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Cleaning morphic - Step 1 - About "Morphic-Ballon" and the Ballon category

Guillermo Polito
Hi!

Does anyone know what the Ballon category and its related morphs are for?  Someone uses it? Is it useful in the Core of pharo?

Did Someone try previously to remove it and failed? why?

thanks in advance :)
Guille

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Re: Cleaning morphic - Step 1 - About "Morphic-Ballon" and the Ballon category

Guillermo Polito
Ok, I opened an Issue for this...

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2696

On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi!

Does anyone know what the Ballon category and its related morphs are for?  Someone uses it? Is it useful in the Core of pharo?

Did Someone try previously to remove it and failed? why?

thanks in advance :)
Guille


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Re: Cleaning morphic - Step 1 - About "Morphic-Ballon" and the Ballon category

Mariano Martinez Peck
Guille: one thing you can do before removing the code, is to prepare an DEV image with Seaside, Moose and all those big projects. So that when you search senders/references you can do it also there. I don't mean that we shouldn't remove them if they are used in those projects, but just to be aware.

but for "coding" and commiting, yes, use latest PharoCore, not dev.

And yes, if you don't receive feedback, go ahead!

Cheers

Mariano

2010/7/19 Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]>
Ok, I opened an Issue for this...

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2696


On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi!

Does anyone know what the Ballon category and its related morphs are for?  Someone uses it? Is it useful in the Core of pharo?

Did Someone try previously to remove it and failed? why?

thanks in advance :)
Guille


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Re: Cleaning morphic - Step 1 - About "Morphic-Ballon" and the Ballon category

Guillermo Polito
HAhah, thanks :).

Anyway, my idea is not to remove those packages.  I want to put them in separate monticello packages, so we don't need have it in the core if we don't use it.

So, I download Seaside, Moose, and what else?

2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>
Guille: one thing you can do before removing the code, is to prepare an DEV image with Seaside, Moose and all those big projects. So that when you search senders/references you can do it also there. I don't mean that we shouldn't remove them if they are used in those projects, but just to be aware.

but for "coding" and commiting, yes, use latest PharoCore, not dev.

And yes, if you don't receive feedback, go ahead!

Cheers

Mariano

2010/7/19 Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]>
Ok, I opened an Issue for this...

http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2696


On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi!

Does anyone know what the Ballon category and its related morphs are for?  Someone uses it? Is it useful in the Core of pharo?

Did Someone try previously to remove it and failed? why?

thanks in advance :)
Guille


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Re: Cleaning morphic - Step 1 - About "Morphic-Ballon" and the Ballon category

Stéphane Ducasse
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Hi guile

here are some ideas to clean morphic
        - looking at etoy left over
                externalName and others
                checking extension
        - make sure that drawing a button does not require to check that the label is a Morph kind of behavior
                We should make sure that a label is always an object that have the right properties
        - cleaning borderstyle and friends.
        - making sure that there are examples
        - making sure that the comments are up to date
        - commenting classes
        - an important task is to make sure that we could use NewTextMorph and SmalltalkEditor


On Jul 16, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Guillermo Polito wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Does anyone know what the Ballon category and its related morphs are for?  Someone uses it? Is it useful in the Core of pharo?
>
> Did Someone try previously to remove it and failed? why?
>
> thanks in advance :)
> Guille
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Re: Cleaning morphic - Step 1 - About "Morphic-Ballon" and the Ballon category

Miguel Cobá
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El lun, 19-07-2010 a las 15:58 -0300, Guillermo Polito escribió:
> HAhah, thanks :).
>
> Anyway, my idea is not to remove those packages.  I want to put them
> in separate monticello packages, so we don't need have it in the core
> if we don't use it.
>
> So, I download Seaside, Moose, and what else?

