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I'd like to hit the ground running at ESUG and arrive with a working development environment for at ESUG. I'd appreciate it if somebody could answer me the following questions - What is the recommended Pharo Version on macOS X? I'm using PharoLauncher to download 6.1 32 bit and ignore the warnings. Downloading 6.1 directly results in corrupt files - How do I checkout the code and load it into the image? My last information was that both Grease and Seaside as FileTree repositories, and that Grease is metadata-less. Is this still correct? Should I check out using git and then add the Monticello repositories or should I use Metacello? Should I use Iceberg or rather not? Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ seaside-dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/seaside-dev |
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I’m using 6.1 64-bit (direct downloads) and 7 (via PharoLauncher). Pharo 7 version of Seaside is WIP: https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/tree/pharo7 Also mind that some changes to master have not been added to develop yet: https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/pull/989
Correct, except that Grease is metadataless only for the Pharo7 package (since I did that with Iceberg). Unfortunately, that makes it unloadable in Pharo3-4 as well.
Using Iceberg means: metadataless and thus we drop support for a number of platforms. TBD? Johan _______________________________________________ seaside-dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/seaside-dev |
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On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM Johan Brichau <[hidden email]> wrote:
> > > > On 4 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]> wrote: > > Hi > > I'd like to hit the ground running at ESUG and arrive with a working > development environment for at ESUG. I'd appreciate it if somebody > could answer me the following questions > - What is the recommended Pharo Version on macOS X? I'm using > PharoLauncher to download 6.1 32 bit and ignore the warnings. > Downloading 6.1 directly results in corrupt files > > > I’m using 6.1 64-bit (direct downloads) and 7 (via PharoLauncher). > > Pharo 7 version of Seaside is WIP: https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/tree/pharo7 > Also mind that some changes to master have not been added to develop yet: https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/pull/989 > > - How do I checkout the code and load it into the image? My last > information was that both Grease and Seaside as FileTree repositories, > and that Grease is metadata-less. Is this still correct? > > > Correct, except that Grease is metadataless only for the Pharo7 package (since I did that with Iceberg). > Unfortunately, that makes it unloadable in Pharo3-4 as well. > > Should I > check out using git and then add the Monticello repositories or should > I use Metacello? Should I use Iceberg or rather not? > > > Using Iceberg means: metadataless and thus we drop support for a number of platforms. ... [show rest of quote] Thanks for the info, that helps. Do you know which platforms that would be? Cheers Philippe _______________________________________________ seaside-dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/seaside-dev |
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Le 05/09/2018 à 13:41, Philippe Marschall a écrit :
>> Using Iceberg means: metadataless and thus we drop support for a number of platforms. > > Thanks for the info, that helps. Do you know which platforms that would be? > Hi, On Pharo side, metadataless is supported by Pharo 5 to 7 IIRC. So the drop would be for Pharo < 5. > Cheers > Philippe > _______________________________________________ > seaside-dev mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/seaside-dev > -- Cyril Ferlicot https://ferlicot.fr _______________________________________________ seaside-dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/seaside-dev |
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Hi Philippe
> On 05.09.2018, at 13:41, Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]> wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 4, 2018 at 12:59 PM Johan Brichau <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 4 Sep 2018, at 11:54, Philippe Marschall <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I'd like to hit the ground running at ESUG and arrive with a working >> development environment for at ESUG. I'd appreciate it if somebody >> could answer me the following questions >> - What is the recommended Pharo Version on macOS X? I'm using >> PharoLauncher to download 6.1 32 bit and ignore the warnings. >> Downloading 6.1 directly results in corrupt files >> >> >> I’m using 6.1 64-bit (direct downloads) and 7 (via PharoLauncher). >> >> Pharo 7 version of Seaside is WIP: https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/tree/pharo7 >> Also mind that some changes to master have not been added to develop yet: https://github.com/SeasideSt/Seaside/pull/989 >> >> - How do I checkout the code and load it into the image? My last >> information was that both Grease and Seaside as FileTree repositories, >> and that Grease is metadata-less. Is this still correct? >> >> >> Correct, except that Grease is metadataless only for the Pharo7 package (since I did that with Iceberg). >> Unfortunately, that makes it unloadable in Pharo3-4 as well. >> >> Should I >> check out using git and then add the Monticello repositories or should >> I use Metacello? Should I use Iceberg or rather not? >> >> >> Using Iceberg means: metadataless and thus we drop support for a number of platforms. > > Thanks for the info, that helps. Do you know which platforms that would be? ... [show rest of quote] For Squeak deployment metadataless works. For Squeak development, metadataless won't (currently) work in any version. Best regards -Tobias _______________________________________________ seaside-dev mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/seaside-dev |
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Philippe,
For Seaside, I’m inclined to say we can go ahead dropping support for metadataless platforms on a new release. For Grease, it has happened already :0 (but I was keeping an idea on fixing that if required). Basically, if anyone wants to use latest version of Seaside/Grease on older platforms, it’s the supporting packages like Filetree others that require updating. Dale made a good point here that it should be feasible: https://github.com/hpi-swa/smalltalkCI/issues/334#issuecomment-342575918 However, it seems that filetree also poses issues on Windows (file names too long) and we should rather move to Tonel format. Tonel also works a lot quicker checking out the repo and switching branches because of it requires far fewer files. But I have not tried to use Tonel on Gemstone, for starters. So, hoping to know a bit more about this at ESUG. cheers, Johan
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As I picked up pharo7 work again after my holidays, I remember I did the pharo7 branch using Iceberg as well.
So: no metadata anymore in that branch either ;) We can decide to redo the changes in metadatafull filetree or we can decide to drop support. I will hold off merging in the branch (and there are some failing tests to fix first anyway). cheers Johan ps: I will arrive Sunday evening but need to spend half a day at Rome airport before that. I will probably try to get some work done on Seaside at that time, ps2: I’m always on the Slack channel
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