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alistairgrant

ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

Hi All,

It looks like Grease is still hosted on smalltalkhub - if not, please
let me know where.

Are there any objections to me updating
ConfigurationOfGrease>>release1: to load on Pharo8?

The updated method is (apologies for loss of formatting):

release1: aSpec
<symbolicVersion:#'release1'>
aSpec for: #'pharo3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo4.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo6.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo7.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo8.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'squeak5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'gs3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo1.x' version: #'release1.2'.
aSpec for: #'pharo2.x' version: #'release1.2'.
aSpec for: #'squeak4.x' version: #'release1.2'.
aSpec for: #'gs2.x' version: #'release1.2'

The change is the addition of the #'pharo8.x' line.

Thanks,
Alistair

CyrilFerlicot

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

On Sun 3 Feb 2019 at 19:20, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi All,

It looks like Grease is still hosted on smalltalkhub - if not, please
let me know where.

Hi,

Here:

https://github.com/SeasideSt/Grease

Are there any objections to me updating
ConfigurationOfGrease>>release1: to load on Pharo8?

The updated method is (apologies for loss of formatting):

release1: aSpec
<symbolicVersion:#'release1'>
aSpec for: #'pharo3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo4.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo6.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo7.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo8.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'squeak5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'gs3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
aSpec for: #'pharo1.x' version: #'release1.2'.
aSpec for: #'pharo2.x' version: #'release1.2'.
aSpec for: #'squeak4.x' version: #'release1.2'.
aSpec for: #'gs2.x' version: #'release1.2'

The change is the addition of the #'pharo8.x' line.

Thanks,
Alistair

Cyril Ferlicot
https://ferlicot.fr

Sven Van Caekenberghe-2

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

In reply to this post by alistairgrant

> On 3 Feb 2019, at 19:19, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> It looks like Grease is still hosted on smalltalkhub - if not, please
> let me know where.

The main repo is https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside and has been for a while

> Are there any objections to me updating
> ConfigurationOfGrease>>release1: to load on Pharo8?
>
> The updated method is (apologies for loss of formatting):
>
> release1: aSpec
> <symbolicVersion:#'release1'>
> aSpec for: #'pharo3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> aSpec for: #'pharo4.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> aSpec for: #'pharo5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> aSpec for: #'pharo6.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> aSpec for: #'pharo7.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> aSpec for: #'pharo8.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> aSpec for: #'squeak5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> aSpec for: #'gs3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> aSpec for: #'pharo1.x' version: #'release1.2'.
> aSpec for: #'pharo2.x' version: #'release1.2'.
> aSpec for: #'squeak4.x' version: #'release1.2'.
> aSpec for: #'gs2.x' version: #'release1.2'
>
> The change is the addition of the #'pharo8.x' line.
>
> Thanks,
> Alistair
>

alistairgrant

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

In reply to this post by CyrilFerlicot

Hi Cyril & Sven,

Thanks for the pointer. I'll have to figure out why it is being
loaded from smalltalkhub - maybe Pillar? Anyway, I'll have a look.

Thanks again,
Alistair

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 19:22, Cyril Ferlicot <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
>
>
> On Sun 3 Feb 2019 at 19:20, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> It looks like Grease is still hosted on smalltalkhub - if not, please
>> let me know where.
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Here:
>
> https://github.com/SeasideSt/Grease
>
> :)
>
>>
>> Are there any objections to me updating
>> ConfigurationOfGrease>>release1: to load on Pharo8?
>>
>> The updated method is (apologies for loss of formatting):
>>
>> release1: aSpec
>> <symbolicVersion:#'release1'>
>> aSpec for: #'pharo3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>> aSpec for: #'pharo4.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>> aSpec for: #'pharo5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>> aSpec for: #'pharo6.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>> aSpec for: #'pharo7.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>> aSpec for: #'pharo8.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>> aSpec for: #'squeak5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>> aSpec for: #'gs3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>> aSpec for: #'pharo1.x' version: #'release1.2'.
>> aSpec for: #'pharo2.x' version: #'release1.2'.
>> aSpec for: #'squeak4.x' version: #'release1.2'.
>> aSpec for: #'gs2.x' version: #'release1.2'
>>
>> The change is the addition of the #'pharo8.x' line.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alistair
>>
> --
> Cyril Ferlicot
> https://ferlicot.fr

alistairgrant

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

Hi Cyril & Sven,

I was loading an old version of Pillar, so that solves the Grease version info.

