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Copy/past doesn't work sometimes

Julien Delplanque
Hello,

I'm using pharo 3.9-7 and I notice that sometimes the copy/past function
from another program to the pharo IDE doesn't work.

For example, if I copy something from my internet browser (Chromium) to
a workspace in the IDE it doesn't work.

I also notice that if I copy something from my text editor (Sublime
text) to a workspace it works...

ArchLinux version:

Linux msi 3.15.5-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 11 07:56:02 CEST 2014
x86_64 GNU/Linux

My Pharo VM version:

3.9-7 #1 Thu May 15 18:29:30 CEST 2014 gcc 4.6.3 [Production ITHB VM]
NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit:
ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200
By: Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> Jenkins build #14826
Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Thank you in advance for your responses!

Julien

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Re: Copy/past doesn't work sometimes

Peter Uhnak
I have the same problem on Debian, on both Pharo 3 and 4.
I think that Chromium is doing something weird when copying to clipboard, because every other program I've tried works just fine.
As a workaround I've installed clipboard manager and I copy from there (or paste and re-copy in some other text editor currently opened).

Linux has multiple clipboards (at least one when copying text and one for currently selected text), so maybe Chromium uses the wrong one, or Pharo is checking only one?

Peter


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello,

I'm using pharo 3.9-7 and I notice that sometimes the copy/past function
from another program to the pharo IDE doesn't work.

For example, if I copy something from my internet browser (Chromium) to
a workspace in the IDE it doesn't work.

I also notice that if I copy something from my text editor (Sublime
text) to a workspace it works...

ArchLinux version:

Linux msi 3.15.5-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 11 07:56:02 CEST 2014
x86_64 GNU/Linux

My Pharo VM version:

3.9-7 #1 Thu May 15 18:29:30 CEST 2014 gcc 4.6.3 [Production ITHB VM]
NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit:
ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200
By: Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> Jenkins build #14826
Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

Thank you in advance for your responses!

Julien


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Re: Copy/past doesn't work sometimes

stepharo
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I can tell you that I have the same problem between mac application
themselves. :)

On 29/7/14 17:06, Julien Delplanque wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I'm using pharo 3.9-7 and I notice that sometimes the copy/past function
> from another program to the pharo IDE doesn't work.
>
> For example, if I copy something from my internet browser (Chromium) to
> a workspace in the IDE it doesn't work.
>
> I also notice that if I copy something from my text editor (Sublime
> text) to a workspace it works...
>
> ArchLinux version:
>
> Linux msi 3.15.5-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 11 07:56:02 CEST 2014
> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> My Pharo VM version:
>
> 3.9-7 #1 Thu May 15 18:29:30 CEST 2014 gcc 4.6.3 [Production ITHB VM]
> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit:
> ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200
> By: Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> Jenkins build #14826
> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>
> Thank you in advance for your responses!
>
> Julien
>
>


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Re: Copy/past doesn't work sometimes

Julien Delplanque
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I also notice the problem when I copy something from my terminal
("drop-down terminal" or "terminator" on Gnome3) to pharo IDE.

Very annoying to copy text from Chromium to Sublime text and then recopy
it from Sublime text to Pharo IDE even if (sadly) it became a habit...

On 29/07/14 20:10, Peter Uhnák wrote:

> I have the same problem on Debian, on both Pharo 3 and 4.
> I think that Chromium is doing something weird when copying to clipboard,
> because every other program I've tried works just fine.
> As a workaround I've installed clipboard manager and I copy from there (or
> paste and re-copy in some other text editor currently opened).
>
> Linux has multiple clipboards (at least one when copying text and one for
> currently selected text), so maybe Chromium uses the wrong one, or Pharo is
> checking only one?
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm using pharo 3.9-7 and I notice that sometimes the copy/past function
>> from another program to the pharo IDE doesn't work.
>>
>> For example, if I copy something from my internet browser (Chromium) to
>> a workspace in the IDE it doesn't work.
>>
>> I also notice that if I copy something from my text editor (Sublime
>> text) to a workspace it works...
>>
>> ArchLinux version:
>>
>> Linux msi 3.15.5-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 11 07:56:02 CEST 2014
>> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> My Pharo VM version:
>>
>> 3.9-7 #1 Thu May 15 18:29:30 CEST 2014 gcc 4.6.3 [Production ITHB VM]
>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit:
>> ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200
>> By: Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> Jenkins build #14826
>> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
>> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your responses!
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>


