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Jun 21, 2011 Janko Mivšek Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks – Dear Smalltalkers, Few months ago I started a comparison of Aida, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks, with initial goal to check the strengths a...
Jun 21, 2011 Ramon Leon-5 On 06/21/2011 01:17 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: > So, now I'm inviting all of you to take a look at this Google Docs > spreadsheet and comment...
Jun 21, 2011 Janko Mivšek Hi Ramon, First calm down, then approach professionally to such a comparison. More below, S, Ramon Leon piše: > On 06/21/2011 01:17 PM,...
Jun 21, 2011 Ramon Leon-5 On 06/21/2011 02:01 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: > First calm down I'm perfectly calm, why would you think otherwise? Don't confuse directnes...
Jun 21, 2011 Janko Mivšek S, Ramon Leon piše: ...(later) >> Tabulation with enter is surely very important for any accounting apps >> where you need to e...
Jun 21, 2011 Nick Hi Janko, What are you trying to achieve? Is the idea that we come up with some feature comparison, add up the ticks in the supported column a...
Jun 21, 2011 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN) RE: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks – Nick, You nailed it. We all know that Smalltalk community is small and, quite possibly, getting smaller, whether we like it or not. The e...
Jun 22, 2011 Janko Mivšek Re: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks – It is hard to expect from us others to merge into if even its author admits that Seaside is now obsolete. That is, (from Avi words [1]) Seaside ...
Jun 22, 2011 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN) I don't think Avi was talking about better XHR support or clean URLs or external file serving support etcetera (even though Seaside is perfectly c...
Jun 27, 2011 Runar Jordahl Come on… We all know Janko is biased, and the comparison reflects that. But it is not like he wants to take over the world and kill Seaside. Well...
Jun 30, 2011 Janko Mivšek Re: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks – S, Runar Jordahl piše: > Come on… We all know Janko is biased, and the comparison reflects that. > But it is not like he wants to take o...
Jun 28, 2011 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN) RE: [vwnc] [Seaside] Re: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliadweb frameworks – http://bitquabit.com/post/make-love-not-flamewars/ -Boris From: seaside-bounces@... [mailto:seaside-bounces@...] On Behalf Of Run...
Jun 22, 2011 Hannes Hirzel Yes, I think as Boris says, contribution should be easy. The topic _is_ important. Seaside is great but not as great as it could be**. For ex...
Jun 22, 2011 Janko Mivšek Hi Hannes, S, H. Hirzel piše: > I think as Boris says, contribution should be easy. Can you try to copy that spreadsheet and then you ...
Jun 22, 2011 Paul DeBruicker On 06/22/2011 09:31 AM, H. Hirzel wrote: > For example I would love to have tables where people can > enter rows and terminate them with t...
Jun 22, 2011 Nick Janko, On the web we have an opportunity, are we loosing it? > > That's why I'm pushing this comparison and that's why I'd have and ESU...
Jun 22, 2011 Janko Mivšek Hi Nick, S, Nick Ager piše: > On the web we have an opportunity, are we loosing it? > > That's why I'm pushing this comp...
Jun 23, 2011 Johan Brichau-2 On 22 Jun 2011, at 22:42, Janko Mivšek wrote: >> Clearly JTalk is innovative. >> Anything similar you'd like to share with us? ...
Jun 23, 2011 Johan Brichau-2 On 23 Jun 2011, at 09:28, Johan Brichau wrote: > On 22 Jun 2011, at 22:42, Janko Mivšek wrote: > >>> Clearly JTalk is innov...
Jun 22, 2011 Göran Krampe Hi guys! On 06/22/2011 10:42 PM, Janko Mivšek wrote: >> I've heard rumours that Gilad Bracha has a Newspeak to Javascript >> comp...
Jun 22, 2011 Reza Razavi At 14:13 22/06/2011, Janko Mivšek wrote: >That's why I'm pushing this comparison Hi Janko, I was wondering how your comparison criteria ...
