Aida-based single page web application

> Hello all,
>
> I have just deployed a testing version of a single-page web
> application based on Aida/Web framework, CellStore/XML database and
> Smalltalk/X platform.
> It is a web client for the XML database, that introduces some
> interesting (I hope) things that can be done with Aida.
>
> - support for complete AJAX updating (callback links, automatic
> detection of updated elements, unlimited number of elements updated
> after single AJAX request)
> - integration of reallysimplehistory into Aida (back button support
> for AJAX applications)
> - form elements with custom conversion, validation and failure handling
> - AJAX form submitting
> - support for both modern and text browsers
>
> Download page for document that describes the web client, the most
> important part is chapter 7 - Implementation:
> http://cellstore.felk.cvut.cz/browser/doc/graduate_theses/Jaroslav_Havlin/havlin_thesis.pdf
> (I'm sorry for my English)
>
> HTML version of the document:
> http://www.havlin.info/node7.html#SECTION00710000000000000000
>
>
> ! Live demo (At least I hope it is going to be alive for a while :-) ):
> http://174.143.26.45:8080/
>
> (Please, do not upload big files. Only XML files are supported so far.
> The page was tested with Firefox and MSIE browsers. With Firefox it
> works, with MSIE not.
> The database does not support concurrent users, and it may cause problems.
> Concurrent usage has not been tested yet - please, be tolerant if
> something fails.
> Reloading the page can sometimes solve one's problems)
>
> Source code:
> http://sites.google.com/site/jaroslavhavlin/cellstore,
> http://cellstore.felk.cvut.cz/browser/service_http/trunk
>
> The application stores the state on the server-side, which brings many
> disadvantages. But it makes partial page updating very simple.
> Any comments and suggestions welcome.
> I will be glad if you let me know what you think.
>
> Best wishes,
>  Jarda

> Ahoj Jarda,
>
> Well, that was something, an unexpectedly perfect event when I saw  
> your
> mail and looked at your thesis. It contains almost a book about Aida!
> And so fresh and intellectually honest view on it. I must say I  
> enjoyed
> reading every line. And I learned a lot by myself about Aida. Yep,
> really, a perfect mirror. I still need to look closer at your web app
> but from what I saw and read so far it is a really valuable  
> contribution
> to Aida.
>
> Thanks you a lot for all your work and I hope you'll continue in the
> future too. As Herbert already said the next step would be that you,
> Aleks and Herbert look together about your approaches to action blocks
> (callbacks), so that we will come out with one and as best as possible
> solution. I'll also look about your validation support, which is in my
> mind for a while, and of course Ajax multi-element update support,
> that's something we need to address soon too.
>
> What can be helpful for you already is a new execution context support
> in beta2. Also the complete isolation of Ajax requests is solved now  
> (no
> more relying on #lastRequest and lastApp), so just by porting to beta2
> can solve many of problems you mentioned.
>
> So far for now, more later...
>
> Best regards
> Janko
>
> Jaroslav Havlín pravi:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have just deployed a testing version of a single-page web
>> application based on Aida/Web framework, CellStore/XML database and
>> Smalltalk/X platform.
>> It is a web client for the XML database, that introduces some
>> interesting (I hope) things that can be done with Aida.
>>
>> - support for complete AJAX updating (callback links, automatic
>> detection of updated elements, unlimited number of elements updated
>> after single AJAX request)
>> - integration of reallysimplehistory into Aida (back button support
>> for AJAX applications)
>> - form elements with custom conversion, validation and failure  
>> handling
>> - AJAX form submitting
>> - support for both modern and text browsers
>>
>> Download page for document that describes the web client, the most
>> important part is chapter 7 - Implementation:
>> http://cellstore.felk.cvut.cz/browser/doc/graduate_theses/Jaroslav_Havlin/havlin_thesis.pdf
>> (I'm sorry for my English)
>>
>> HTML version of the document:
>> http://www.havlin.info/node7.html#SECTION00710000000000000000
>>
>>
>> ! Live demo (At least I hope it is going to be alive for a  
>> while :-) ):
>> http://174.143.26.45:8080/
>>
>> (Please, do not upload big files. Only XML files are supported so  
>> far.
