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Sean P. DeNigris

Best VM for the Mac>

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What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?

I recently downloaded a fresh Launcher from CI which comes with
CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2254 uuid:
4f2c2cce-f4a2-469a-93f1-97ed941df0ad Jul 20 2017, but get.pharo.../vm70
downloads CoInterpreter VMMaker.oscog-eem.2265 uuid:
76b62109-629a-4c39-9641-67b53321df9a Aug 27 2017…

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Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

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Sean P. DeNigris wrote
> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?

Bump ;)

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EstebanLM

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash

wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash

Esteban

On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

Sean P. DeNigris wrote
What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?

Bump ;)

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bpi

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

These are not for production, right?

Bernhard

> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
>
> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash
>
> Esteban
>
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?
>>
>> Bump ;)
>>
>>
>>
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EstebanLM

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

yes.
and I will promote them to stable this month.

> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:56, Bernhard Pieber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> These are not for production, right?
>
> Bernhard
>
>> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
>>
>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash
>>
>> Esteban
>>
>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?
>>>
>>> Bump ;)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Cheers,
>>> Sean
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>
>

EstebanLM

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:59, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> yes.
> and I will promote them to stable this month.
bah, not this month but january ;)

>
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:56, Bernhard Pieber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> These are not for production, right?
>>
>> Bernhard
>>
>>> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
>>>
>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>
>>> Esteban
>>>
>>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>>>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?
>>>>
>>>> Bump ;)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>> Sean
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>>
>>
>

EstebanLM

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

> On 31 Dec 2017, at 16:00, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:59, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> yes.
>> and I will promote them to stable this month.
> bah, not this month but january ;)

ah, maybe is confusing, heh… yes, usually latest VMs are *not* for production. But this ones have been tested last three months and they work fine so yes, *this ones* can be used for production.

Esteban

>
>>
>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:56, Bernhard Pieber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> These are not for production, right?
>>>
>>> Bernhard
>>>
>>>> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
>>>>
>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>>
>>>> Esteban
>>>>
>>>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>>>>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Bump ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Sean
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>>>
>>>
>>
>

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

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EstebanLM wrote
> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 <http://get.pharo.org/vmLatest70>
> | bash
> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70
> <http://get.pharo.org/vmLatest70> | bash

Thanks! Are those definitely compatible with Pharo 6.1 or is it important to
…/vmLatest61 in that case?

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EstebanLM

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

yes, they are compatible.

> On 31 Dec 2017, at 16:03, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> EstebanLM wrote
>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 <http://get.pharo.org/vmLatest70>
>> | bash
>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70
>> <http://get.pharo.org/vmLatest70> | bash
>
> Thanks! Are those definitely compatible with Pharo 6.1 or is it important to
> …/vmLatest61 in that case?
>
>
>
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> Sean
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>

bpi

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

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Hi Esteban,

Thanks for the detailed explanation and for the VMs, too? ;-)

Happy New Year!
Bernhard

> Am 31.12.2017 um 16:02 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
>
>
>
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 16:00, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:59, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> yes.
>>> and I will promote them to stable this month.
>> bah, not this month but january ;)
>
> ah, maybe is confusing, heh… yes, usually latest VMs are *not* for production. But this ones have been tested last three months and they work fine so yes, *this ones* can be used for production.
>
> Esteban
>
>>
>>>
>>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:56, Bernhard Pieber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These are not for production, right?
>>>>
>>>> Bernhard
>>>>
>>>>> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>>>
>>>>> Esteban
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>>>>>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bump ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Sean
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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>

Stephane Ducasse-3

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

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Well, do NOT rely on them on Sierra.
I can crash such VM while typing code.
They have two issues:
- typing
- freeType

I removed the freeType plugin to be able to work on my machine but
this is clearly not a solution.
Now crashing every 20 min when typing code is not something that we
can claim is production ready.
And this is both for 6.1 and 7.0

Stef

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 16:00, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:59, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>> yes.
>>> and I will promote them to stable this month.
>> bah, not this month but january ;)
>
> ah, maybe is confusing, heh… yes, usually latest VMs are *not* for production. But this ones have been tested last three months and they work fine so yes, *this ones* can be used for production.
>
> Esteban
>
>>
>>>
>>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 15:56, Bernhard Pieber <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> These are not for production, right?
>>>>
>>>> Bernhard
>>>>
>>>>> Am 31.12.2017 um 11:58 schrieb Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]>:
>>>>>
>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>>>
>>>>> Esteban
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 31 Dec 2017, at 11:48, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>>>>>> What is the best VM right now for the Mac? Where/how would one get it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bump ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

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Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote
> Well, do NOT rely on them on Sierra.
> I can crash such VM while typing code.
>>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash

Are these now safe to use? I have been waiting to update until the crashing
issues were resolved because right now I have a pretty stable older version…

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Eliot Miranda-2

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

Hi Sean,

On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:

Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote
Well, do NOT rely on them on Sierra.
I can crash such VM while typing code.
wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash

Are these now safe to use? I have been waiting to update until the crashing
issues were resolved because right now I have a pretty stable older version…

See https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/141

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Tudor Girba-2

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

Great news!

Any idea of when this will make its way to the Pharo VM?

Cheers,
Doru

> On Feb 13, 2018, at 4:18 PM, Eliot Miranda <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:55 AM, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote
>>> Well, do NOT rely on them on Sierra.
>>> I can crash such VM while typing code.
>>>>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash
>>
>> Are these now safe to use? I have been waiting to update until the crashing
>> issues were resolved because right now I have a pretty stable older version…
>
>
> See https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/141
>
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EstebanLM

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

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no because for some reason libgit2 was not in the final bundle for mac.
I need to check what happened there.

Esteban

> On 13 Feb 2018, at 14:55, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Stephane Ducasse-3 wrote
>> Well, do NOT rely on them on Sierra.
>> I can crash such VM while typing code.
>>>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/vmLatest70 | bash
>>>>>>> wget -O- get.pharo.org/64/vmLatest70 | bash
>
> Are these now safe to use? I have been waiting to update until the crashing
> issues were resolved because right now I have a pretty stable older version…
>
>
>
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> Sean
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>

Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

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EstebanLM wrote
> no because for some reason libgit2 was not in the final bundle for mac.
> I need to check what happened there.

Okay, I'll stand by. Thanks for the update.

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Sean P. DeNigris

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

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Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>> no because for some reason libgit2 was not in the final bundle for mac.
> Okay, I'll stand by. Thanks for the update.

IIRC there are new stable VMs. Is it now safe to update?

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EstebanLM

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

> On 3 Mar 2018, at 18:14, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>> no because for some reason libgit2 was not in the final bundle for mac.
>> Okay, I'll stand by. Thanks for the update.
>
> IIRC there are new stable VMs. Is it now safe to update?

not yet stable.
but latest VMs are now including all plugins necessary.

I’m planning to declare new stables soon, but I want some testing before ;)

Esteban

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Stephane Ducasse-3

Re: Best VM for the Mac>

Tx esteban for this.

Stef

On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>> On 3 Mar 2018, at 18:14, Sean P. DeNigris <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Sean P. DeNigris wrote
>>>> no because for some reason libgit2 was not in the final bundle for mac.
>>> Okay, I'll stand by. Thanks for the update.
>>
>> IIRC there are new stable VMs. Is it now safe to update?
>
> not yet stable.
> but latest VMs are now including all plugins necessary.
>
> I’m planning to declare new stables soon, but I want some testing before ;)
>
> Esteban
>
>
>>
>>
>>
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