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Crypto should be part of base

Stephan Eggermont-3
 >Ok, in the past I've built the DES plugin for the macintosh. However  
I should point out that Cryptography should NOT be made part of the  
base VM. Why? Well the >USA government then wants you to fill out  
export paperwork if you are USA company or selling product thru the  
USA that someone that doesn't live in the USA >could buy. An example  
of this is when you submit apps to the Apple iPhone app store, then  
you are asked if the product includes any encryption and if you have  
 >done the paperwork. Yes I know this is a irksome rule, but people  
should be aware of the implications.

I strongly disagree. All systems should include strong cryptography.
The US government might want to change its policy. US citizens and
companies being forced to comply with silly regulations should not be
a concern of others.

Stephan Eggermont

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Re: Crypto should be part of base

Igor Stasenko
2009/5/25 Stephan Eggermont <[hidden email]>:

>  >Ok, in the past I've built the DES plugin for the macintosh. However
> I should point out that Cryptography should NOT be made part of the
> base VM. Why? Well the >USA government then wants you to fill out
> export paperwork if you are USA company or selling product thru the
> USA that someone that doesn't live in the USA >could buy. An example
> of this is when you submit apps to the Apple iPhone app store, then
> you are asked if the product includes any encryption and if you have
>  >done the paperwork. Yes I know this is a irksome rule, but people
> should be aware of the implications.
>
> I strongly disagree. All systems should include strong cryptography.
> The US government might want to change its policy. US citizens and
> companies being forced to comply with silly regulations should not be
> a concern of others.
>

Is DES encryption available through OS/external libraries, or
implemented completely by plugin?

P.S. i feel sorry, that US citizens should obey to such silly regulations.

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Re: Crypto should be part of base

johnmci
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On 25-May-09, at 7:36 AM, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
>> I strongly disagree. All systems should include strong cryptography.
> The US government might want to change its policy. US citizens and
> companies being forced to comply with silly regulations should not be
> a concern of others.
>
> Stephan Eggermont

Well I can step back from my more sweeping comment, and say if it's  
there please ensure I
can unload it without hassle, that would work too. Also enable people  
then to use it out
of the box which I agree is more useful.

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Re: Crypto should be part of base

Stephan Eggermont-3
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 >Well I can step back from my more sweeping comment,
 >and say if it's there please ensure I can unload it without hassle,
 >that would work too.
 >Also enable people then to use it out of the box
 >which I agree is more useful.
Thank you. I think we're all for easy unloadable code, here. :)

Stephan Eggermont

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