>> The page was tested with Firefox and MSIE browsers. With Firefox it
>> works, with MSIE not.
>> The database does not support concurrent users, and it may cause  
>> problems.
>> Concurrent usage has not been tested yet - please, be tolerant if
>> something fails.
>> Reloading the page can sometimes solve one's problems)
>>
>> Source code:
>> http://sites.google.com/site/jaroslavhavlin/cellstore,
>> http://cellstore.felk.cvut.cz/browser/service_http/trunk
>>
>> The application stores the state on the server-side, which brings  
>> many
>> disadvantages. But it makes partial page updating very simple.
>> Any comments and suggestions welcome.
>> I will be glad if you let me know what you think.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Jarda
>
>
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
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>
> El 17/05/2009, a las 11:42, Janko Mivšek escribió:
>
>> Ahoj Jarda,
>>
>> Well, that was something, an unexpectedly perfect event when I saw  
>> your
>> mail and looked at your thesis. It contains almost a book about Aida!
>> And so fresh and intellectually honest view on it. I must say I  
>> enjoyed
>> reading every line. And I learned a lot by myself about Aida. Yep,
>> really, a perfect mirror. I still need to look closer at your web app
>> but from what I saw and read so far it is a really valuable  
>> contribution
>> to Aida.
>>
>> Thanks you a lot for all your work and I hope you'll continue in the
>> future too. As Herbert already said the next step would be that you,
>> Aleks and Herbert look together about your approaches to action blocks
>> (callbacks), so that we will come out with one and as best as possible
>> solution. I'll also look about your validation support, which is in my
>> mind for a while, and of course Ajax multi-element update support,
>> that's something we need to address soon too.
>>
>> What can be helpful for you already is a new execution context support
>> in beta2. Also the complete isolation of Ajax requests is solved now  
>> (no
>> more relying on #lastRequest and lastApp), so just by porting to beta2
>> can solve many of problems you mentioned.
>>
>> So far for now, more later...
>>
>> Best regards
>> Janko
>>
>> Jaroslav Havlín pravi:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I have just deployed a testing version of a single-page web
>>> application based on Aida/Web framework, CellStore/XML database and
>>> Smalltalk/X platform.
>>> It is a web client for the XML database, that introduces some
>>> interesting (I hope) things that can be done with Aida.
>>>
>>> - support for complete AJAX updating (callback links, automatic
>>> detection of updated elements, unlimited number of elements updated
>>> after single AJAX request)
>>> - integration of reallysimplehistory into Aida (back button support
>>> for AJAX applications)
>>> - form elements with custom conversion, validation and failure  
>>> handling
>>> - AJAX form submitting
>>> - support for both modern and text browsers
>>>
>>> Download page for document that describes the web client, the most
>>> important part is chapter 7 - Implementation:
>>> http://cellstore.felk.cvut.cz/browser/doc/graduate_theses/Jaroslav_Havlin/havlin_thesis.pdf
>>> (I'm sorry for my English)
>>>
>>> HTML version of the document:
>>> http://www.havlin.info/node7.html#SECTION00710000000000000000
>>>
>>>
>>> ! Live demo (At least I hope it is going to be alive for a  
>>> while :-) ):
>>> http://174.143.26.45:8080/
>>>
>>> (Please, do not upload big files. Only XML files are supported so  
>>> far.
>>> The page was tested with Firefox and MSIE browsers. With Firefox it
>>> works, with MSIE not.
>>> The database does not support concurrent users, and it may cause  
>>> problems.
>>> Concurrent usage has not been tested yet - please, be tolerant if
>>> something fails.
>>> Reloading the page can sometimes solve one's problems)
>>>
>>> Source code:
>>> http://sites.google.com/site/jaroslavhavlin/cellstore,
>>> http://cellstore.felk.cvut.cz/browser/service_http/trunk
>>>
>>> The application stores the state on the server-side, which brings  
>>> many
>>> disadvantages. But it makes partial page updating very simple.
>>> Any comments and suggestions welcome.