Jun 22, 2011 Michael Haupt-3 Hi Nick, Am 21.06.2011 um 23:59 schrieb Nick Ager <nick.ager@...>: > What are you trying to achieve? Is the idea that we come up with...
Jun 22, 2011 Johan Brichau-2 Hey everyone, On 22 Jun 2011, at 06:29, Michael Haupt wrote: > Consider this a scientific project. An emotion-free attitude helps. :-) ...
Jun 22, 2011 Janko Mivšek Hi Johan, S, Johan Brichau piše: > On 22 Jun 2011, at 06:29, Michael Haupt wrote: > >> Consider this a scientific project. An...
Jun 22, 2011 Hannes Hirzel On 6/22/11, Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...> wrote: ... >> For comparing, it would be really good to have the same application >&...
Jun 23, 2011 garduino Interesting thread. A thing I've not read about in the above mails is about security (even when is named in the spreadsheet). In my opinion...
Jun 22, 2011 Hannes Hirzel Hello to all again On 6/22/11, Johan Brichau <johan@...> wrote: > Hey everyone, > > On 22 Jun 2011, at 06:29, Michael Haupt w...
Jun 21, 2011 Ramon Leon-5 >> Again, nothing to do with web frameworks. This all happens in the >> browser, you aren't doing anything that any other website on...
Jun 22, 2011 marten Comparisions have always problems. But at least an attempt to make one and I would like to thank Janko for this. One can improve it - but actu...
Jun 21, 2011 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN) RE: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks – Janko, The issue with including add-ons in this comparison is fundamental - there's actually a focus in making sure the Seaside core focused an...
Jun 21, 2011 Janko Mivšek Re: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks – Hi Boris, We need to set a border to where to go with a comparison and this one has a simple one: out-of the-box features.Wwith few clearly ma...
Jun 21, 2011 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN) RE: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks – I have to agree with Ramon here and get a sense it would have been a better start to have empty values for Seaside/Iliad and remove items that are...
Jun 22, 2011 AA-2 Hi Janko I'm curious about the features/differences between the three frameworks. However, the current list appears to favour Aida/Web, and ...
Jun 22, 2011 Janko Mivšek Hi Amir, S, AA piše: > I'm curious about the features/differences between the three frameworks. > > However, the current list ap...
Jun 22, 2011 AA-2 Incidentally, is this sheet set to 'view only'? I can't edit anything! _______________________________________________ seaside mailing list se...
Jun 22, 2011 Janko Mivšek Comparison, how to contribute (was Re: Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad...) – Hi guys, The simplest way to contribute is to do a copy this spreadsheet and edit it, so: 1. copy this spreadsheet on your own one, edit, t...
Jun 22, 2011 Boris Popov, DeepCove Labs (SNN) [I missed Seaside list in my response earlier] http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2737880/screenshots/pharovsvisualworks.png -Boris...
Jun 21, 2011 Nick Hi Janko, but unfortunately Seasiders were not willing to join, with their stated > reason that spreadsheet of comparative features is not ...
Jun 21, 2011 Elliot Finley 2011/6/21 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...>: > Dear Smalltalkers, > > Few months ago I started a comparison of Aida, Seaside and I...
Jun 21, 2011 sebastianconcept@gmail.co This might sound defensive but isn't meant to: the comparison of this frameworks could be an exercise on curiosity but I fail to see real value on...
Jun 21, 2011 Jason Rogers-4 Thanks, Janko. 2011/6/21 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...>: > Dear Smalltalkers, > > Few months ago I started a comparison of A...
Jun 21, 2011 vonbecmann what about unit-test coverage and integration-test? 2011/6/21 Janko Mivšek <janko.mivsek@...> > Dear Smalltalkers, > > Few ...
Jun 21, 2011 Janko Mivšek Re: [aida] [Seaside] Comparison of Aida/Web, Seaside and Iliad web frameworks – Hi Bernardo, For Code statistics covering also tests (but not actual test coverage) see already published stats: https://spreadsheets.googl...
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