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Re: Copy/past doesn't work sometimes

Peter Uhnak
Today I found out that if I have running xclipboard in the background pasting works properly even from Chromium. The problem is that it's a GUI app and will store everything that I've copied unless manually deleted. But you can give it a shot. Haven't really tested how it deals with non-text content (images).
Also I tried to dig a little bit into how it is handled inside Pharo, but it is somewhere deep in VM. :(
However middle-click pasting doesn't work but that seem to be simply a limitation of Pharo (My guess is because it is only supported by Linux and not Windows/Mac?).


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
I also notice the problem when I copy something from my terminal
("drop-down terminal" or "terminator" on Gnome3) to pharo IDE.

Very annoying to copy text from Chromium to Sublime text and then recopy
it from Sublime text to Pharo IDE even if (sadly) it became a habit...

On 29/07/14 20:10, Peter Uhnák wrote:
> I have the same problem on Debian, on both Pharo 3 and 4.
> I think that Chromium is doing something weird when copying to clipboard,
> because every other program I've tried works just fine.
> As a workaround I've installed clipboard manager and I copy from there (or
> paste and re-copy in some other text editor currently opened).
>
> Linux has multiple clipboards (at least one when copying text and one for
> currently selected text), so maybe Chromium uses the wrong one, or Pharo is
> checking only one?
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm using pharo 3.9-7 and I notice that sometimes the copy/past function
>> from another program to the pharo IDE doesn't work.
>>
>> For example, if I copy something from my internet browser (Chromium) to
>> a workspace in the IDE it doesn't work.
>>
>> I also notice that if I copy something from my text editor (Sublime
>> text) to a workspace it works...
>>
>> ArchLinux version:
>>
>> Linux msi 3.15.5-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 11 07:56:02 CEST 2014
>> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> My Pharo VM version:
>>
>> 3.9-7 #1 Thu May 15 18:29:30 CEST 2014 gcc 4.6.3 [Production ITHB VM]
>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit:
>> ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200
>> By: Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> Jenkins build #14826
>> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
>> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your responses!
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>



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Re: Copy/past doesn't work sometimes

Peter Uhnak
It seems that the Chromium issue is most likely a result of them switching from GTK to Aura, since it broke in version 35 (when Aura was introduced). So unless someone wants to dive into Pharo VM or Chromium then there is really no simple solution.


On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
Today I found out that if I have running xclipboard in the background pasting works properly even from Chromium. The problem is that it's a GUI app and will store everything that I've copied unless manually deleted. But you can give it a shot. Haven't really tested how it deals with non-text content (images).
Also I tried to dig a little bit into how it is handled inside Pharo, but it is somewhere deep in VM. :(
However middle-click pasting doesn't work but that seem to be simply a limitation of Pharo (My guess is because it is only supported by Linux and not Windows/Mac?).


On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
I also notice the problem when I copy something from my terminal
("drop-down terminal" or "terminator" on Gnome3) to pharo IDE.

Very annoying to copy text from Chromium to Sublime text and then recopy
it from Sublime text to Pharo IDE even if (sadly) it became a habit...

On 29/07/14 20:10, Peter Uhnák wrote:
> I have the same problem on Debian, on both Pharo 3 and 4.
> I think that Chromium is doing something weird when copying to clipboard,
> because every other program I've tried works just fine.
> As a workaround I've installed clipboard manager and I copy from there (or
> paste and re-copy in some other text editor currently opened).
>
> Linux has multiple clipboards (at least one when copying text and one for
> currently selected text), so maybe Chromium uses the wrong one, or Pharo is
> checking only one?
>
> Peter
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm using pharo 3.9-7 and I notice that sometimes the copy/past function
>> from another program to the pharo IDE doesn't work.
>>
>> For example, if I copy something from my internet browser (Chromium) to
>> a workspace in the IDE it doesn't work.
>>
>> I also notice that if I copy something from my text editor (Sublime
>> text) to a workspace it works...
>>
>> ArchLinux version:
>>
>> Linux msi 3.15.5-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 11 07:56:02 CEST 2014
>> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>
>> My Pharo VM version:
>>
>> 3.9-7 #1 Thu May 15 18:29:30 CEST 2014 gcc 4.6.3 [Production ITHB VM]
>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit:
>> ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04 +0200
>> By: Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> Jenkins build #14826
>> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7 16:39:45
>> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your responses!
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>




