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+ as a bonus, it also includes new finalization enhancements. :)
See http://code.google.com/p/nativeboost/downloads/list for downloads. -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Cool
Marcus will integrate your changes. I'm off for a full day meeting wuithout good internet connection until thursday evening :( Stef On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:38 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > + as a bonus, it also includes new finalization enhancements. :) > > See > http://code.google.com/p/nativeboost/downloads/list > for downloads. > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Ok, thanks for the info.
i'm more than interested in the doing the MacOsX port of NBOpenGL. When i have the time ( not in the near future) i will produce a native boost mac vm deployable , plus the NBOpenGL-MacOsX. Regarding the window downloable, i followed the instructions in the page, the load order of packages but a certain class seems to be missing when i want to try the example ( the true type font example rendering ) in the NBOpenGL-Morphic package. Thanks, Fernando On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 6 October 2010 09:16, Fernando olivero <[hidden email]> wrote: >> GREAT! thanks Igor. >> >> Is there also an NPOpenGL version working in Linux? >> > > Not yet. A platform-specific code needs to be written for it. > > An NBOpenGL-Win holds a windoze-specific code for it. > In order to use NBOpenGL on linux, you should similarily, subclass from > NBGlx , and implement a missing parts of it. > > I don't know when i'll be able to get free time to implement it, so if > you wanna help, > you are wellcome. > >> Fernando >> On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >> >>> + as a bonus, it also includes new finalization enhancements. :) >>> >>> See >>> http://code.google.com/p/nativeboost/downloads/list >>> for downloads. >>> >>> -- >>> Best regards, >>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Best regards, > Igor Stasenko AKA sig. > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 6 October 2010 16:08, Fernando olivero <[hidden email]> wrote:
> Ok, thanks for the info. > > i'm more than interested in the doing the MacOsX port of NBOpenGL. When i have the time ( not in the near future) i will produce a native boost mac vm deployable , plus the NBOpenGL-MacOsX. > > Regarding the window downloable, i followed the instructions in the page, the load order of packages but a certain class seems to be missing when i want to try the example ( the true type font example rendering ) in the NBOpenGL-Morphic package. > Ohh.. i found that last one is saved as NBOpenGL-Morphic-Igor.Stasenko.3fqa instead of NBOpenGL-Morphic-Igor.Stasenko.3 don't ask me how.. looks like some MC bug. it is listed as a separate item in repository packages list .. crap Also, the missing class is NBGLCurveRenderer, which i moved to NBOpenGL-Rome package. I did a snapshot of it. But it depends on RomeCanvas class(es) , which is part of Athens.. But just ignore that for now and load it. For demo, you need only NBGLCurveRenderer which not rely on any Rome-specific stuff. It should be less messy.. But this is still under construction, so , sorry for inconvenience :) > Thanks, > Fernando > > > On Oct 6, 2010, at 2:53 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> On 6 October 2010 09:16, Fernando olivero <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> GREAT! thanks Igor. >>> >>> Is there also an NPOpenGL version working in Linux? >>> >> >> Not yet. A platform-specific code needs to be written for it. >> >> An NBOpenGL-Win holds a windoze-specific code for it. >> In order to use NBOpenGL on linux, you should similarily, subclass from >> NBGlx , and implement a missing parts of it. >> >> I don't know when i'll be able to get free time to implement it, so if >> you wanna help, >> you are wellcome. >> >>> Fernando >>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:37 AM, Igor Stasenko wrote: >>> >>>> + as a bonus, it also includes new finalization enhancements. :) >>>> >>>> See >>>> http://code.google.com/p/nativeboost/downloads/list >>>> for downloads. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Best regards, >>>> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Igor Stasenko AKA sig. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 6 October 2010 16:31, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote:
> On 6 October 2010 16:08, Fernando olivero <[hidden email]> wrote: >> Ok, thanks for the info. >> >> i'm more than interested in the doing the MacOsX port of NBOpenGL. When i have the time ( not in the near future) i will produce a native boost mac vm deployable , plus the NBOpenGL-MacOsX. >> >> Regarding the window downloable, i followed the instructions in the page, the load order of packages but a certain class seems to be missing when i want to try the example ( the true type font example rendering ) in the NBOpenGL-Morphic package. >> > > Ohh.. i found that last one is saved as > NBOpenGL-Morphic-Igor.Stasenko.3fqa > > instead of > NBOpenGL-Morphic-Igor.Stasenko.3 > > don't ask me how.. looks like some MC bug. > > it is listed as a separate item in repository packages list .. crap > > Also, the missing class is NBGLCurveRenderer, which i moved to > NBOpenGL-Rome package. > I did a snapshot of it. But it depends on RomeCanvas class(es) , which > is part of Athens.. > But just ignore