HI
We would like to get your point of view about the following (we discussed with INRIA lawyer and others. Goal: Remember we want to be able to pay an engineer (cost 55K). Constraints: We do not want a special license for people participating to the consortium and the others. It means that members may not have immediate advantages like 10% reduction :). But it also means that the system is clean, simple, …. Proposals: Individual Member: - Free membership Institutional Member: (like Lab, University….) - 1000 Euros Company - First level support: 2000-3000 Euros - Extended Support: 5000-6000 Euros Then finally we want to have a donation for >500 Euros Now with these numbers: we can do it. It may be tight but this would be a huge success! we need 20 first level support 2000 Euros * 20 = 40000 two extended 5000 Euros * 2 = 12000 5 institutionals 5* 1000 = 5000 Gift: 500 * 10 = 5000 So let us know what do you think? Stef |
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I think the individual membership should not be free. Being part of the consortium should be meaningful. So, I propose that a membership requires one of two: 1. make a gift, or 2. present the evidence of three relevant commits to Pharo or adjacent projects. Of course, most people will fall under the second category anyway. But, like this, when one adds the badge of "Proud Pharo supporter" to his webpage it has a factual meaning. What do you think? Cheers, Doru p.s. And 5000 * 2 = 10000. Luckily, it's probably not going to be Stef taking care of the finance details :) On 3 Dec 2011, at 10:00, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > HI > > We would like to get your point of view about the following (we discussed with INRIA lawyer and others. > > > Goal: Remember we want to be able to pay an engineer (cost 55K). > > Constraints: We do not want a special license for people participating to the consortium and the others. > It means that members may not have immediate advantages like 10% reduction :). > But it also means that the system is clean, simple, …. > > > Proposals: > > Individual Member: > - Free membership > > Institutional Member: (like Lab, University….) > - 1000 Euros > > Company > - First level support: 2000-3000 Euros > > - Extended Support: 5000-6000 Euros > > Then finally we want to have a donation for >500 Euros > > > Now with these numbers: we can do it. It may be tight but this would be a huge success! > > > we need > 20 first level support > 2000 Euros * 20 = 40000 > two extended > 5000 Euros * 2 = 12000 > > 5 institutionals > 5* 1000 = 5000 > > Gift: > 500 * 10 = 5000 > > > So let us know what do you think? > > Stef -- www.tudorgirba.com "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." |
On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:35 AM, Tudor Girba wrote: > Hi, > > I think the individual membership should not be free. Being part of the consortium should be meaningful. > > So, I propose that a membership requires one of two: > 1. make a gift, or > 2. present the evidence of three relevant commits to Pharo or adjacent projects. > > Of course, most people will fall under the second category anyway. But, like this, when one adds the badge of "Proud Pharo supporter" to his webpage it has a factual meaning. > > What do you think? this is ok for me. > > Cheers, > Doru > > p.s. And 5000 * 2 = 10000. Luckily, it's probably not going to be Stef taking care of the finance details :) Indeed I was thinking about the about the other range. Stef > > > > On 3 Dec 2011, at 10:00, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > >> HI >> >> We would like to get your point of view about the following (we discussed with INRIA lawyer and others. >> >> >> Goal: Remember we want to be able to pay an engineer (cost 55K). >> >> Constraints: We do not want a special license for people participating to the consortium and the others. >> It means that members may not have immediate advantages like 10% reduction :). >> But it also means that the system is clean, simple, …. >> >> >> Proposals: >> >> Individual Member: >> - Free membership >> >> Institutional Member: (like Lab, University….) >> - 1000 Euros >> >> Company >> - First level support: 2000-3000 Euros >> >> - Extended Support: 5000-6000 Euros >> >> Then finally we want to have a donation for >500 Euros >> >> >> Now with these numbers: we can do it. It may be tight but this would be a huge success! >> >> >> we need >> 20 first level support >> 2000 Euros * 20 = 40000 >> two extended >> 5000 Euros * 2 = 12000 >> >> 5 institutionals >> 5* 1000 = 5000 >> >> Gift: >> 500 * 10 = 5000 >> >> >> So let us know what do you think? >> >> Stef > > -- > www.tudorgirba.com > > "There are no old things, there are only old ways of looking at them." > > > > |
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Hi Steph,
It could be nice to have something between the Individual Member and the company first level support. Something like 'Freelance' for 1000€ maybe ? On 03/12/11 01:00, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: > HI > > We would like to get your point of view about the following (we discussed with INRIA lawyer and others. > > > Goal: Remember we want to be able to pay an engineer (cost 55K). > > Constraints: We do not want a special license for people participating to the consortium and the others. > It means that members may not have immediate advantages like 10% reduction :). > But it also means that the system is clean, simple, …. > > > Proposals: > > Individual Member: > - Free membership > > Institutional Member: (like Lab, University….) > - 1000 Euros > > Company > - First level support: 2000-3000 Euros > > - Extended Support: 5000-6000 Euros > > Then finally we want to have a donation for>500 Euros > > > Now with these numbers: we can do it. It may be tight but this would be a huge success! > > > we need > 20 first level support > 2000 Euros * 20 = 40000 > two extended > 5000 Euros * 2 = 12000 > > 5 institutionals > 5* 1000 = 5000 > > Gift: > 500 * 10 = 5000 > > > So let us know what do you think? > > Stef -- http://tulipemoutarde.be BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 CA: +1 778 558 3225 |
On Dec 3, 2011, at 10:25 PM, Francois Stephany wrote: > Hi Steph, > > It could be nice to have something between the Individual Member and the company first level support. Something like 'Freelance' for 1000€ maybe ? Would it not be covered by a donation? I ask because we try also to make it simple. But we are listening to you :) Stef > > On 03/12/11 01:00, Stéphane Ducasse wrote: >> HI >> >> We would like to get your point of view about the following (we discussed with INRIA lawyer and others. >> >> >> Goal: Remember we want to be able to pay an engineer (cost 55K). >> >> Constraints: We do not want a special license for people participating to the consortium and the others. >> It means that members may not have immediate advantages like 10% reduction :). >> But it also means that the system is clean, simple, …. >> >> >> Proposals: >> >> Individual Member: >> - Free membership >> >> Institutional Member: (like Lab, University….) >> - 1000 Euros >> >> Company >> - First level support: 2000-3000 Euros >> >> - Extended Support: 5000-6000 Euros >> >> Then finally we want to have a donation for>500 Euros >> >> >> Now with these numbers: we can do it. It may be tight but this would be a huge success! >> >> >> we need >> 20 first level support >> 2000 Euros * 20 = 40000 >> two extended >> 5000 Euros * 2 = 12000 >> >> 5 institutionals >> 5* 1000 = 5000 >> >> Gift: >> 500 * 10 = 5000 >> >> >> So let us know what do you think? >> >> Stef > > -- > http://tulipemoutarde.be > BE: +32 (0)65 709 131 > CA: +1 778 558 3225 > |
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