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C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Mircea Filip Lungu-2
Hi guys,

Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)

Cheers,
M.

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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Stéphane Ducasse
Mircea

you send us a pretty bad message. In essence that all the efforts we spent over the last years are useless.
How this is possible that you are not interested in all the efforts we did?
Famix 2.1 is dead since a long time and we will not maintain it at ALL!

Stef


> Hi guys,
>
> Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
> if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
> Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)
>
> Cheers,
> M.
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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Tudor Girba-2
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Hi Mircea,

For C# there are two efforts:

1. an old one based on the work of Ermira Daka and Erik Doernenburg. This one is open-source and it exports FAMIX 2.1 as far as I know:
https://bitbucket.org/erikdoe/pmcs/

2. a new one developed by Usman. The license might be different than a classic open source one. An alpha version can be found here, but there should be some new developments:
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=3329&release_id=6023

Cheers,
Doru


On 10 Jun 2011, at 01:07, Mircea Filip Lungu wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
> if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
> Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)
>
> Cheers,
> M.
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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Tudor Girba-2
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Hi Mircea,

I think that what Stef wants to say is that with all the great features we put in Moose 4.*, we must be doing a very bad job at marketing to not be able to convince someone to use it :)

But, yes, it is unlikely that someone will ever maintain FAMIX 2.1-based tools.

Cheers,
Doru


On 10 Jun 2011, at 09:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> Mircea
>
> you send us a pretty bad message. In essence that all the efforts we spent over the last years are useless.
> How this is possible that you are not interested in all the efforts we did?
> Famix 2.1 is dead since a long time and we will not maintain it at ALL!
>
> Stef
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
>> if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
>> Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> M.
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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Usman Bhatti
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On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Mircea,

For C# there are two efforts:

1. an old one based on the work of Ermira Daka and Erik Doernenburg. This one is open-source and it exports FAMIX 2.1 as far as I know:
https://bitbucket.org/erikdoe/pmcs/

2. a new one developed by Usman. The license might be different than a classic open source one. An alpha version can be found here, but there should be some new developments:
https://gforge.inria.fr/frs/?group_id=3329&release_id=6023

Yeah, there are some new developments but I haven't got enough time to test on a system of large size and release an alpha. If needed, I can do it. Currently, generics (paramterized types) are not handled because I haven't completely understood their extraction and representation with FAMIX. 
 


Cheers,
Doru


On 10 Jun 2011, at 01:07, Mircea Filip Lungu wrote:

> Hi guys,
>
> Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
> if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
> Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)
>
> Cheers,
> M.
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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Mircea Filip Lungu-2
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Stef,

You can choose to look at the bright side: the efforts people spent on FAMIX2.1 are not completely lost, and there is at least one person using that code at the moment :)

M.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
Mircea

you send us a pretty bad message. In essence that all the efforts we spent over the last years are useless.
How this is possible that you are not interested in all the efforts we did?
Famix 2.1 is dead since a long time and we will not maintain it at ALL!

Stef


> Hi guys,
>
> Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
> if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
> Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)
>
> Cheers,
> M.
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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Mircea Filip Lungu-2
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Doru,

Thanks for the answers!

You know that Moose 4 is really sexy and I intend to port the core of Softwarenaut to Pharo, only that I am waiting for the right time and the right person to help me with that :) And maybe that time is soon :))

Cheers,
M.

On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi Mircea,

I think that what Stef wants to say is that with all the great features we put in Moose 4.*, we must be doing a very bad job at marketing to not be able to convince someone to use it :)

But, yes, it is unlikely that someone will ever maintain FAMIX 2.1-based tools.

Cheers,
Doru


On 10 Jun 2011, at 09:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:

> Mircea
>
> you send us a pretty bad message. In essence that all the efforts we spent over the last years are useless.
> How this is possible that you are not interested in all the efforts we did?
> Famix 2.1 is dead since a long time and we will not maintain it at ALL!
>
> Stef
>
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
>> if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
>> Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> M.
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>
>
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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Stéphane Ducasse
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On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Mircea Filip Lungu wrote:

> Stef,
>
> You can choose to look at the bright side: the efforts people spent on FAMIX2.1 are not completely lost, and there is at least one person using that code at the moment :)

if everybody would do that then Moose would be dead.
With this kind of reasoning we should all be working in Squeak 2.4 and be happy sorry but I'm not.
Stef

>
> M.
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:08 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Mircea
>
> you send us a pretty bad message. In essence that all the efforts we spent over the last years are useless.
> How this is possible that you are not interested in all the efforts we did?
> Famix 2.1 is dead since a long time and we will not maintain it at ALL!
>
> Stef
>
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
> > if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
> > Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > M.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
>
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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Mircea Filip Lungu-2
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Usman,

Yeah, there are some new developments but I haven't got enough time to test on a system of large size and release an alpha. If needed, I can do it. Currently, generics (paramterized types) are not handled because I haven't completely understood their extraction and representation with FAMIX. 

Thanks for the answer! I will try it on a large system and let you know whether it works.

Best regards,
M.


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Re: C# Importer: Anybody used it recently?

Stéphane Ducasse
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On Jun 15, 2011, at 8:54 PM, Mircea Filip Lungu wrote:

> Doru,
>
> Thanks for the answers!
>
> You know that Moose 4 is really sexy and I intend to port the core of Softwarenaut to Pharo, only that I am waiting for the right time and the right person to help me with that :) And maybe that time is soon :))

I hope :)
Because else nobody will ever give feedback to VerveineJ and C# and when we will not have engineers and people to help it will be too late.

>
> Cheers,
> M.
>
> On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:28 AM, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Hi Mircea,
>
> I think that what Stef wants to say is that with all the great features we put in Moose 4.*, we must be doing a very bad job at marketing to not be able to convince someone to use it :)
>
> But, yes, it is unlikely that someone will ever maintain FAMIX 2.1-based tools.
>
> Cheers,
> Doru
>
>
> On 10 Jun 2011, at 09:08, Stéphane Ducasse wrote:
>
> > Mircea
> >
> > you send us a pretty bad message. In essence that all the efforts we spent over the last years are useless.
> > How this is possible that you are not interested in all the efforts we did?
> > Famix 2.1 is dead since a long time and we will not maintain it at ALL!
> >
> > Stef
> >
> >
> >> Hi guys,
> >>
> >> Anybody used the C# importer recently? Do you know
> >> if it exports in FAMIX 2.1? I'm a bit behind the trend with
> >> Softwarenaut and would like to apply it on a case study :)
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> M.
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Moose-dev mailing list
> >> [hidden email]
> >> https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > https://www.iam.unibe.ch/mailman/listinfo/moose-dev
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>
> "Beauty is where we see it."
>
>
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