that for now and load it. For demo, you need only > NBGLCurveRenderer which not rely on any Rome-specific stuff. > > It should be less messy.. But this is still under construction, so , > sorry for inconvenience :) > So, the load order is Core Win TrueType Display Rome Morphic.3fqa then you can run the: GLTTRenderingDemo new openInWorld (works for me) :) >> Thanks, >> Fernando -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > On 6 October 2010 16:31, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: >> On 6 October 2010 16:08, Fernando olivero <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> Ok, thanks for the info. >>> >>> i'm more than interested in the doing the MacOsX port of NBOpenGL. When i have the time ( not in the near future) i will produce a native boost mac vm deployable , plus the NBOpenGL-MacOsX. >>> >>> Regarding the window downloable, i followed the instructions in the page, the load order of packages but a certain class seems to be missing when i want to try the example ( the true type font example rendering ) in the NBOpenGL-Morphic package. >>> >> >> Ohh.. i found that last one is saved as >> NBOpenGL-Morphic-Igor.Stasenko.3fqa >> >> instead of >> NBOpenGL-Morphic-Igor.Stasenko.3 >> >> don't ask me how.. looks like some MC bug. >> >> it is listed as a separate item in repository packages list .. crap >> >> Also, the missing class is NBGLCurveRenderer, which i moved to >> NBOpenGL-Rome package. >> I did a snapshot of it. But it depends on RomeCanvas class(es) , which >> is part of Athens.. >> But just ignore that for now and load it. For demo, you need only >> NBGLCurveRenderer which not rely on any Rome-specific stuff. Just for curiosity, why this dependance on Rome? To end up providing a Canvas were all the rendering is performed by OpenGL and you text rendering class ? >> >> It should be less messy.. But this is still under construction, so , >> sorry for inconvenience :) >> > No problem! It's a big project, and you are making an excellent job! > So, the load order is > > Core > Win > TrueType > Display > Rome > Morphic.3fqa > > then you can run the: > > GLTTRenderingDemo new openInWorld > > (works for me) :) > Ok! Great! I wil try it. Maybe we could add some OpenGL rendering examples, some of them can be taken from AlienOpenGL examples, or other source. I found it useful for documenting the usage to have a class called AlienOpenGLExamples, with examples as instance methods ( and also to validate that the rendering is ok). Fernando _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 6 October 2010 16:54, Fernando olivero <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Igor Stasenko wrote: > >> On 6 October 2010 16:31, Igor Stasenko <[hidden email]> wrote: >>> On 6 October 2010 16:08, Fernando olivero <[hidden email]> wrote: >>>> Ok, thanks for the info. >>>> >>>> i'm more than interested in the doing the MacOsX port of NBOpenGL. When i have the time ( not in the near future) i will produce a native boost mac vm deployable , plus the NBOpenGL-MacOsX. >>>> >>>> Regarding the window downloable, i followed the instructions in the page, the load order of packages but a certain class seems to be missing when i want to try the example ( the true type font example rendering ) in the NBOpenGL-Morphic package. >>>> >>> >>> Ohh.. i found that last one is saved as >>> NBOpenGL-Morphic-Igor.Stasenko.3fqa >>> >>> instead of >>> NBOpenGL-Morphic-Igor.Stasenko.3 >>> >>> don't ask me how.. looks like some MC bug. >>> >>> it is listed as a separate item in repository packages list .. crap >>> >>> Also, the missing class is NBGLCurveRenderer, which i moved to >>> NBOpenGL-Rome package. >>> I did a snapshot of it. But it depends on RomeCanvas class(es) , which >>> is part of Athens.. >>> But just ignore that for now and load it. For demo, you need only >>> NBGLCurveRenderer which not rely on any Rome-specific stuff. > > Just for curiosity, why this dependance on Rome? To end up providing a Canvas were all the rendering is performed by OpenGL and you text rendering class ? A NBGLCurveRenderer is actually an experiment, which should be a part of something bigger (read Rome). So, that's why i moved it there, breaking demo :) I plan to implement an OpenGL backend for canvas, which implements Rome protocol. And then implement Morphic which using rome-canvas for rendering.. And then implement brand-new zoomable UI in it.. (i have a big plans)... :) > >>> >>> It should be less messy.. But this is still under construction, so , >>> sorry for inconvenience :) >>> >> > No problem! It's a big project, and you are making an excellent job! > >> So, the load order is >> >> Core >> Win >> TrueType >> Display >> Rome >> Morphic.3fqa >> >> then you can run the: >> >> GLTTRenderingDemo new openInWorld >> >> (works for me) :) >> > > > Ok! Great! I wil try it. > > Maybe we could add some OpenGL rendering examples, some of them can be taken from AlienOpenGL examples, or other source. > I found it useful for documenting the usage to have a class called AlienOpenGLExamples, with examples as instance methods ( and also to validate that the rendering is ok). > Yes yes. Things needs to be properly organized. I just don't have much time to do that :) > > Fernando > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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>>>> Also, the missing class is NBGLCurveRenderer, which i moved to