Thanks again,
Alistair

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 19:25, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi Cyril & Sven,
>
> Thanks for the pointer. I'll have to figure out why it is being
> loaded from smalltalkhub - maybe Pillar? Anyway, I'll have a look.
>
> Thanks again,
> Alistair
>
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 19:22, Cyril Ferlicot <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun 3 Feb 2019 at 19:20, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> It looks like Grease is still hosted on smalltalkhub - if not, please
> >> let me know where.
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Here:
> >
> > https://github.com/SeasideSt/Grease
> >
> > :)
> >
> >>
> >> Are there any objections to me updating
> >> ConfigurationOfGrease>>release1: to load on Pharo8?
> >>
> >> The updated method is (apologies for loss of formatting):
> >>
> >> release1: aSpec
> >> <symbolicVersion:#'release1'>
> >> aSpec for: #'pharo3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> >> aSpec for: #'pharo4.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> >> aSpec for: #'pharo5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> >> aSpec for: #'pharo6.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> >> aSpec for: #'pharo7.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> >> aSpec for: #'pharo8.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> >> aSpec for: #'squeak5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> >> aSpec for: #'gs3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
> >> aSpec for: #'pharo1.x' version: #'release1.2'.
> >> aSpec for: #'pharo2.x' version: #'release1.2'.
> >> aSpec for: #'squeak4.x' version: #'release1.2'.
> >> aSpec for: #'gs2.x' version: #'release1.2'
> >>
> >> The change is the addition of the #'pharo8.x' line.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Alistair
> >>
> > --
> > Cyril Ferlicot
> > https://ferlicot.fr

ducasse

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

HI alistair

you should use the latest pillar. Was dev-7 and now it is 70
because this is around six months that we removed the dependency to grease.

Now if you need help to migrate a book/doc from pillar 6 to 7 let me know I can help.
I migrated many of the books to validate Pillar 70.

It is three weeks that we do not find the time to officially release it but it is super stable.

Stef

> On 3 Feb 2019, at 21:48, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi Cyril & Sven,
>
> I was loading an old version of Pillar, so that solves the Grease version info.
>
> Thanks again,
> Alistair
>
>
> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 19:25, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Cyril & Sven,
>>
>> Thanks for the pointer. I'll have to figure out why it is being
>> loaded from smalltalkhub - maybe Pillar? Anyway, I'll have a look.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Alistair
>>
>> On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 19:22, Cyril Ferlicot <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun 3 Feb 2019 at 19:20, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> It looks like Grease is still hosted on smalltalkhub - if not, please
>>>> let me know where.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Here:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/SeasideSt/Grease
>>>
>>> :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are there any objections to me updating
>>>> ConfigurationOfGrease>>release1: to load on Pharo8?
>>>>
>>>> The updated method is (apologies for loss of formatting):
>>>>
>>>> release1: aSpec
>>>> <symbolicVersion:#'release1'>
>>>> aSpec for: #'pharo3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'pharo4.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'pharo5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'pharo6.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'pharo7.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'pharo8.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'squeak5.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'gs3.x' version: #'release1.3'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'pharo1.x' version: #'release1.2'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'pharo2.x' version: #'release1.2'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'squeak4.x' version: #'release1.2'.
>>>> aSpec for: #'gs2.x' version: #'release1.2'
>>>>
>>>> The change is the addition of the #'pharo8.x' line.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Alistair
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Cyril Ferlicot
>>> https://ferlicot.fr
>

alistairgrant

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

Hi Stef,

On Sun, 3 Feb 2019 at 21:56, ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> HI alistair
>
> you should use the latest pillar. Was dev-7 and now it is 70
> because this is around six months that we removed the dependency to grease.

I can see the dev-7 branch (which is what I'm using in Pharo 8).

But what do you mean by "now it is 70"?

Thanks,
Alistair

ducasse

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

Hi alistair

>> HI alistair
>>
>> you should use the latest pillar. Was dev-7 and now it is 70
>> because this is around six months that we removed the dependency to grease.
>
> I can see the dev-7 branch (which is what I'm using in Pharo 8).

And this is the one that broke? Strange.
Now we did not try Pillar in Pharo 80.
Could you try in Pharo70?

> But what do you mean by "now it is 70”?

