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Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Petr Fischer
Hello!

I assume that Ctrl+W is a widely used keyboard shortcut for closing windows or a tab, if the window is "tabbed" (it works in web browsers, some desktops, Linux, IE, Mac OS X...).

But when I start up some exploration session in GT inspector,  I have several tabs opened in a second - then, after Ctrl+W, not the actual tab, but the whole window is immediately closed, gosh...
Same situation in "window groups" (when you created tabbed window group from browser/Calypso) - Ctrl+W behaves weird.

Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the actual tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last tab), then close the window?

Tested in Pharo 5, 6 and 6.1.

pf

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Re: Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Alistair Grant
On 19 March 2018 at 10:07, Petr Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Hello!
>
> I assume that Ctrl+W is a widely used keyboard shortcut for closing windows or a tab, if the window is "tabbed" (it works in web browsers, some desktops, Linux, IE, Mac OS X...).
>
> But when I start up some exploration session in GT inspector,  I have several tabs opened in a second - then, after Ctrl+W, not the actual tab, but the whole window is immediately closed, gosh...
> Same situation in "window groups" (when you created tabbed window group from browser/Calypso) - Ctrl+W behaves weird.
>
> Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the actual tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last tab), then close the window?
>
> Tested in Pharo 5, 6 and 6.1.
>
> pf

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Re: Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Denis Kudriashov
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Hi.

Are you sure that Calypso closes full window instead of single tab?
Because I use it all the time and it works for me in the way you described.

2018-03-19 10:07 GMT+01:00 Petr Fischer <[hidden email]>:
Hello!

I assume that Ctrl+W is a widely used keyboard shortcut for closing windows or a tab, if the window is "tabbed" (it works in web browsers, some desktops, Linux, IE, Mac OS X...).

But when I start up some exploration session in GT inspector,  I have several tabs opened in a second - then, after Ctrl+W, not the actual tab, but the whole window is immediately closed, gosh...
Same situation in "window groups" (when you created tabbed window group from browser/Calypso) - Ctrl+W behaves weird.

Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the actual tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last tab), then close the window?

Tested in Pharo 5, 6 and 6.1.

pf


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Re: Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Ben Coman
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On 19 March 2018 at 17:07, Petr Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello!

I assume that Ctrl+W is a widely used keyboard shortcut for closing windows or a tab, if the window is "tabbed" (it works in web browsers, some desktops, Linux, IE, Mac OS X...).

But when I start up some exploration session in GT inspector,  I have several tabs opened in a second - then, after Ctrl+W, not the actual tab, but the whole window is immediately closed, gosh...
Same situation in "window groups" (when you created tabbed window group from browser/Calypso) - Ctrl+W behaves weird.

Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the actual tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last tab), then close the window?

Actually I never knew that shortcut, but I will now.  
I see it works that way in both Chrome and InternetExplorer and web browsers are a good benchmark.
But its not "critical" so I think it will be tough convincing someone to work on it for 5.0, 6.0, 6.1.
For 7 it sounds like a good idea.

cheers -ben
 

Tested in Pharo 5, 6 and 6.1.

pf


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Re: Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Petr Fischer
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It's completely weird:

1) first Ctrl+W closes the "content" of the tab
2) second Ctrl+W closes whole tabbed window

Look at thos video: https://youtu.be/MUcYNGnDAR8

pf

> Hi.
>
> Are you sure that Calypso closes full window instead of single tab?
> Because I use it all the time and it works for me in the way you described.
>
> 2018-03-19 10:07 GMT+01:00 Petr Fischer <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I assume that Ctrl+W is a widely used keyboard shortcut for closing
> > windows or a tab, if the window is "tabbed" (it works in web browsers, some
> > desktops, Linux, IE, Mac OS X...).
> >
> > But when I start up some exploration session in GT inspector,  I have
> > several tabs opened in a second - then, after Ctrl+W, not the actual tab,
> > but the whole window is immediately closed, gosh...
> > Same situation in "window groups" (when you created tabbed window group
> > from browser/Calypso) - Ctrl+W behaves weird.
> >
> > Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the actual
> > tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last tab),
> > then close the window?
> >
> > Tested in Pharo 5, 6 and 6.1.
> >
> > pf
> >
> >

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Re: Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Petr Fischer
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> On 19 March 2018 at 17:07, Petr Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I assume that Ctrl+W is a widely used keyboard shortcut for closing
> > windows or a tab, if the window is "tabbed" (it works in web browsers, some
> > desktops, Linux, IE, Mac OS X...).
> >
> > But when I start up some exploration session in GT inspector,  I have
> > several tabs opened in a second - then, after Ctrl+W, not the actual tab,
> > but the whole window is immediately closed, gosh...
> > Same situation in "window groups" (when you created tabbed window group
> > from browser/Calypso) - Ctrl+W behaves weird.
> >
> > Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the actual
> > tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last tab),
> > then close the window?
> >
>
> Actually I never knew that shortcut, but I will now.
> I see it works that way in both Chrome and InternetExplorer and web
> browsers are a good benchmark.
> But its not "critical" so I think it will be tough convincing someone to
> work on it for 5.0, 6.0, 6.1.
> For 7 it sounds like a good idea.

