Company/freelance working with Pharo/Seaside

Hi there,

For some freelance work, my clients sometimes ask if there are a lot of
people that can continue/maintain their project if I die/quit/start a
bakery business.

Who could continue Pharo/Seaside project? Especially in the French/Dutch
speaking world.

I guess the Pharo Consortium will help to get some credibility when
proposing Pharo to a client.

Cheers,
Francois


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Hi Francois,

S, Francois Stephany piše:

> For some freelance work, my clients sometimes ask if there are a lot of
> people that can continue/maintain their project if I die/quit/start a
> bakery business.

I have the same question often. And helps when I say my customers:

1. That there is a company (not just a person) nearby (same town or say
   100 km around), which works on similar projects (Smalltalk and
   Aida/Web in my case)

2. That people from international community can be asked for help,
   because my projects are coded (including comments) in English, even
   that projects are for domestic customers.

So far my customers didn't come to question yet if tools used are open
source or not and how is about their long-term availability including
vendor stability. They know that partly are open source partly
commercial but this is too far from their interest.

Best regards
Janko

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Janko Mivšek
Aida/Web
Smalltalk Web Application Server
http://www.aidaweb.si

Yes.
I would really like to have a pool of freelancers around Pharo.
We really would love people to make money around Pharo.

Stef

Janko, stephane and others

We need your inputs to build a structure to answer these questions.
So what would help you to make your clients feel more confident?
Again I repeat it (and I know that you know): we are really interested in making business grows around pharo.

so do you think that the consortium could have a list of
        companies offering services?
        freelancers?
        …
The consortium should help you.

Stef

Hi Stef and others,

Consortium will certainly give customers some confidence. But only if
information given by consortium will be trustful. This can be achieved
by payments of members to have some status, well, giving some money
always signals some seriousness :) Such company's and freelancer's
status will then be a signal of confidence for customers.

Of course there is a problem of newcomers wanting to work as freelancers
but at the start cannot afford paying to the consortium. At the other
side we cannot just blindly trust everyone. One solution for that can be
a kind of "network of trust" and in Aida community we actually have a
such one, called Network of Aida professionals. You became a member of
our network if you prove through the work in a community that you are
capable and trustful of serious work on some paid project.

Another idea can be to start with a "marketplace" (simply a new mailing
list or existing LinkedIn infrastructure?) for matching supply and
demand of Smalltalk talent. Not just Pharo, let it be broader, we are
too few! There one can announce his ability for some work, on the other
side one can search for people willing to work on some project.

Best regards
Janko


S, Stéphane Ducasse piše:
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Janko Mivšek
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On Dec 13, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Janko Mivšek wrote:

sounds really interesting. We should get the same.

> Another idea can be to start with a "marketplace" (simply a new mailing
> list or existing LinkedIn infrastructure?) for matching supply and
> demand of Smalltalk talent. Not just Pharo, let it be broader, we are
> too few! There one can announce his ability for some work, on the other
> side one can search for people willing to work on some project.

we will see.