I thought that guillermo changed the dev-7 branch.
Ok I checked and this is a tag. 7.4.1

>
> Thanks,
> Alistair
>

alistairgrant

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

Hi Stef,
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 09:20, ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> Hi alistair
>
> >> HI alistair
> >>
> >> you should use the latest pillar. Was dev-7 and now it is 70
> >> because this is around six months that we removed the dependency to grease.
> >
> > I can see the dev-7 branch (which is what I'm using in Pharo 8).
>
>
> And this is the one that broke? Strange.
> Now we did not try Pillar in Pharo 80.
> Could you try in Pharo70?

No, the smalltalkhub version was "broken", but that's to be expected
since it was out of date.

The dev-7 branch loads fine in Pharo 8.

> > But what do you mean by "now it is 70”?
>
> I thought that guillermo changed the dev-7 branch.
> Ok I checked and this is a tag. 7.4.1

And that answers my question.

Thanks,
Alistair

Guillermo Polito

Re: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 9:28 AM Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Stef,
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 09:20, ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> Hi alistair
>
> >> HI alistair
> >>
> >> you should use the latest pillar. Was dev-7 and now it is 70
> >> because this is around six months that we removed the dependency to grease.
> >
> > I can see the dev-7 branch (which is what I'm using in Pharo 8).
>
>
> And this is the one that broke? Strange.
> Now we did not try Pillar in Pharo 80.
> Could you try in Pharo70?

No, the smalltalkhub version was "broken", but that's to be expected
since it was out of date.

The dev-7 branch loads fine in Pharo 8.

> > But what do you mean by "now it is 70”?
>
> I thought that guillermo changed the dev-7 branch.

Nope, I think that name is good, and then we manage releases using tags. We have the following branches:

> Ok I checked and this is a tag. 7.4.1

And that answers my question.

Thanks,
Alistair

Guille Polito

Research Engineer

Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille

CRIStAL - UMR 9189

French National Center for Scientific Research - http://www.cnrs.fr

Web: http://guillep.github.io

Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13

alistairgrant

Pillar branch names (was: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8)

Hi Guille,

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 09:43, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:

>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 9:28 AM Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stef,
>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 09:20, ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> The dev-7 branch loads fine in Pharo 8.
>>
>> > > But what do you mean by "now it is 70”?
>> >
>> > I thought that guillermo changed the dev-7 branch.
>
> Nope, I think that name is good, and then we manage releases using tags. We have the following branches:

What do you think of following the same naming convention as
pharo-project/pharo, i.e. using branch names Pharo7.0 instead of
dev-7?

I think that would make it easier for newcomers.

Cheers,
Alistair

Ben Coman

Re: Pillar branch names (was: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8)

On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 at 00:32, Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Guille,

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 09:43, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 9:28 AM Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stef,
>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 09:20, ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> The dev-7 branch loads fine in Pharo 8.
>>
>> > > But what do you mean by "now it is 70”?
>> >
>> > I thought that guillermo changed the dev-7 branch.
>
> Nope, I think that name is good, and then we manage releases using tags. We have the following branches:

What do you think of following the same naming convention as
pharo-project/pharo, i.e. using branch names Pharo7.0 instead of
dev-7?

I think that would make it easier for newcomers.

Thats what we currently have. Its good for me.

https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/branches

cheers -ben

Guillermo Polito

Re: Pillar branch names (was: ConfigurationOfGrease for Pharo8)

In reply to this post by alistairgrant

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 5:32 PM Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Guille,

On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 09:43, Guillermo Polito <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 9:28 AM Alistair Grant <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stef,
>> On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 at 09:20, ducasse <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> >
>>
>> The dev-7 branch loads fine in Pharo 8.
>>
>> > > But what do you mean by "now it is 70”?
>> >
>> > I thought that guillermo changed the dev-7 branch.
>
> Nope, I think that name is good, and then we manage releases using tags. We have the following branches:

What do you think of following the same naming convention as
pharo-project/pharo, i.e. using branch names Pharo7.0 instead of
dev-7?

I think that would make it easier for newcomers.

Well, not necessarily pillar version 7 is for Pharo version 7, or pillar version 6 is for pharo 6.

Until now, those namings were a bit accidental...

Actually, between pillar 6 and 7, the major change (user-wise, and not implementation wise) is that it can be built without makefiles and works on windows.

But the pillar parser and ASTs do not change (or not that I'm aware of).

Cheers,
Alistair

Guille Polito

Research Engineer

Centre de Recherche en Informatique, Signal et Automatique de Lille

CRIStAL - UMR 9189

French National Center for Scientific Research - http://www.cnrs.fr

Web: http://guillep.github.io

Phone: +33 06 52 70 66 13