Connecting new GLASS appliance with VisualWorks

Karel,

The license settings in the appliance turn off traversal buffers which are required by GBS. GBS is part of our commercial offering and we haven't set up free (for any use:) licensing of GBS.

To get the best experience from the appliance you should use the GemTools client, since there are tools available from GemTools that aren't available through GBS.

If OmniBrowswer support were to be ported to VisualWorks, then you'd be able to use VisualWorks as a GemTools client...

Dale

Karel Beyr wrote:

 Hello list,
I am experimenting with the new Glass appliance from Visual Works 7.7.

When I start fresh visual.im <http://visual.im> , install parcel Gembuilder 7.3.1 then when I doIt this code from workspace:

(GbsSessionParameters
   newWithGemStoneName: '!@192.168.0.227 <http://192.168.0.227>!seaside'

   username: 'SystemUser'
   password: 'swordfish'
   rememberPassword: true
   hostUsername: ''
   hostPassword: ''
   rememberHostPassword: true

   gemService: '!@192.168.0.227 <http://192.168.0.227>!gemnetobject'

   addToKnownParameters: true) login

I get an error "Unhandled exception: GbsGsErrStnNetLost - The GemStone session has lost its connection to the Stone Repository monitor., EOF from SocketRead"

On stack in  GbsSession>>method basicLoginLinked: all arguments are true (e.g. GbsError verify: t1 is: Boolean).
Appliance is running, I get a beautiful "Welcome to Seaside" page when I connect to http://192.168.0.227 from Firefox.

When I conducted similar experiments with previous Appliance (1.0beta11), I managed to connect to gemstone from VisualWorks image.
Any ideas how to get past this error?

Thanks!
Karel

Conrad,

We don't have a one-click with the 3.0 gci library installed, but the "standard" GemTools works with GemStone 3.0 once you've replaced the gci library with the one that can be found in the $GEMSTONE/lib32 directory[1].

Does that help?

Dale

[1] http://code.google.com/p/glassdb/wiki/GettingStartedWithGLASS#Install_GCI_library_files

----- Original Message -----
| From: "Conrad Taylor" <[hidden email]>
| To: "GemStone Seaside beta discussion" <[hidden email]>
| Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 7:03:36 PM
| Subject: Re: [GS/SS Beta] Connecting new GLASS appliance with VisualWorks
|
| On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Dale Henrichs < [hidden email]
| > wrote:
|
|
|
| Karel,
|
| The license settings in the appliance turn off traversal buffers
| which are required by GBS. GBS is part of our commercial offering
| and we haven't set up free (for any use:) licensing of GBS.
|
| To get the best experience from the appliance you should use the
| GemTools client, since there are tools available from GemTools that
| aren't available through GBS.
|
| If OmniBrowswer support were to be ported to VisualWorks, then you'd
| be able to use VisualWorks as a GemTools client...
|
| Dale
|
| Karel Beyr wrote:
|
|
|
| Hello list,
| I am experimenting with the new Glass appliance from Visual Works
| 7.7.
| When I start fresh visual.im < http://visual.im > , install parcel
| Gembuilder 7.3.1 then when I doIt this code from workspace:
|
| (GbsSessionParameters
| newWithGemStoneName: '!@ 192.168.0.227 < http://192.168.0.227 >!
| seaside'
|
| username: 'SystemUser'
| password: 'swordfish'
| rememberPassword: true
| hostUsername: ''
| hostPassword: ''
| rememberHostPassword: true
| gemService: '!@ 192.168.0.227 < http://192.168.0.227 >! gemnetobject'
|
| addToKnownParameters: true) login
|
| I get an error "Unhandled exception: GbsGsErrStnNetLost - The
| GemStone session has lost its connection to the Stone Repository
| monitor., EOF from SocketRead"
|
| On stack in GbsSession>>method basicLoginLinked: all arguments are
| true (e.g. GbsError verify: t1 is: Boolean).
| Appliance is running, I get a beautiful "Welcome to Seaside" page
| when I connect to http://192.168.0.227 from Firefox.
|
| When I conducted similar experiments with previous Appliance
| (1.0beta11), I managed to connect to gemstone from VisualWorks
| image.
| Any ideas how to get past this error?
|
| Thanks!
| Karel
|
|
|
| Dale, I have also wanted to use GBS with VW to connect to Gemstone/S
| but this would require 2 licenses (i.e. GS and VW) and several
| thousand dollars later for a proof-of-concept. Thus, the idea was
| dropped because the powers that be wouldn't provide budget for it.
| Anyway, is there a GemTools version that supports Gemstone/S 3.0 out
| of the box?
|
|
| -Conrad
|
|

Conrad,

The 32 bit gci library is used to connect to 32 bit client Smalltalk vms, while the base product is 64 bit. We also have 64 bit gci libraries for the 64 bit vms, but in general the 64bit client smalltalk vms haven't been as stable as their 32bit counterparts ...

The GemTools that Monty ships with Maglev should work for you ...

Be aware that we don't have a whole lot of experience with running mixed systems of Ruby and Smalltalk. Ruby running on top of Smalltalk (the standard mechanism for Ruby in MagLev) is tested all of the time, but we have not spent a lot of time making sure that Smalltalk running in a Ruby extent will work.

Here's some of the skinny on what is going on in the ruby and seaside extents. The standard extent0.dbf includes:

 - SystemUser owns the base Smalltalk class library (globals found in the
   Globals symbolDictionary).

After exten0.dbf is built, we load code as DataCurator and create extent0.seaside.dbf:

 - DataCurator is loaded up with the GLASS support library (globals and method
   extensions found in UserGlobals). Classes include Monticello/Metacello support,
   Squeak/Pharo compatibility and GemTools support.
 - Note that loading Seaside is left up to the user.

