Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
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Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
 
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Hi,
the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. Dev09.11.4 looks fine Maybe is a preference setting? Hernan _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Re: Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
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Hi,
Laurent
2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson <[hidden email]> Hi, _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
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but why the previous verson of pharo worked fine? there must be
something different in this new image... 2009/12/8 laurent laffont <[hidden email]>: > Hi, > I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM Squeak-3.11.3.2135. > See: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 > Laurent > > 2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson <[hidden email]> >> >> Hi, >> the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files >> I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. >> Dev09.11.4 looks fine >> Maybe is a preference setting? >> Hernan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
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The default fonts were changed, now Bitmap StrikeFonts are used instead of a TrueType font.
Thus, the rendering method is completely different, and the use in StrikeFont rendering of some BitBlt methods revealed bugs in the alpha channel handling in said methods that previously went unnoticed. (Thus an updated VM/BitBlt plugin in required for them to render correctly). Cheers, Henry On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:27 44PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > but why the previous verson of pharo worked fine? there must be > something different in this new image... > > 2009/12/8 laurent laffont <[hidden email]>: >> Hi, >> I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM Squeak-3.11.3.2135. >> See: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 >> Laurent >> >> 2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson <[hidden email]> >>> >>> Hi, >>> the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files >>> I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. >>> Dev09.11.4 looks fine >>> Maybe is a preference setting? >>> Hernan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
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In reply to this post by hernan.wilkinson
On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > but why the previous verson of pharo worked fine? there must be > something different in this new image... > It uses pre-rendered sub-pixel fonts instead of rendering the fonts via FreeType. (Much faster, not quite as nice in details). Freetype fonts are available if needed, though. The pre-rendered fonts just replace the 80ties=looking Squeak fonts and provide a good enough selection for a development image. Marcus > 2009/12/8 laurent laffont <[hidden email]>: >> Hi, >> I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM Squeak-3.11.3.2135. >> See: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 >> Laurent >> >> 2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson <[hidden email]> >>> >>> Hi, >>> the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files >>> I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. >>> Dev09.11.4 looks fine >>> Maybe is a preference setting? >>> Hernan >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
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Would be nice to expose the technique used in FreeType for
underline/strikeout... even if only stub where rendered by a StrikeFont. Would help a lot for other canvas types (PDF, PostScript etc.)... For instance, a P{DF canvas would draw the underline using graphics primitives... Regards, Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> To: <[hidden email]> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:36 PM Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: > >> but why the previous verson of pharo worked fine? there must be >> something different in this new image... >> > > It uses pre-rendered sub-pixel fonts instead of rendering the fonts via > FreeType. > (Much faster, not quite as nice in details). > Freetype fonts are available if needed, though. The pre-rendered fonts > just replace > the 80ties=looking Squeak fonts and provide a good enough selection for a > development image. > > Marcus > > >> 2009/12/8 laurent laffont <[hidden email]>: >>> Hi, >>> I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM Squeak-3.11.3.2135. >>> See: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 >>> Laurent >>> >>> 2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson <[hidden email]> >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files >>>> I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. >>>> Dev09.11.4 looks fine >>>> Maybe is a preference setting? >>>> Hernan >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
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It should be explained somewhere how to replace StrikeFonts for FreeType.
