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World Menu > System > Keymap Browser ?

> On 05 Jan 2016, at 14:16, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hey guys I remember a way to open the inspector for browsing all available keyboard shortcuts in pharo but I cannot find it via google, anyone remembers the way to do this ?

2016-01-05 14:42 GMT+01:00 David Allouche <[hidden email]>:

Strangely, I am not able get any response from Ctrl-TAB, which is essential to tab out of a text widget.

Looking with the inspector, it looks like it SHOULD do what I need, but it appears that the keyboard event does not get there.

How can I get a transcript output for every detected keyboard event? I suspect that maybe something system-wide in MacOS is intercepting the event.

At high level, do

KMLog setDebug

(and get a transcript open)

to stop it, do

KMLog removeDebug.

(This will give you Keymapping behavior, but remember that: any app can add a key processing on a morph instance manually, and that many morphs have hardwired shortcuts such as navigation keys)

At a lower level, you can trace or add a watchpoint inside:

HandMorph>>#generateKeyboardEvent:

Use that if you don't see your ctrl+tab at the Keymapping level.

Thierry

 

On 5 Jan 2016, at 14:35, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:

nope thats only the shortcuts of nautilus , a tiny fraction

so what I did was the following

Open playground and inspect

KMKeymap allInstances .

and it returns me

538

now unless those are duplicates as well, which i doubt from the looks of it it that means we have 6 shortcuts more than emacs, so pharo has more shortcuts than emacs

http://superuser.com/questions/768540/how-many-keyboard-shortcuts-are-in-emacs

ah the irony is too strong in this one

Please correct me if i am wrong because this is huge news for me :D

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:22 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:

World Menu > System > Keymap Browser ?

> On 05 Jan 2016, at 14:16, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hey guys I remember a way to open the inspector for browsing all available keyboard shortcuts in pharo but I cannot find it via google, anyone remembers the way to do this ?

I am an idiot , sorry, I though you were talking about nautilus shortcut dialog

yeah thats what i am looking for 200+ shortcuts

ok so I was wrong , still not bad at all :)

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:04 PM Thierry Goubier <[hidden email]> wrote:

2016-01-05 14:42 GMT+01:00 David Allouche <[hidden email]>:

Strangely, I am not able get any response from Ctrl-TAB, which is essential to tab out of a text widget.

Looking with the inspector, it looks like it SHOULD do what I need, but it appears that the keyboard event does not get there.

How can I get a transcript output for every detected keyboard event? I suspect that maybe something system-wide in MacOS is intercepting the event.

At high level, do

KMLog setDebug

(and get a transcript open)

to stop it, do

KMLog removeDebug.

(This will give you Keymapping behavior, but remember that: any app can add a key processing on a morph instance manually, and that many morphs have hardwired shortcuts such as navigation keys)

At a lower level, you can trace or add a watchpoint inside:

HandMorph>>#generateKeyboardEvent:

Use that if you don't see your ctrl+tab at the Keymapping level.

Thierry

 

On 5 Jan 2016, at 14:35, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:

nope thats only the shortcuts of nautilus , a tiny fraction

so what I did was the following

Open playground and inspect

KMKeymap allInstances .

and it returns me

538

now unless those are duplicates as well, which i doubt from the looks of it it that means we have 6 shortcuts more than emacs, so pharo has more shortcuts than emacs

http://superuser.com/questions/768540/how-many-keyboard-shortcuts-are-in-emacs

ah the irony is too strong in this one

Please correct me if i am wrong because this is huge news for me :D

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:22 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:

World Menu > System > Keymap Browser ?

> On 05 Jan 2016, at 14:16, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hey guys I remember a way to open the inspector for browsing all available keyboard shortcuts in pharo but I cannot find it via google, anyone remembers the way to do this ?

Just inspect:

KMRepository default

and you will get both the contextual and the global keys:

Cheers,

Doru

On Jan 5, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:

looks like that it does not contain the global shortcuts like how you open the playground etc
all am i still missing something ? 

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:12 PM Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:
I am an idiot , sorry, I though you were talking about nautilus shortcut dialog

yeah thats what i am looking for 200+ shortcuts

ok so I was wrong , still not bad at all :) 

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:04 PM Thierry Goubier <[hidden email]> wrote:
2016-01-05 14:42 GMT+01:00 David Allouche <[hidden email]>:
Strangely, I am not able get any response from Ctrl-TAB, which is essential to tab out of a text widget.

Looking with the inspector, it looks like it SHOULD do what I need, but it appears that the keyboard event does not get there.

How can I get a transcript output for every detected keyboard event? I suspect that maybe something system-wide in MacOS is intercepting the event.

At high level, do

KMLog setDebug

(and get a transcript open)

to stop it, do

KMLog removeDebug.

(This will give you Keymapping behavior, but remember that: any app can add a key processing on a morph instance manually, and that many morphs have hardwired shortcuts such as navigation keys)

At a lower level, you can trace or add a watchpoint inside:

HandMorph>>#generateKeyboardEvent:

Use that if you don't see your ctrl+tab at the Keymapping level.

Thierry
 

On 5 Jan 2016, at 14:35, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:

nope thats only the shortcuts of nautilus , a tiny fraction

so what I did was the following 

Open playground and inspect

KMKeymap allInstances .

and it returns me 

538

now unless those are duplicates as well, which i doubt from the looks of it it that means we have 6 shortcuts more than emacs, so pharo has more shortcuts than emacs 

http://superuser.com/questions/768540/how-many-keyboard-shortcuts-are-in-emacs

ah the irony is too strong in this one

Please correct me if i am wrong because this is huge news for me :D


On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 3:22 PM Sven Van Caekenberghe <[hidden email]> wrote:
World Menu > System > Keymap Browser ?

> On 05 Jan 2016, at 14:16, Dimitris Chloupis <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hey guys I remember a way to open the inspector for browsing all available keyboard shortcuts in pharo but I cannot find it via google, anyone remembers the way to do this ?

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