>>>> NBOpenGL-Rome package. >>>> I did a snapshot of it. But it depends on RomeCanvas class(es) , which >>>> is part of Athens.. >>>> But just ignore that for now and load it. For demo, you need only >>>> NBGLCurveRenderer which not rely on any Rome-specific stuff. >> >> Just for curiosity, why this dependance on Rome? To end up providing a Canvas were all the rendering is performed by OpenGL and you text rendering class ? > > > A NBGLCurveRenderer is actually an experiment, which should be a part > of something bigger (read Rome). > So, that's why i moved it there, breaking demo :) > The demo works just fine now! > I plan to implement an OpenGL backend for canvas, which implements > Rome protocol. > And then implement Morphic which using rome-canvas for rendering.. > And then implement brand-new zoomable UI in it.. > > (i have a big plans)... :) > I was hoping you did! Questions: 1.Once you have a NBOpenGLRomeCanvas , how do you plan to implement the zoomable UI? On which layer of abstraction? (Canvas or Morphic ?) Is there going to be a "camera" abstraction? ( just like Lumiere ) or who will know its current z transformation? 2. Regarding Text, will you reuse Paragraph and Editor already present in the system, or use an external library like Pango? I was looking at the True Type font rendering demo, and everything seems pretty much into place, and now the "paragraph" layer must be implemented. How can i help? (Eventually...) Fernando _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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On 7 October 2010 11:36, Fernando olivero <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>> Also, the missing class is NBGLCurveRenderer, which i moved to >>>>> NBOpenGL-Rome package. >>>>> I did a snapshot of it. But it depends on RomeCanvas class(es) , which >>>>> is part of Athens.. >>>>> But just ignore that for now and load it. For demo, you need only >>>>> NBGLCurveRenderer which not rely on any Rome-specific stuff. >>> >>> Just for curiosity, why this dependance on Rome? To end up providing a Canvas were all the rendering is performed by OpenGL and you text rendering class ? >> >> >> A NBGLCurveRenderer is actually an experiment, which should be a part >> of something bigger (read Rome). >> So, that's why i moved it there, breaking demo :) >> > > The demo works just fine now! > >> I plan to implement an OpenGL backend for canvas, which implements >> Rome protocol. >> And then implement Morphic which using rome-canvas for rendering.. >> And then implement brand-new zoomable UI in it.. >> >> (i have a big plans)... :) >> > > I was hoping you did! > > Questions: > 1.Once you have a NBOpenGLRomeCanvas , how do you plan to implement the zoomable UI? On which layer of abstraction? (Canvas or Morphic ?) > Is there going to be a "camera" abstraction? ( just like Lumiere ) or who will know its current z transformation? first i want to implement morphic rendering pipeline which will use Rome canvas, instead of Canvas. Next, i want to replace PasteUpMorph (World) with own subclass, which will actually control the camera, zoom level etc. So, it will be a global desktop-level zoom&translation. A submorphs will be not aware of it. In this way, its a less work and less changes to existing Morphic (i hope). And of course, i want a clear separate layer (Rome canvas) which can be used by any other UI/graphics framework. > > 2. Regarding Text, will you reuse Paragraph and Editor already present in the system, or use an external library like Pango? > I was looking at the True Type font rendering demo, and everything seems pretty much into place, and now the "paragraph" layer must be implemented. > Initially, i will just do the simplest possible thing. Reuse what morpic provides. Text/paragraph rendering is a separate and very complex problem. Of course it would be cool to do things right, but not at initial iteration :) > How can i help? (Eventually...) > Anything you want. If you want something to be there, don't hesitate and dont wait for me - start coding :) My projects are public, they are open for contributions from anyone. Also, it would be cool to sync with Juan and his work on Morphic 3. I'd like to provide a GL backend for Morphic 3. But its unclear to me, what plans Juans having about it. Recently he said that he won't make any public releases. But i really hope that we could work together on it, because such ambitious projects need more than a single man in order to complete. > Fernando > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > -- Best regards, Igor Stasenko AKA sig. _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Hi Folks,
Igor Stasenko wrote: > ... > Also, it would be cool to sync with Juan and his work on Morphic 3. > I'd like to provide a GL backend for Morphic 3. > > But its unclear to me, what plans Juans having about it. Recently he > said that he won't make any public releases. > But i really hope that we could work together on it, because such > ambitious projects need more than a single man > in order to complete. > My attempt to raise some funds to be able to work on it yielded very modest results. As a result, I'm spending more time in regular, paid work that I'd like (lately, even Drupal and PHP...). This means I don't have much time left. And most of it goes in keeping Cuis updated. So, Morphic 3 will keep advancing at a slow pace. Help in this regard would be much appreciated. Cheers, Juan Vuletich _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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