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Amber vs PharoJS

horrido
Integrating with Angular would be a major differentiator from PharoJS, as I think it would be very difficult for PharoJS to do this.

In what other ways might Amber differentiate itself from PharoJS? Please give me your thoughts.

Thanks.

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Re: Amber vs PharoJS

peter.ode
One of the key strengths of Smalltalk is debugger, not to mention all the other development tools. For me, the debugging experience will determine which of Amber or PharoJS will be my long-term Smalltalk-on-Javascript-runtime technology choice.

Amber does have much more potential, as it lives in the browser, can integrate JS libraries such as Angular (Yes!) and be less bound by things Pharo.  I have not looked into PharoJS in detail, but would love to have a better development + debugging experience with Amber.  This is key in my mind.

On Wednesday, 14 October 2015 05:27:08 UTC-7, Richard Eng wrote:
Integrating with Angular would be a major differentiator from PharoJS, as I think it would be very difficult for PharoJS to do this.

In what other ways might Amber differentiate itself from PharoJS? Please give me your thoughts.

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Re: Amber vs PharoJS

Martin Bähr
Excerpts from Peter's message of 2015-10-15 20:11:11 +0200:
> One of the key strengths of Smalltalk is debugger, not to mention all the
> other development tools. For me, the debugging experience will determine
> which of Amber or PharoJS will be my long-term
> Smalltalk-on-Javascript-runtime technology choice.
>
> Amber does have much more potential, as it lives in the browser, can
> integrate JS libraries such as Angular (Yes!) and be less bound by things
> Pharo.  I have not looked into PharoJS in detail, but would love to have a *better
> development + debugging experience with Amber.  This is key in my mind.*

if PharoJS doesn't integrate with javascript libraries, then that would be a
non-starter for me.

for amber, as much as i love having a great IDE in the browser,
unfortunately when i tried it, it took more resources than my small laptop (1GB
ram, 1GHz cpu, no swap) could handle. that same laptop runs pharo just fine.
(to be fair though the problem is really that the browser takes up all the
resources, simply leaving no space for the amber IDE.)

so that's a tossup. for myself though, i'd already be happy to just be able to
use a nicer language than what javascript is.

greetings, martin.

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