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Can someone tell me if there was any implementation of code critics-like framework on top of FAMIX?

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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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What do you mean exactly?

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No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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What do you mean exactly?

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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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What do you mean exactly?

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Can someone tell me if there was any implementation of code critics-like framework on top of FAMIX?

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Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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What do you mean exactly?

Doru


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something ...

;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:15, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

What do you mean exactly?

Doru


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something …

Yes, I know. That’s why it inspires me (because I can reuse my previous work). But I’m making sure that I won’t reimplement something already done.

Cheers.
Uko



;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:15, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

What do you mean exactly?

Doru


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Can someone tell me if there was any implementation of code critics-like framework on top of FAMIX?

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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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Arki is made for that isn’t it?

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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

Uko2
I will have a look.

Thank you.
Uko


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> Arki is made for that isn’t it?
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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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Is anyone working on FAST now?

Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something ...

;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:15, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

What do you mean exactly?

Doru


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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Yes me I am working on Fast-Java, I did not suceed to implement it with PetitJava and I am trying to do something with SmaCC written by Thierry Goubier : https://github.com/ThierryGoubier/SmaCC/tree/master/SmaCC-Java.package.


2014-03-25 8:01 GMT+00:00 Uko2 [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]>:
Is anyone working on FAST now?

Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something ...

;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:15, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

What do you mean exactly?

Doru


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Can someone tell me if there was any implementation of code critics-like framework on top of FAMIX?

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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

Goubier Thierry
Hi Benjamin,

is the SmaCC-Java parser working as you would expect? I haven't got the
time to do some significant testing on those parsers (C#, Java) yet; I
just regenerated them from their grammar once I got the core code of
SmaCC ported from Dolphin to Pharo3.

Thierry

Le 25/03/2014 09:16, Benjamin AREZKI a écrit :

> Yes me I am working on Fast-Java, I did not suceed to implement it with
> PetitJava and I am trying to do something with SmaCC written by Thierry
> Goubier :
> https://github.com/ThierryGoubier/SmaCC/tree/master/SmaCC-Java.package.
>
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> 2014-03-25 8:01 GMT+00:00 Uko2 [via Smalltalk] <[hidden email]
> </user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4750599&i=0>>:
>
>     Is anyone working on FAST now?
>
>     Uko
>
>     On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]
>     <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4750597&i=0>> wrote:
>
>>
>>     Well to do code critics, you would need to have some
>>     representation of the source code in Famix.
>>     Something like a Famix AST.
>>
>>     hummmm ....
>>
>>     somehow this reminds me of something ...
>>
>>     ;-)
>>
>>
>>     For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST
>>     (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by
>>     no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.
>>
>>     But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many
>>     code critics rules.
>>     Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix
>>     using arki, but there are many statement level details that are
>>     missing to go very far.
>>     So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST
>>
>>     nicolas
>>
>>
>>
>>     On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
>>>     Hi Chris.
>>>
>>>     The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now
>>>     on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX
>>>     because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of
>>>     metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d
>>>     like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.
>>>
>>>     Cheers.
>>>     Uko
>>>
>>>     On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]
>>>     <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4750597&i=1>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>     Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language
>>>>     specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of
>>>>     a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.
>>>>
>>>>     -cbc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]
>>>>     <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4750597&i=2>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>         No. I want to work with rules that can find common code
>>>>         smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented
>>>>         already.
>>>>
>>>>         Uko
>>>>
>>>>         Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>         On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:15, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]
>>>>         <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4750597&i=3>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>         What do you mean exactly?
>>>>>
>>>>>         Doru
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>>>>>         On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden
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>>>>>         <http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=4750597&i=4>> wrote:
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>>>>>             Hi everyone.
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>>>>>             Can someone tell me if there was any implementation of
>>>>>             code critics-like framework on top of FAMIX?
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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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I worked on the generic resolution mechanisms
I made some progress and am trying now to formalize what I learned and did in a coherent framework

nicolas

On 25/03/2014 08:58, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Is anyone working on FAST now?

Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something ...

;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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What do you mean exactly?

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On 26 Mar 2014, at 11:01, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


I worked on the generic resolution mechanisms
I made some progress and am trying now to formalize what I learned and did in a coherent framework

I’ve seen that :) There is a method called #initScope in FAMIXContainerEntity. It’s overridden in FAMIXType, FAMIXBehaviouralEntity and FAMIXScopingEntity. All 4 methods are identical :). I think that I will help with this staff. I think that FAST deserves a good future.

Now the thing is that maybe we should make some general scoping package and then include it separately in FAMIX and in FAST. Because not FAST in hacking FAMIX for scopes.

Uko


nicolas

On 25/03/2014 08:58, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Is anyone working on FAST now?

Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something ...

;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:15, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

What do you mean exactly?

Doru


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi everyone.

Can someone tell me if there was any implementation of code critics-like framework on top of FAMIX?

Regards.
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thanks for pointing that
but don't be too harsh on me, I am only a poor old researcher doing what he can
that was evolving the idea as I develop the solution, really difficult

I am trying to find time to put my ideas in a paper to formalize everything
and then clean everything

any help is welcome :-)

nicolas

On 26/03/2014 11:12, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:

On 26 Mar 2014, at 11:01, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


I worked on the generic resolution mechanisms
I made some progress and am trying now to formalize what I learned and did in a coherent framework

I’ve seen that :) There is a method called #initScope in FAMIXContainerEntity. It’s overridden in FAMIXType, FAMIXBehaviouralEntity and FAMIXScopingEntity. All 4 methods are identical :). I think that I will help with this staff. I think that FAST deserves a good future.

Now the thing is that maybe we should make some general scoping package and then include it separately in FAMIX and in FAST. Because not FAST in hacking FAMIX for scopes.

Uko


nicolas

On 25/03/2014 08:58, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Is anyone working on FAST now?

Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something ...

;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:15, Tudor Girba <[hidden email]> wrote:

What do you mean exactly?

Doru


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hi everyone.

Can someone tell me if there was any implementation of code critics-like framework on top of FAMIX?

Regards.
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On 26 Mar 2014, at 11:45, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


thanks for pointing that
but don't be too harsh on me, I am only a poor old researcher doing what he can
that was evolving the idea as I develop the solution, really difficult

I’m not blaming you. Just giving some highlights as I start to fix things too.

Uko


I am trying to find time to put my ideas in a paper to formalize everything
and then clean everything

any help is welcome :-)

nicolas

On 26/03/2014 11:12, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:

On 26 Mar 2014, at 11:01, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


I worked on the generic resolution mechanisms
I made some progress and am trying now to formalize what I learned and did in a coherent framework

I’ve seen that :) There is a method called #initScope in FAMIXContainerEntity. It’s overridden in FAMIXType, FAMIXBehaviouralEntity and FAMIXScopingEntity. All 4 methods are identical :). I think that I will help with this staff. I think that FAST deserves a good future.

Now the thing is that maybe we should make some general scoping package and then include it separately in FAMIX and in FAST. Because not FAST in hacking FAMIX for scopes.

Uko


nicolas

On 25/03/2014 08:58, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Is anyone working on FAST now?

Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 19:05, Nicolas Anquetil <[hidden email]> wrote:


Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something ...

;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

Sent from my iPhone

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What do you mean exactly?

Doru


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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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Andre did something like expressing the rules in Famix to compare if this was possible.


On 21 Mar 2014, at 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

Sent from my iPhone

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What do you mean exactly?

Doru


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
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Re: Code critics on FAMIX

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Hi ben 

this is cool to know because people here (anne and JC) are looking for a JavaAST framework.

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Yes me I am working on Fast-Java, I did not suceed to implement it with PetitJava and I am trying to do something with SmaCC written by Thierry Goubier : https://github.com/ThierryGoubier/SmaCC/tree/master/SmaCC-Java.package.


2014-03-25 8:01 GMT+00:00 Uko2 [via Smalltalk] <<a href="x-msg://33/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=4750599&amp;i=0" target="_top" rel="nofollow" link="external">[hidden email]>:
Is anyone working on FAST now?

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Well to do code critics, you would need to have some representation of the source code in Famix.
Something like a Famix AST.

hummmm ....

somehow this reminds me of something ...

;-)


For those that could not follow, I am hinting here at FAST (FAMIX-AST) a project that started with FAST-pharo implemented by no other than Yuriy Tymchuk.

But seriously, I think that FAMIX is a bit high level to have many code critics rules.
Andre had implemented some of the rules of smalllint on Famix using arki, but there are many statement level details that are missing to go very far.
So I come back to my first answer, the solution seems to be FAST

nicolas



On 21/03/2014 16:45, Yuriy Tymchuk wrote:
Hi Chris.

The idea is a framework for defining and handling rules. For now on I want to try to implement something that works on FAMIX because it’s a well defined model which already has a lot of metrics implemented. We will see how it will work in future. I’d like to have it in Pharo on the same importance level as SUnit.

Cheers.
Uko

On 21 Mar 2014, at 15:31, Chris Cunningham <[hidden email]> wrote:

Cross-language code smells, or a framework to build a language specific code critic?  I don't have either one, but the idea of a cross-languange code smell is interesting to me.

-cbc


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No. I want to work with rules that can find common code smells, and so I wander if something similar is implemented already.

Uko

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What do you mean exactly?

Doru


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