To create extent0.ruby.dbf, we load in the GLASS support code (same as extent0.seaside.dbf) and some ruby-specific Smalltalk code to make the extent ruby and smalltalk friendly:

 - DataCurator owns all of the artifacts ...

To summarize:

 - extent0.dbf         - GemStone Smalltalk in Globals owned by SystemUser
 - extent0.seaside.dbf - extent0.dbf plus GLASS base code in DataCurator's UserGlobals
 - extent0.ruby.dbf    - extent0.seaside.dbf plus ruby support code in DataCurator's UserGlobals ...


Running smalltalk code in extent0.dbf has been extensively tested. Running Smalltalk, Seaside and Squeak/Pharo compat code has been extensively tested in extent0.seaside.dbf. Running Ruby code in extent0.ruby.dbf has been extensively tested.

We haven't done a lot of testing of Seaside running in extent0.ruby.dbf and there were a handful of issues a month or two ago that have not been addressed yet ...

MagLev is a superset of GemStone/S 3.0 so you should be able to run pretty much any combination that you want ...

Dale

----- Original Message -----
| From: "Conrad Taylor" <[hidden email]>
| To: "GemStone Seaside beta discussion" <[hidden email]>

| Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 6:26:02 PM
| Subject: Re: [GS/SS Beta] Connecting new GLASS appliance with VisualWorks
|
| On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Dale Henrichs < [hidden email]
| > wrote:
|
|
|
| Conrad,
|
| We don't have a one-click with the 3.0 gci library installed, but the
| "standard" GemTools works with GemStone 3.0 once you've replaced the
| gci library with the one that can be found in the $GEMSTONE/lib32
| directory[1].
|
| Does that help?
|
| Dale
|
|
|
|
| Dale, is part of the system 32 bit and others 64 bit? Anyway, I'll
| attempt to use the Gemstone/S 3.0 that was installed with Maglev.
| Then I'll try to get the GemTools working from their based on
| Monty's instructions. I have put this off because I didn't want to
| ruin my Maglev installation. Next, I see the following within the
| $GEMSTONE/lib32 directory:
|
|
|
| $ ls -al
| total 1928
| dr-xr-xr-x 5 conradwt staff 170 Jun 7 13:12 .
| drwxr-xr-x 21 conradwt staff 714 Jun 13 00:30 ..
| -r-xr-xr-x 1 conradwt staff 170 Jun 7 13:12
| ._libgcirpc64-301.dylib.VXfcaM
| lrwxr-xr-x 1 conradwt staff 21 Jun 7 15:59 libgcirpc.dylib ->
| libgcirpc64-301.dylib
| -r-xr-xr-x@ 1 conradwt staff 977764 Jun 7 13:12 libgcirpc64-301.dylib
|
|
| -Conrad
|
|
| [1]
| http://code.google.com/p/glassdb/wiki/GettingStartedWithGLASS#Install_GCI_library_files
|
|
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| | From: "Conrad Taylor" < [hidden email] >
| | To: "GemStone Seaside beta discussion" < [hidden email]
| | >
| | Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 7:03:36 PM
| | Subject: Re: [GS/SS Beta] Connecting new GLASS appliance with
| | VisualWorks
| |
| | On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Dale Henrichs <
| | [hidden email]
| | > wrote:
| |
| |
| |
| | Karel,
| |
| | The license settings in the appliance turn off traversal buffers
| | which are required by GBS. GBS is part of our commercial offering
| | and we haven't set up free (for any use:) licensing of GBS.
| |
| | To get the best experience from the appliance you should use the
| | GemTools client, since there are tools available from GemTools that
| | aren't available through GBS.
| |
| | If OmniBrowswer support were to be ported to VisualWorks, then
| | you'd
| | be able to use VisualWorks as a GemTools client...
| |
| | Dale
| |
| | Karel Beyr wrote:
| |
| |
| |
| | Hello list,
| | I am experimenting with the new Glass appliance from Visual Works
| | 7.7.
| | When I start fresh visual.im < http://visual.im > , install parcel
| | Gembuilder 7.3.1 then when I doIt this code from workspace:
| |
| | (GbsSessionParameters
| | newWithGemStoneName: '!@ 192.168.0.227 < http://192.168.0.227 >!
| | seaside'
| |
| | username: 'SystemUser'
| | password: 'swordfish'
| | rememberPassword: true
| | hostUsername: ''
| | hostPassword: ''
| | rememberHostPassword: true
| | gemService: '!@ 192.168.0.227 < http://192.168.0.227 >!
| | gemnetobject'
| |
| | addToKnownParameters: true) login
| |
| | I get an error "Unhandled exception: GbsGsErrStnNetLost - The
| | GemStone session has lost its connection to the Stone Repository
| | monitor., EOF from SocketRead"
| |
| | On stack in GbsSession>>method basicLoginLinked: all arguments are
| | true (e.g. GbsError verify: t1 is: Boolean).
| | Appliance is running, I get a beautiful "Welcome to Seaside" page
| | when I connect to http://192.168.0.227 from Firefox.
| |
| | When I conducted similar experiments with previous Appliance
| | (1.0beta11), I managed to connect to gemstone from VisualWorks
| | image.
| | Any ideas how to get past this error?
| |
| | Thanks!
| | Karel
| |
| |
| |
| | Dale, I have also wanted to use GBS with VW to connect to
| | Gemstone/S
| | but this would require 2 licenses (i.e. GS and VW) and several
| | thousand dollars later for a proof-of-concept. Thus, the idea was
| | dropped because the powers that be wouldn't provide budget for it.
| | Anyway, is there a GemTools version that supports Gemstone/S 3.0
| | out
| | of the box?
| |
| |
| | -Conrad
| |
| |
|
|