Or even better, a preference for that maybe be cool. On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email]> wrote: Would be nice to expose the technique used in FreeType for _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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Why a preference? Its just a matter of selecting the font you like:
System > Preferences > System fonts In the Font Browser you can click on "Update" and you *should* get all your system fonts. The problem is, that the font browser does not update. If you open it again, you see the fonts. I filed an issue for 1.0/1.1: http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1562 Adrian On Dec 8, 2009, at 19:25 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > It should be explained somewhere how to replace StrikeFonts for > FreeType. > Or even better, a preference for that maybe be cool. > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email] > >wrote: > >> Would be nice to expose the technique used in FreeType for >> underline/strikeout... even if only stub where rendered by a >> StrikeFont. >> >> Would help a lot for other canvas types (PDF, PostScript etc.)... For >> instance, a P{DF canvas would draw the underline using graphics >> primitives... >> >> Regards, Gary >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> >> To: <[hidden email]> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:36 PM >> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux >> >> >>> >>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: >>> >>>> but why the previous verson of pharo worked fine? there must be >>>> something different in this new image... >>>> >>> >>> It uses pre-rendered sub-pixel fonts instead of rendering the >>> fonts via >>> FreeType. >>> (Much faster, not quite as nice in details). >>> Freetype fonts are available if needed, though. The pre-rendered >>> fonts >>> just replace >>> the 80ties=looking Squeak fonts and provide a good enough >>> selection for a >>> development image. >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>>> 2009/12/8 laurent laffont <[hidden email]>: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM >> Squeak-3.11.3.2135. >>>>> See: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 >>>>> Laurent >>>>> >>>>> 2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson <[hidden email]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files >>>>>> I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. >>>>>> Dev09.11.4 looks fine >>>>>> Maybe is a preference setting? >>>>>> Hernan >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>> project >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >> > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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I tried that but I didn't know it was not refreshing :-)
We found and reported this problem a few months ago with Juan Manuel Vuletich (the alpha channel error) BTW, on Mac, the monticello browser's buttons don't look good nether On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 3:42 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: > Why a preference? Its just a matter of selecting the font you like: > > System > Preferences > System fonts > > In the Font Browser you can click on "Update" and you *should* get all > your system fonts. The problem is, that the font browser does not > update. If you open it again, you see the fonts. > > I filed an issue for 1.0/1.1: > > http://code.google.com/p/pharo/issues/detail?id=1562 > > Adrian > > > On Dec 8, 2009, at 19:25 , Mariano Martinez Peck wrote: > >> It should be explained somewhere how to replace StrikeFonts for >> FreeType. >> Or even better, a preference for that maybe be cool. >> >> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Gary Chambers <[hidden email] >> >wrote: >> >>> Would be nice to expose the technique used in FreeType for >>> underline/strikeout... even if only stub where rendered by a >>> StrikeFont. >>> >>> Would help a lot for other canvas types (PDF, PostScript etc.)... For >>> instance, a P{DF canvas would draw the underline using graphics >>> primitives... >>> >>> Regards, Gary >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Marcus Denker" <[hidden email]> >>> To: <[hidden email]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 3:36 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Pharo-project] Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux >>> >>> >>>> >>>> On Dec 8, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Hernan Wilkinson wrote: >>>> >>>>> but why the previous verson of pharo worked fine? there must be >>>>> something different in this new image... >>>>> >>>> >>>> It uses pre-rendered sub-pixel fonts instead of rendering the >>>> fonts via >>>> FreeType. >>>> (Much faster, not quite as nice in details). >>>> Freetype fonts are available if needed, though. The pre-rendered >>>> fonts >>>> just replace >>>> the 80ties=looking Squeak fonts and provide a good enough >>>> selection for a >>>> development image. >>>> >>>> Marcus >>>> >>>> >>>>> 2009/12/8 laurent laffont <[hidden email]>: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I had the same issue with exupery vm. Works with VM >>> Squeak-3.11.3.2135. >>>>>> See: http://n2.nabble.com/New-pharo-images-td4125021.html#a4125467 >>>>>> Laurent >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/12/8 Hernan Wilkinson <[hidden email]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> the last version's fonts look really bad. See attached files >>>>>>> I have Ubuntu 9.10, 64 bits. >>>>>>> Dev09.11.4 looks fine >>>>>>> Maybe is a preference setting? >>>>>>> Hernan >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>>> [hidden email] >>>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo- >>>>>> project >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>>> [hidden email] >>>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pharo-project mailing list >>>> [hidden email] >>>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pharo-project mailing list >>> [hidden email] >>> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pharo-project mailing list >> [hidden email] >> http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > > > _______________________________________________ > Pharo-project mailing list > [hidden email] > http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project > _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
Re: Dev09.12.1 does not look nice on Linux
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In reply to this post by Adrian Lienhard
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Adrian Lienhard <[hidden email]> wrote: Why a preference? Its just a matter of selecting the font you like: Excellent :) I wasn't aware of this! really cool. I filed an issue for 1.0/1.1: _______________________________________________ Pharo-project mailing list [hidden email] http://lists.gforge.inria.fr/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pharo-project |
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