Design of WAComponent(s)

> Come on.
> I'm far from a newbie (at least I believe it) and this is
> boring to develop from scratch the same. I imagine that lot
> of people reuse their own component.
> When I write a desktop app, I'm not a newbie still I like to
> reuse window, buttons and label.
> At least I'm not interested in knowing how scrollbar and
> other details work.
> Where is the newbie here?
>
> Why people like to take extreme statements.

>
> Ramon> And that's the main point, Seaside is the foundation, it's not
> Ramon> supposed to be the ultimate component library nor
> should it try
> Ramon> to be, that's not what frameworks are for.  Frameworks
> serve as
> Ramon> the foundation of such libraries.
>
> For example, I'm looking at building up an entire library of
> Yahoo UI widgets (see http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/) and
> integrate them closely with Seaside.
> But it'll be a bolt-on "aftermarket" library.  I don't expect
> it to be included in the Seaside core.
>
> --
> Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. -

>> Come on.
>> I'm far from a newbie (at least I believe it) and this is
>> boring to develop from scratch the same. I imagine that lot
>> of people reuse their own component.
>> When I write a desktop app, I'm not a newbie still I like to
>> reuse window, buttons and label.
>> At least I'm not interested in knowing how scrollbar and
>> other details work.
>> Where is the newbie here?
>>
>> Why people like to take extreme statements.
>
> I don't think I'm making any extreme statements, it's not like Seaside
> doesn't give you controls, we're not talking about buttons,  
> scrollbars and
> labels here, at least that's not my impression.  We're talking about  
> more
> advanced non html components like tree widgets and datagrids, things  
> that
> are much more than just simple markup.  These things aren't stable,  
> every
> new js library that comes out has it's own take on how to do them,  
> which is
> why they don't belong in core, they belong in external component  
> libraries
> like Scriptaculous, or wrappers for Yahoo Widgets or Mootools.  The  
> core
> should be stable stuff, the stuff that deals with standard html  
> controls
> (labels, buttons, scrollbars, input boxes, checkboxes and such) that  
> don't
> change with the latest trend of what's cool.
>
> Ramon Leon
> http://onsmalltalk.com
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> -----Mensaje original-----
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> Enviado el: Jueves, 06 de Marzo de 2008 17:27
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> Asunto: [Seaside] Re: Design of WAComponent(s)
>
> "Sebastian Sastre" <[hidden email]> wrote
>
> > So I'm sure anyone capable of *using* MVP to develop desktop
> > apps will love to use this beacause the barrier to scale
> > that apps to web are lowered to a minimum.
>
> Do I hear an offer in there somewhere ... :-)
>
> Sophie
>