On Feb 26, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Michael Rueger wrote: > Keith Hodges wrote: > >>> We will include it. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, we will try with Pharo then. >>> Lautaro Fernández >> I am confused. Surely you would expect a loadable package to remain >> loadable and only be called up if needed? > > Although I'm normally the first to argue against including more stuff Yeap we know > > into the core image I think Announcements need to be part of core. > This will allow us to have *one* mechanism for signaling/subscribing > and > can over time replace the different variants that are now used and > provide a solid base for anyone needing such a mechanism. > In the experimental forks I have worked on having Announcements > available made all the difference. > > Michael > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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But announcements are really core. :)
Stef > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Michael Rueger <[hidden email]> > wrote: >> Although I'm normally the first to argue against including more stuff >> into the core image I think Announcements need to be part of core. > > I have to disagree. The less we have the core, the easier it will be > to maintain it. However, Announcements may be included in the Pharo > distribution (currently named pharo-dev). I think we should discuss > that. I've added it to http://code.google.com/p/pharo/wiki/Packages > > -- > Damien Cassou > http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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>> >>>> We will include it. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, we will try with Pharo then. >>>> Lautaro Fernández >>> I am confused. Surely you would expect a loadable package to remain >>> loadable and only be called up if needed? >> >> Although I'm normally the first to argue against including more stuff >> into the core image I think Announcements need to be part of core. >> This will allow us to have *one* mechanism for signaling/ >> subscribing and >> can over time replace the different variants that are now used and >> provide a solid base for anyone needing such a mechanism. >> In the experimental forks I have worked on having Announcements >> available made all the difference. >> > Does that mean that the EventManager, package System-Object Events and > the methods in Object will be replaced by that? If yes I'm all for it! Would be nice. I think that this is a reaslistic goal. But not for 1.0 :) > > > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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I agree.
Am 26.02.2009 um 17:19 schrieb Janko Mivšek: > > Announcements will soon become as core as Morphic, actually even more, > because they can replace the existing event mechanism in Morphic. VW > guys actually did that in their GUI, so this is proven in practice. > > Therefore it is good for Announcements to become part of core, because > it will enable so many things, which is the main goal of the core > anyway: to contain a functionality useful as broadly as possible. > > So, make an exception, include Announcements in core, noone will > regret > that! > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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2009/2/26 Norbert Hartl <[hidden email]>:
> On Thu, 2009-02-26 at 07:45 -0800, Michael Rueger wrote: >> Keith Hodges wrote: >> >> >> We will include it. >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, we will try with Pharo then. >> >> Lautaro Fernández >> > I am confused. Surely you would expect a loadable package to remain >> > loadable and only be called up if needed? >> >> Although I'm normally the first to argue against including more stuff >> into the core image I think Announcements need to be part of core. >> This will allow us to have *one* mechanism for signaling/subscribing and >> can over time replace the different variants that are now used and >> provide a solid base for anyone needing such a mechanism. >> In the experimental forks I have worked on having Announcements >> available made all the difference. >> > Does that mean that the EventManager, package System-Object Events and > the methods in Object will be replaced by that? If yes I'm all for it! > I will examine it more closely. > Norbert > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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If you include it, please take the latest version Announcements-lr.13
from <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements/>. I added a comment pointing to Vassili's blog and improved the tests. Furthermore I removed the class StateMachine (described here <http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/vbykov/blogView?entry=3346524723>) that I don't think is a license clean re-implementation. If we need it, somebody should read the blog and re-implement it without looking at the code. Lukas -- Lukas Renggli http://www.lukas-renggli.ch _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
ok I will
Stef On Mar 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Lukas Renggli wrote: > If you include it, please take the latest version Announcements-lr.13 > from <http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/announcements/>. > > I added a comment pointing to Vassili's blog and improved the tests. > Furthermore I removed the class StateMachine (described here > <http://www.cincomsmalltalk.com/userblogs/vbykov/blogView?entry=3346524723 > >) > that I don't think is a license clean re-implementation. If we need > it, somebody should read the blog and re-implement it without looking > at the code. > > Lukas > > -- > Lukas Renggli > http://www.lukas-renggli.ch > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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