>>> I will be glad if you let me know what you think.
>>>
>>> Best wishes,
>>> Jarda

> Giuseppe Luigi Punzi Ruiz pravi:
>
>> I think you can add the thesis to the Documentation section as an
>> example of modelling a real application with Aida/web.
>
> Good idea. Jaroslav, is there a final version of your thesis or should
> we wait a bit?
>
>> I only had time to see the PDF a little, but looks very good documented.
>
> Indeed. And if Jaroslav make Aida part as a standalone article, this
> would be just perfect :)
>
> Janko
>
>
>>
>> El 17/05/2009, a las 11:42, Janko Mivšek escribió:
>>
>>> Ahoj Jarda,
>>>
>>> Well, that was something, an unexpectedly perfect event when I saw
>>> your
>>> mail and looked at your thesis. It contains almost a book about Aida!
>>> And so fresh and intellectually honest view on it. I must say I
>>> enjoyed
>>> reading every line. And I learned a lot by myself about Aida. Yep,
>>> really, a perfect mirror. I still need to look closer at your web app
>>> but from what I saw and read so far it is a really valuable
>>> contribution
>>> to Aida.
>>>
>>> Thanks you a lot for all your work and I hope you'll continue in the
>>> future too. As Herbert already said the next step would be that you,
>>> Aleks and Herbert look together about your approaches to action blocks
>>> (callbacks), so that we will come out with one and as best as possible
>>> solution. I'll also look about your validation support, which is in my
>>> mind for a while, and of course Ajax multi-element update support,
>>> that's something we need to address soon too.
>>>
>>> What can be helpful for you already is a new execution context support
>>> in beta2. Also the complete isolation of Ajax requests is solved now
>>> (no
>>> more relying on #lastRequest and lastApp), so just by porting to beta2
>>> can solve many of problems you mentioned.
>>>
>>> So far for now, more later...
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Janko
>>>
>>> Jaroslav Havlín pravi:
>>>> Hello all,
>>>>
>>>> I have just deployed a testing version of a single-page web
>>>> application based on Aida/Web framework, CellStore/XML database and
>>>> Smalltalk/X platform.
>>>> It is a web client for the XML database, that introduces some
>>>> interesting (I hope) things that can be done with Aida.
>>>>
>>>> - support for complete AJAX updating (callback links, automatic
>>>> detection of updated elements, unlimited number of elements updated
>>>> after single AJAX request)
>>>> - integration of reallysimplehistory into Aida (back button support
>>>> for AJAX applications)
>>>> - form elements with custom conversion, validation and failure
>>>> handling
>>>> - AJAX form submitting
>>>> - support for both modern and text browsers
>>>>
>>>> Download page for document that describes the web client, the most
>>>> important part is chapter 7 - Implementation:
>>>> http://cellstore.felk.cvut.cz/browser/doc/graduate_theses/Jaroslav_Havlin/havlin_thesis.pdf
>>>> (I'm sorry for my English)
>>>>
>>>> HTML version of the document:
>>>> http://www.havlin.info/node7.html#SECTION00710000000000000000
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ! Live demo (At least I hope it is going to be alive for a
>>>> while :-) ):
>>>> http://174.143.26.45:8080/
>>>>
>>>> (Please, do not upload big files. Only XML files are supported so
>>>> far.
>>>> The page was tested with Firefox and MSIE browsers. With Firefox it
>>>> works, with MSIE not.
>>>> The database does not support concurrent users, and it may cause
>>>> problems.
>>>> Concurrent usage has not been tested yet - please, be tolerant if
>>>> something fails.
>>>> Reloading the page can sometimes solve one's problems)
>>>>
>>>> Source code:
>>>> http://sites.google.com/site/jaroslavhavlin/cellstore,
>>>> http://cellstore.felk.cvut.cz/browser/service_http/trunk
>>>>
>>>> The application stores the state on the server-side, which brings
>>>> many
>>>> disadvantages. But it makes partial page updating very simple.
>>>> Any comments and suggestions welcome.
>>>> I will be glad if you let me know what you think.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes,
>>>> Jarda
>
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si
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