[BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

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[BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Volker Zink
If you copy a Selection in the Paragraph-Editor and then change the
selection (just click somewhere else) and then do an 'Undo' the copied
selection is pasted at the place of the current one. You can check this
in a normal system browser.

I checked this behaviour in VW 7.3.1 and VW 7.4.

Volker


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RE: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Terry Raymond
Volker

VW has worked this way for as long as I can remember.

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Volker Zink [mailto:[hidden email]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 3:38 AM
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> Subject: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor
>
> If you copy a Selection in the Paragraph-Editor and then change the
> selection (just click somewhere else) and then do an 'Undo' the copied
> selection is pasted at the place of the current one. You can check this
> in a normal system browser.
>
> I checked this behaviour in VW 7.3.1 and VW 7.4.
>
> Volker


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Re: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Martin McClure
Terry Raymond wrote:
> Volker
>
> VW has worked this way for as long as I can remember.

True. I believe this undo behavior dates all the way back to Smalltalk-80.

However, it would be really nice to have a more modern undo behavior. I
tend to favor the Emacs undo model. Is there a feature request for this
filed somewhere?

-Martin

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Re: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Andre Schnoor
Martin McClure wrote:

> Terry Raymond wrote:
>> Volker
>>
>> VW has worked this way for as long as I can remember.
>
> True. I believe this undo behavior dates all the way back to
> Smalltalk-80.
>
> However, it would be really nice to have a more modern undo behavior.
> I tend to favor the Emacs undo model. Is there a feature request for
> this filed somewhere?


I am currently testing a full undo implementation. It seems to work
fine. I'll post it here, should it survive the weekend (currently I am
doing heavy text editing for localization - should be a good burn-in test).

Andre

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Re: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Samuel S. Shuster <sames@interaccess.com>
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Martin,

> However, it would be really nice to have a more modern undo  
> behavior. I tend to favor the Emacs undo model. Is there a feature  
> request for this filed somewhere?

Of course. It is not only out there, it's done, in Pollock. Unlimited  
Undo/Redo. Including capturing changes to attributes of the text  
(color, emphasis, etc.)

                                 And So It Goes
                                      Sames
______________________________________________________________________

Samuel S. Shuster [|]
VisualWorks Engineering, GUI Project
Smalltalk Enables Success -- What Are YOU Using?



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Re: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Martin McClure
Samuel S. Shuster wrote:
> Martin,
>
>> However, it would be really nice to have a more modern undo behavior.
>> I tend to favor the Emacs undo model. Is there a feature request for
>> this filed somewhere?
>
> Of course. It is not only out there, it's done, in Pollock. Unlimited
> Undo/Redo. Including capturing changes to attributes of the text (color,
> emphasis, etc.)

I should have known :-)

I'm glad to hear it.

-Martin

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RE: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Steven Kelly
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> Martin McClure wrote:
> > However, it would be really nice to have a more modern undo
behavior.
> > I tend to favor the Emacs undo model. Is there a feature request for
> > this filed somewhere?
>
> I am currently testing a full undo implementation. It seems to work
> fine. I'll post it here, should it survive the weekend (currently I am
> doing heavy text editing for localization - should be a good burn-in
test).

Brilliant! I was just thinking that somebody must have made one. Please,
please make this available in the public Store with an unencumbered
license. And Cincom should send you a nice T-shirt or whatever if you
let them put it in the base. Or maybe we should send Cincom T-shirts
until they agree to put it in the base? :-)

To be blunt, I can't think of another development environment / graphics
widget set that would have such a broken text editor widget. It's great
that Pollock is correcting this, but it's even better if we can have
something now!

Steve

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Re: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Mark Pirogovsky-3
In reply to this post by Samuel S. Shuster <sames@interaccess.com>
Great,

Would it be possible to retrofit the existing textView with that
functionality ?

--Mark

Samuel S. Shuster wrote:

> Martin,
>
>> However, it would be really nice to have a more modern undo  behavior.
>> I tend to favor the Emacs undo model. Is there a feature  request for
>> this filed somewhere?
>
>
> Of course. It is not only out there, it's done, in Pollock. Unlimited  
> Undo/Redo. Including capturing changes to attributes of the text  
> (color, emphasis, etc.)
>
>                                 And So It Goes
>                                      Sames
> ______________________________________________________________________
>
> Samuel S. Shuster [|]
> VisualWorks Engineering, GUI Project
> Smalltalk Enables Success -- What Are YOU Using?
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [BUG] Wrong Undo in Paragraph-Editor

Samuel S. Shuster <sames@interaccess.com>
Mark,

> Would it be possible to retrofit the existing textView with that  
> functionality ?

No.

Well, that's not strictly true. Anything is possible.

ParagraphEditor is a horror show. It is one among about 100,000  
equally scary reasons why Pollock HAD to be done.

                                 And So It Goes
                                      Sames
______________________________________________________________________

Samuel S. Shuster [|]
VisualWorks Engineering, GUI Project
Smalltalk Enables Success -- What Are YOU Using?