Should I enter the issue to the Fogbuz (for Pharo 7)?

pf

>
> cheers -ben
>
>
> >
> > Tested in Pharo 5, 6 and 6.1.
> >
> > pf
> >
> >

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Re: Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Denis Kudriashov
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Ok. I see.

It is not scenario which I used.
Now I fixed it in dev version


2018-03-19 13:32 GMT+01:00 Petr Fischer <[hidden email]>:
It's completely weird:

1) first Ctrl+W closes the "content" of the tab
2) second Ctrl+W closes whole tabbed window

Look at thos video: https://youtu.be/MUcYNGnDAR8

pf

> Hi.
>
> Are you sure that Calypso closes full window instead of single tab?
> Because I use it all the time and it works for me in the way you described.
>
> 2018-03-19 10:07 GMT+01:00 Petr Fischer <[hidden email]>:
>
> > Hello!
> >
> > I assume that Ctrl+W is a widely used keyboard shortcut for closing
> > windows or a tab, if the window is "tabbed" (it works in web browsers, some
> > desktops, Linux, IE, Mac OS X...).
> >
> > But when I start up some exploration session in GT inspector,  I have
> > several tabs opened in a second - then, after Ctrl+W, not the actual tab,
> > but the whole window is immediately closed, gosh...
> > Same situation in "window groups" (when you created tabbed window group
> > from browser/Calypso) - Ctrl+W behaves weird.
> >
> > Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the actual
> > tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last tab),
> > then close the window?
> >
> > Tested in Pharo 5, 6 and 6.1.
> >
> > pf
> >
> >


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Re: Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Petr Fischer
> Ok. I see.
>
> It is not scenario which I used.
> Now I fixed it in dev version

Wow that's fast! Next time I will use github issues for it (probably the preferred way).
Thanks.

> 2018-03-19 13:32 GMT+01:00 Petr Fischer <[hidden email]>:
>
> > It's completely weird:
> >
> > 1) first Ctrl+W closes the "content" of the tab
> > 2) second Ctrl+W closes whole tabbed window
> >
> > Look at thos video: https://youtu.be/MUcYNGnDAR8
> >
> > pf
> >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > Are you sure that Calypso closes full window instead of single tab?
> > > Because I use it all the time and it works for me in the way you
> > described.
> > >
> > > 2018-03-19 10:07 GMT+01:00 Petr Fischer <[hidden email]>:
> > >
> > > > Hello!
> > > >
> > > > I assume that Ctrl+W is a widely used keyboard shortcut for closing
> > > > windows or a tab, if the window is "tabbed" (it works in web browsers,
> > some
> > > > desktops, Linux, IE, Mac OS X...).
> > > >
> > > > But when I start up some exploration session in GT inspector,  I have
> > > > several tabs opened in a second - then, after Ctrl+W, not the actual
> > tab,
> > > > but the whole window is immediately closed, gosh...
> > > > Same situation in "window groups" (when you created tabbed window group
> > > > from browser/Calypso) - Ctrl+W behaves weird.
> > > >
> > > > Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the
> > actual
> > > > tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last
> > tab),
> > > > then close the window?
> > > >
> > > > Tested in Pharo 5, 6 and 6.1.
> > > >
> > > > pf
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >

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Re: Ctrl+W in tabbed windows (GT inspector, browser/Calypso)

Esteban A. Maringolo
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2018-03-19 7:08 GMT-03:00 Ben Coman <[hidden email]>:

> On 19 March 2018 at 17:07, Petr Fischer <[hidden email]> wrote:
>> Is everyone in comfort with the idea that Ctrl+W should close the actual
>> tab, and if there is no tab in the window (or actual tab is the last tab),
>> then close the window?
>
>
> Actually I never knew that shortcut, but I will now.
> I see it works that way in both Chrome and InternetExplorer and web browsers
> are a good benchmark.

It's the sibling of Ctrl+Tab and Ctrl+Shift+Tab to move forward or
backward in a list of tabs.

I use it a lot.


Esteban A. Maringolo