>>> Janko wrote: >>>>> One-click load of Aida from Configuration Browser is now possibl >>>> >>>> >>>> We manually make a copy of configs that are know to work for a specific >>>> Pharo version into a specific "/MetaRepoForPharoXX". This will be automated in the future >>>> with automatic validation, etc. >>>> >>>> So if Aida is really working in Pharo 2.0 then please make a copy of the sepcific >>>> ConfigurationOfAida mcz into ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 >>>> using the "Copy" button of the Monticello repo browser. >>>> >>>> This way it will appear in "Configurations" tab in configuration browser >>>> (containing the configs that are know to work). >>>> >>>> Currently Aidi is only in "Untrusted" since this is the repo for all configs >>>> (squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository) >>>> >>>> >>>> I also think it would be nice if you also >>>> >>>> - add a beginners workspace with "SwazooAida start." >>>> You can use >>>> >>>> spec postLoadDoIt: #postloadForCore:package: >>>> >>>> with >>>> postloadForCore: loader package: packageSpec >>>> >>>> Workspace openContents: 'SwazooAida start.' >>>> >>>> - or you add a menu entry and server start panel, have a look at ConfigurationOfPharoOnlineHelp for an example >>>> >>>> This way even a complete beginner can easily start just by >>>> loading Aida using the config browser in 2.0 and then "jump start" into the browser. >>>> >>>> Bye >>>> T. >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko. > > |
Re: Aida 6.5 loading in Pharo 2.0!
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Hi Paul
Not really, we are just running after bugs and trying to squeeze them. Esteban is pushing the release like a bull. Igor is trying to find a find to reproduce a bug trashing the vm notably randomly on network access. Really not fun. After the bug on the become: And igor is looking at Delay startUp code with morbid ideas. Reading Delay startup and startEventloop initialization code gets dizzy. I think that Igor will rewrite all the code for 3.0 because it looks that they are many ways to get wrong there. Stef On Feb 27, 2013, at 5:07 PM, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: > And I thought 'Untrusted' was going to be renamed 'Community Supported' > or some such. Did that decision get changed or just slide through the > cracks? > > > On 02/27/2013 08:00 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >> Janko wrote: >>> One-click load of Aida from Configuration Browser is now possibl >> >> >> We manually make a copy of configs that are know to work for a specific >> Pharo version into a specific "/MetaRepoForPharoXX". This will be automated in the future >> with automatic validation, etc. >> >> So if Aida is really working in Pharo 2.0 then please make a copy of the sepcific >> ConfigurationOfAida mcz into ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 >> using the "Copy" button of the Monticello repo browser. >> >> This way it will appear in "Configurations" tab in configuration browser >> (containing the configs that are know to work). >> >> Currently Aidi is only in "Untrusted" since this is the repo for all configs >> (squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository) >> >> >> I also think it would be nice if you also >> >> - add a beginners workspace with "SwazooAida start." >> You can use >> >> spec postLoadDoIt: #postloadForCore:package: >> >> with >> postloadForCore: loader package: packageSpec >> >> Workspace openContents: 'SwazooAida start.' >> >> - or you add a menu entry and server start panel, have a look at ConfigurationOfPharoOnlineHelp for an example >> >> This way even a complete beginner can easily start just by >> loading Aida using the config browser in 2.0 and then "jump start" into the browser. >> >> Bye >> T. >> > > |
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Phil
I started to migrate the projects I will maintain to PharoExtras. If other people maintain other projects then they can host them there. I will try to create a jenkins job for each of the project but it means quite some boring tasks - creating configuration - testing them - creating jnkins job. I will do it but it will take some time. Kind of a long effort but I think it is important to do it. Stef > Yes, I positively hate the 'Untrusted' word. > > Weren't we talkin about extras/contrib and stuff? Isn't that the right > terminology to align with that tab? > > Another question: Why can't we put those things in Smalltalkhub as well? > > Phil > > 2013/2/27 Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]>: >> On 27 February 2013 17:28, Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>> On 27 Feb 2013, at 17:07, Paul DeBruicker <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> >>>> And I thought 'Untrusted' was going to be renamed 'Community Supported' >>>> or some such. Did that decision get changed or just slide through the >>>> cracks? >>> >>> Yes, I think that should be done, untrusted is a bit negative. >>> >> +1 >> >> perhaps author meant 'Unofficial', because untrusted is really scary :) >> >> but i think 'Community Supported' is most precise. >> >>> The configuration browser is also too minimal right now, and a bit confusing. >>> >>> We should try to come up with more user friendly phrases on the menu. >>> >>> It would also be quite useful if the CB knew if a config was present and/or loaded. >>> >>> A way to browse the config code would also be welcome. >>> >>>> On 02/27/2013 08:00 AM, Torsten Bergmann wrote: >>>>> Janko wrote: >>>>>> One-click load of Aida from Configuration Browser is now possibl >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We manually make a copy of configs that are know to work for a specific >>>>> Pharo version into a specific "/MetaRepoForPharoXX". This will be automated in the future >>>>> with automatic validation, etc. >>>>> >>>>> So if Aida is really working in Pharo 2.0 then please make a copy of the sepcific >>>>> ConfigurationOfAida mcz into ss3.gemstone.com/ss/MetaRepoForPharo20 >>>>> using the "Copy" button of the Monticello repo browser. >>>>> >>>>> This way it will appear in "Configurations" tab in configuration browser >>>>> (containing the configs that are know to work). >>>>> >>>>> Currently Aidi is only in "Untrusted" since this is the repo for all configs >>>>> (squeaksource.com/MetacelloRepository) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I also think it would be nice if you also >>>>> >>>>> - add a beginners workspace with "SwazooAida start." >>>>> You can use >>>>> >>>>> spec postLoadDoIt: #postloadForCore:package: >>>>> >>>>> with >>>>> postloadForCore: loader package: packageSpec >>>>> >>>>> Workspace openContents: 'SwazooAida start.' >>>>> >>>>> - or you add a menu entry and server start panel, have a look at ConfigurationOfPharoOnlineHelp for an example >>>>> >>>>> This way even a complete beginner can easily start just by >>>>> loading Aida using the config browser in 2.0 and then "jump start" into the browser. >>>>> >>>>> Bye >>>>> T. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko. >> >> > |
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