It's good to finally have access to c.l.s.d. from home, courtesy of
the technical gnomes at Cornell. It's also good to have Dolphin 4 up and going. A question: What's Object-Arts recommendation on the best way to migrate packages from Dolphin 3.x to 4? Should I go back and fileout everything, file it in to 4, and rebuild the packages? What are your recommendations for stuff like PersonalMoney.pac, SmallWorlds.pac, etc? Should I trash all my old database, Web deployment, ADK, DirectX stuff? I assume maybe not on the latter, no? Because Dolphin 4 no longer supports the DirectX stuff? Also, where are the settings that control the font for the hierarchy browser, transcript window, and workspace? I believe they used to be in Dolphin Options, but I'm not sure? Finally, now that Dolphin puts stuff in several directories, I'm rethinking my habit of trying to keep all my Dolphin stuff under a top-level directory "SmalltalkDolphin", right next to my SmalltalkSqueak, and SmalltalkExpress directories. I never liked the "Great Package 4.0" convention, because the name rapidly went out of sync when 4.1 was installed. However, if ObjectArts believes that things will work more smoothly if I use this convention or put Dolphin 4 under "Program Files", I'll do it. I just want your thoughts and opinion. Sorry for all the questions. Thanks very much to Andy for all his help getting my Dolphin 4 up. I must say, however, that activating Dolphin with all these keys seems a tad harder than reaching the Throne of Glory as indicated by the Merkevah tradition of Kabbalah.... (;-)} Only kidding, of course: I've at least -- with Andy's help -- achieved the former. I wonder, 'though, if there might not be some better way.... Is there a place on the Object-Arts site that, perhaps, discusses all this? Should there be? How about on the Wiki? --Jan -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jan Theodore Galkowski ºoº [hidden email] algebraist.com/ wikiweb.com/ atlasti.de/ [hidden email] *********************************************************************** Ask me about the Disney Vacation Club, or see algebraist.com/dvc.htm *********************************************************************** "Smalltalk? Yes, it's really that slick." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Want to know more? Check out whysmalltalk.com/, object-arts.com/ *********************************************************************** |
Jan Theodore Galkowski wrote:
> > It's good to finally have access to c.l.s.d. from home, courtesy of > the technical gnomes at Cornell. It's also good to have Dolphin 4 > up and going. > > A question: What's Object-Arts recommendation on the best way to > migrate packages from Dolphin 3.x to 4? Should I go back and > fileout everything, file it in to 4, and rebuild the packages? > What are your recommendations for stuff like PersonalMoney.pac, > SmallWorlds.pac, etc? The reason I ask this is my encounter of 4's PackageBrowser message when trying to install existing .pac's that "package might load but may not work". I was a little surprised. I thought .pac was supposed to be a nifty and safe way to migrate between images. --jtg [snip] |
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Jan,
> A question: What's Object-Arts recommendation on the best way to > migrate packages from Dolphin 3.x to 4? Should I go back and > fileout everything, file it in to 4, and rebuild the packages? > What are your recommendations for stuff like PersonalMoney.pac, > SmallWorlds.pac, etc? Just save the package from Dolphin 3.0 and install into 4.0. Most packages will import without problems. You can ignore the warning that Dolphin puts up, it is just letting you know that some stuff may not work correctly. PersonalMoney is included in the 4.0 Patch Level 1 release. The other 3rd party packages such as SmallWorlds will appear on the website in due course (as they are updated by their authors). > Should I trash all my old database, Web deployment, ADK, > DirectX stuff? I assume maybe not on the latter, no? Because > Dolphin 4 no longer supports the DirectX stuff? I wouldn't trash anything; most should move across without change (of course you can't expect to move the 3.0 WDK, ADK across to 4.0; you have to buy Dolphin Pro for that). There is a version of te old DirectX kit for 4.0, we just haven't put it on the website yet. > Also, where are the settings that control the font for the > hierarchy browser, transcript window, and workspace? I believe > they used to be in Dolphin Options, but I'm not sure? Dolphin Options/System Folder/defaultFont I think this is the same as in 3.0? > Finally, now that Dolphin puts stuff in several directories, I'm > rethinking my habit of trying to keep all my Dolphin stuff under > a top-level directory "SmalltalkDolphin", right next to my > SmalltalkSqueak, and SmalltalkExpress directories. I never > liked the "Great Package 4.0" convention, because the name > rapidly went out of sync when 4.1 was installed. However, if > ObjectArts believes that things will work more smoothly if I > use this convention or put Dolphin 4 under "Program Files", > I'll do it. I just want your thoughts and opinion. Take the defaults for installing Dolphin 4.0; you'll save yourself a lot of hassle in future. This will install the (effectively read-only) program stuff under Program Files. You are then free to save your image in any directory you choose. The default is My Documents/Dolphin Smalltalk 4.0 but you can use C:\SmalltalkDolphin if you please. Ideally you should keep all your packages in the directory tree beneath where you save your image. The new scheme separates user data (your image/ packages) neatly from the program files. Best regards, Andy Bower Dolphin Support http://www.object-arts.com --- Visit the Dolphin Smalltalk Wiki Web http://www.object-arts.com/wiki/html/Dolphin/FrontPage.htm --- |
Andy,
Thanks for your speedy reply. See below for the few comments I have. Andy Bower wrote: > > Jan, > [snip] > Just save the package from Dolphin 3.0 and install into 4.0. Most packages > will import without problems. You can ignore the warning that Dolphin puts > up, it is just letting you know that some stuff may not work correctly. > PersonalMoney is included in the 4.0 Patch Level 1 release. The other 3rd > party packages such as SmallWorlds will appear on the website in due course > (as they are updated by their authors). Okay. That's great. > > > Should I trash all my old database, Web deployment, ADK, > > DirectX stuff? I assume maybe not on the latter, no? Because > > Dolphin 4 no longer supports the DirectX stuff? > > I wouldn't trash anything; most should move across without change (of course > you can't expect to move the 3.0 WDK, ADK across to 4.0; you have to buy > Dolphin Pro for that). There is a version of te old DirectX kit for 4.0, we > just haven't put it on the website yet. > [snip] > Dolphin Options/System Folder/defaultFont > > I think this is the same as in 3.0? Andy, I was about to post a followup to my own posting since I discovered where this is. I believe in the 3.0 system it was under something called "Dolphin System". That's what confused me. [snip] > > Take the defaults for installing Dolphin 4.0; you'll save yourself a lot of > hassle in future. This will install the (effectively read-only) program > stuff under Program Files. You are then free to save your image in any > directory you choose. The default is My Documents/Dolphin Smalltalk 4.0 but > you can use C:\SmalltalkDolphin if you please. Ideally you should keep all > your packages in the directory tree beneath where you save your image. The > new scheme separates user data (your image/ packages) neatly from the > program files. Okay. I won't do that exactly, but something close. --Jan [snip] |
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