Deleted or renamed behaviors

> Hi all,
>
> Is there a tool to observe the replacements of renamed or removed
> methods in Pharo?
> Because it happened to me several times, when loading a package in
> Pharo two or three months after I've released something, there are
> methods removed and I have to search the change comments everywhere
> (change log, mailing list, issues list, etc) and figure out the
> replacements, and sometimes it isn't so direct.
> Cheers,
>
> Hernán
>
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> not directly but indeed we should be much more imaginative with our tools.
> Now I'm spending my time on not really funny or exciting actions so I do not have time
> to invent new stuff and this is bad.
> I'm trying to make sure that this situation will change but so far still crawling.
> This is why we will add RB in Unstable because we should use powertools in Unstable.
>
> Stef
>
> On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Is there a tool to observe the replacements of renamed or removed
>> methods in Pharo?
>> Because it happened to me several times, when loading a package in
>> Pharo two or three months after I've released something, there are
>> methods removed and I have to search the change comments everywhere
>> (change log, mailing list, issues list, etc) and figure out the
>> replacements, and sometimes it isn't so direct.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Pharo-project mailing list
>> [hidden email]
>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>
>
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> Ok, thanks for the reply. I've created a repository in SqS for a tool
> supporting better tracking of change history
>
> http://www.squeaksource.com/ChangeTracker.html
>
> please do not hesitate to contact me to join this project. I'm
> planning to use the OB framework but any suggestions are welcomed.
> Cheers,
>
> Hernán
>
> 2010/8/31 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>> not directly but indeed we should be much more imaginative with our tools.
>> Now I'm spending my time on not really funny or exciting actions so I do not have time
>> to invent new stuff and this is bad.
>> I'm trying to make sure that this situation will change but so far still crawling.
>> This is why we will add RB in Unstable because we should use powertools in Unstable.
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Is there a tool to observe the replacements of renamed or removed
>>> methods in Pharo?
>>> Because it happened to me several times, when loading a package in
>>> Pharo two or three months after I've released something, there are
>>> methods removed and I have to search the change comments everywhere
>>> (change log, mailing list, issues list, etc) and figure out the
>>> replacements, and sometimes it isn't so direct.
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Hernán
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>
>>
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> what is the idea?
>
> What we want to do with veronica is
>        - get a declarative code model (MC2/Ginsu) -->
>        - put all the version of squeak and pharo in a Gemstone DB
>        - make sure that we can do historized queries
>                sender in version 1.0
>        - diff between versions
>
> Stef
>
> On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>
>> Ok, thanks for the reply. I've created a repository in SqS for a tool
>> supporting better tracking of change history
>>
>> http://www.squeaksource.com/ChangeTracker.html
>>
>> please do not hesitate to contact me to join this project. I'm
>> planning to use the OB framework but any suggestions are welcomed.
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hernán
>>
>> 2010/8/31 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>> not directly but indeed we should be much more imaginative with our tools.
>>> Now I'm spending my time on not really funny or exciting actions so I do not have time
>>> to invent new stuff and this is bad.
>>> I'm trying to make sure that this situation will change but so far still crawling.
>>> This is why we will add RB in Unstable because we should use powertools in Unstable.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Is there a tool to observe the replacements of renamed or removed
>>>> methods in Pharo?
>>>> Because it happened to me several times, when loading a package in
>>>> Pharo two or three months after I've released something, there are
>>>> methods removed and I have to search the change comments everywhere
>>>> (change log, mailing list, issues list, etc) and figure out the
>>>> replacements, and sometimes it isn't so direct.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Hernán
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>> [hidden email]
>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> [hidden email]
>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>
>>
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> Hi Stef,
>
> I don't aspire an advanced tool or even build a model for this, just a
> tool for the short-term to track removed methods names or modified
> selectors so I can see what is the new selector or equivalent method
> to use instead, if such exists in the current image.
>
> Hernán
>
> 2010/9/1 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>> what is the idea?
>>
>> What we want to do with veronica is
>>        - get a declarative code model (MC2/Ginsu) -->
>>        - put all the version of squeak and pharo in a Gemstone DB
>>        - make sure that we can do historized queries
>>                sender in version 1.0
>>        - diff between versions
>>
>> Stef
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 9:17 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, thanks for the reply. I've created a repository in SqS for a tool
>>> supporting better tracking of change history
>>>
>>> http://www.squeaksource.com/ChangeTracker.html
>>>
>>> please do not hesitate to contact me to join this project. I'm
>>> planning to use the OB framework but any suggestions are welcomed.
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Hernán
>>>
>>> 2010/8/31 Stéphane Ducasse <[hidden email]>:
>>>> not directly but indeed we should be much more imaginative with our tools.
>>>> Now I'm spending my time on not really funny or exciting actions so I do not have time
>>>> to invent new stuff and this is bad.
>>>> I'm trying to make sure that this situation will change but so far still crawling.
>>>> This is why we will add RB in Unstable because we should use powertools in Unstable.
>>>>
>>>> Stef
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 31, 2010, at 6:46 PM, Hernán Morales Durand wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a tool to observe the replacements of renamed or removed
>>>>> methods in Pharo?
>>>>> Because it happened to me several times, when loading a package in
>>>>> Pharo two or three months after I've released something, there are
>>>>> methods removed and I have to search the change comments everywhere
>>>>> (change log, mailing list, issues list, etc) and figure out the
>>>>> replacements, and sometimes it isn't so direct.
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Hernán
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list
>>>>> [hidden email]
>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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