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Re: Copy/past doesn't work sometimes

Julien Delplanque
Ok, so I'll have to get used to it or switch to another web browser
while using pharo.

Thanks for your answers.

On 31/07/14 10:44, Peter Uhnák wrote:

> It seems that the Chromium issue is most likely a result of them switching
> from GTK to Aura, since it broke in version 35 (when Aura was introduced).
> So unless someone wants to dive into Pharo VM or Chromium then there is
> really no simple solution.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 9:10 PM, Peter Uhnák <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Today I found out that if I have running xclipboard in the background
>> pasting works properly even from Chromium. The problem is that it's a GUI
>> app and will store everything that I've copied unless manually deleted. But
>> you can give it a shot. Haven't really tested how it deals with non-text
>> content (images).
>> Also I tried to dig a little bit into how it is handled inside Pharo, but
>> it is somewhere deep in VM. :(
>> However middle-click pasting doesn't work but that seem to be simply a
>> limitation of Pharo (My guess is because it is only supported by Linux and
>> not Windows/Mac?).
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 9:42 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I also notice the problem when I copy something from my terminal
>>> ("drop-down terminal" or "terminator" on Gnome3) to pharo IDE.
>>>
>>> Very annoying to copy text from Chromium to Sublime text and then recopy
>>> it from Sublime text to Pharo IDE even if (sadly) it became a habit...
>>>
>>> On 29/07/14 20:10, Peter Uhnák wrote:
>>>> I have the same problem on Debian, on both Pharo 3 and 4.
>>>> I think that Chromium is doing something weird when copying to
>>> clipboard,
>>>> because every other program I've tried works just fine.
>>>> As a workaround I've installed clipboard manager and I copy from there
>>> (or
>>>> paste and re-copy in some other text editor currently opened).
>>>>
>>>> Linux has multiple clipboards (at least one when copying text and one
>>> for
>>>> currently selected text), so maybe Chromium uses the wrong one, or
>>> Pharo is
>>>> checking only one?
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:06 PM, Julien Delplanque <[hidden email]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using pharo 3.9-7 and I notice that sometimes the copy/past
>>> function
>>>>> from another program to the pharo IDE doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, if I copy something from my internet browser (Chromium) to
>>>>> a workspace in the IDE it doesn't work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also notice that if I copy something from my text editor (Sublime
>>>>> text) to a workspace it works...
>>>>>
>>>>> ArchLinux version:
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux msi 3.15.5-2-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 11 07:56:02 CEST 2014
>>>>> x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>
>>>>> My Pharo VM version:
>>>>>
>>>>> 3.9-7 #1 Thu May 15 18:29:30 CEST 2014 gcc 4.6.3 [Production ITHB VM]
>>>>> NBCoInterpreter NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>>>>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
>>>>> NBCogit NativeBoost-CogPlugin-GuillermoPolito.19 uuid:
>>>>> acc98e51-2fba-4841-a965-2975997bba66 May 15 2014
>>>>> https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo-vm.git Commit:
>>>>> ed4a4f59208968a21d82fd2406f75c2c4de558b2 Date: 2014-05-15 18:23:04
>>> +0200
>>>>> By: Esteban Lorenzano <[hidden email]> Jenkins build #14826
>>>>> Linux pharo-linux 3.2.0-31-generic-pae #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 7
>>> 16:39:45
>>>>> UTC 2012 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you in advance for your responses!
>>>>>
>>>>> Julien
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>