Magma, RFB, Pier, Magritte.
:)

>
> 2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>
>         Guille: one thing you can do before removing the code, is to
>         prepare an DEV image with Seaside, Moose and all those big
>         projects. So that when you search senders/references you can
>         do it also there. I don't mean that we shouldn't remove them
>         if they are used in those projects, but just to be aware.
>        
>         but for "coding" and commiting, yes, use latest PharoCore, not
>         dev.
>        
>         And yes, if you don't receive feedback, go ahead!
>        
>         Cheers
>        
>         Mariano
>        
>         2010/7/19 Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]>
>                
>                 Ok, I opened an Issue for this...
>                
>                 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2696
>                
>                
>                
>                 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Guillermo Polito
>                 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>                         Hi!
>                        
>                         Does anyone know what the Ballon category and
>                         its related morphs are for?  Someone uses it?
>                         Is it useful in the Core of pharo?
>                        
>                         Did Someone try previously to remove it and
>                         failed? why?
>                        
>                         thanks in advance :)
>                         Guille
>                
>                
>                
>                
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Re: Cleaning morphic - Step 1 - About "Morphic-Ballon" and the Ballon category

Guillermo Polito
What's RFB? :D How can I download it?

2010/7/19 Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez <[hidden email]>
El lun, 19-07-2010 a las 15:58 -0300, Guillermo Polito escribió:
> HAhah, thanks :).
>
> Anyway, my idea is not to remove those packages.  I want to put them
> in separate monticello packages, so we don't need have it in the core
> if we don't use it.
>
> So, I download Seaside, Moose, and what else?

Magma, RFB, Pier, Magritte.
:)

>
> 2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>
>         Guille: one thing you can do before removing the code, is to
>         prepare an DEV image with Seaside, Moose and all those big
>         projects. So that when you search senders/references you can
>         do it also there. I don't mean that we shouldn't remove them
>         if they are used in those projects, but just to be aware.
>
>         but for "coding" and commiting, yes, use latest PharoCore, not
>         dev.
>
>         And yes, if you don't receive feedback, go ahead!
>
>         Cheers
>
>         Mariano
>
>         2010/7/19 Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]>
>
>                 Ok, I opened an Issue for this...
>
>                 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2696
>
>
>
>                 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Guillermo Polito
>                 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>                         Hi!
>
>                         Does anyone know what the Ballon category and
>                         its related morphs are for?  Someone uses it?
>                         Is it useful in the Core of pharo?
>
>                         Did Someone try previously to remove it and
>                         failed? why?
>
>                         thanks in advance :)
>                         Guille
>
>
>
>
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Re: Cleaning morphic - Step 1 - About "Morphic-Ballon" and the Ballon category

Mariano Martinez Peck


2010/8/12 Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]>
What's RFB? :D How can I download it?

It is a client and server Smalltalk implementation of the VNC protocol. Thus, you can deploy a Pharo image (suppose that it is even running seaside), in a headless mode, and with a VNC client you can connect and you "see" the world...thus, you can control and do whjatever you want in the deployed image.

it is in http://source.lukas-renggli.ch/unsorted/
 
there is a conf

http://forum.world.st/ANN-ConfigurationOfRFB-td1295400.html#a1295400

also read this:

http://forum.world.st/Ann-RFB-VNC-fully-configurable-by-code-td1303613.html#a1303613

what I recommend you is that you search in the archives of the mailing list:

http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-f1294837.html

cheers

mariano


2010/7/19 Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez <[hidden email]>

El lun, 19-07-2010 a las 15:58 -0300, Guillermo Polito escribió:
> HAhah, thanks :).
>
> Anyway, my idea is not to remove those packages.  I want to put them
> in separate monticello packages, so we don't need have it in the core
> if we don't use it.
>
> So, I download Seaside, Moose, and what else?

Magma, RFB, Pier, Magritte.
:)

>
> 2010/7/19 Mariano Martinez Peck <[hidden email]>
>         Guille: one thing you can do before removing the code, is to
>         prepare an DEV image with Seaside, Moose and all those big
>         projects. So that when you search senders/references you can
>         do it also there. I don't mean that we shouldn't remove them
>         if they are used in those projects, but just to be aware.
>
>         but for "coding" and commiting, yes, use latest PharoCore, not
>         dev.
>
>         And yes, if you don't receive feedback, go ahead!
>
>         Cheers
>
>         Mariano
>
>         2010/7/19 Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]>
>
>                 Ok, I opened an Issue for this...
>
>                 http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=2696
>
>
>
>                 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 8:18 PM, Guillermo Polito
>                 <[hidden email]> wrote:
>                         Hi!
>
>                         Does anyone know what the Ballon category and
>                         its related morphs are for?  Someone uses it?
>                         Is it useful in the Core of pharo?
>
>                         Did Someone try previously to remove it and
>                         failed? why?
>
>                         thanks in advance :)
>                         Guille
>
>
>
>
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