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Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?

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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

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Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?

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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

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In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.

Uko

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> Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

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Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser

Alexandre

On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.

Uko

On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?

Alexandre


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Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?

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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

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Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1)  it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.

Uko


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Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>

Alexandre

On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.

Uko

On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?

Uko
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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

abergel
okay.
Are you aware of the example:
ROMondrianExample new uml
?
Does this help?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

> Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1)  it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.
>
> Uko
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> On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
>
>> Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
>> <Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>
>>
>> Alexandre
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
>>
>>> In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.
>>>
>>> Uko
>>>
>>> On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>>> Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?
>>>>
>>>> Alexandre
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>>>> On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
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>>>>> Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?
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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

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a screenshot

On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

okay. 
Are you aware of the example:
ROMondrianExample new uml
?
Does this help?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1)  it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.

Uko


On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>

Alexandre

On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.

Uko

On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?

Uko
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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

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Hi Yuriy,

The MetaBrowser is not specific to FAMIX. It's just happens that by default it opens on the default Fame repository which happens to contain FAMIX. So, you can just open it on your repository.

For example, here it is opened on the FM3 itself:
MooseMetaBrowser new openOn: FMMetaRepository fm3

Then, from the top right menu of the Meta Browser you can spawn a simple UML class diagram of the repository (Please update to the latest RoassalPaintings version to have working properly).



Cheers,
Doru




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Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1)  it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.

Uko


On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>

Alexandre

On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.

Uko

On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?

Uko
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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

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No, I wasn’t aware of that. I’ll try to figure out something.

Thanks
Uko

On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:28, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

a screenshot
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.27.50 AM.png>

On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

okay. 
Are you aware of the example:
ROMondrianExample new uml
?
Does this help?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1)  it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.

Uko


On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>

Alexandre

On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.

Uko

On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?

Uko
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Re: Diagram of Moose metamodel

Tudor Girba-2
I am not sure I understand. Is what I described not suitable for you?

For example, this is the UML Diagram for FM3 (inheritance is horizontal):

Inline image 1

Cheers,
Doru



On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 3:47 PM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:
No, I wasn’t aware of that. I’ll try to figure out something.

Thanks
Uko

On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:28, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

a screenshot
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.27.50 AM.png>

On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

okay. 
Are you aware of the example:
ROMondrianExample new uml
?
Does this help?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 11:18 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Yes, I know about that. But I’m talking about pressing a button, printing image, hanging it on the wall and telling people: here is my model. Meta browser is good, but: 1)  it shows too much data. I don’t care about FAMIX, I need only my stuff. 2) For me it’s hard to use it. I have to look in the other window for the relations data, if I see connection I cannot easily understand it’s name, I can’t see all collections without clicking on the item. And of course it’s useless on the non-interactive data carrier.

Uko


On 14 Jan 2014, at 15:09, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Maybe this is not related, I do not know, but it looks like to me you want to use the Meta browser
<Screen Shot 2014-01-14 at 11.08.33 AM.png>

Alexandre

On Jan 14, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

In general - FAME models. They have annotations, so we can say which properties have which type. I think that this is somehow an important feature. I’ve developed a model to use with moose (SmalltalkHub model). Now I want to see a diagram showing hierarchy of my nodes and relations between them.

Uko

On 14 Jan 2014, at 12:51, Alexandre Bergel <[hidden email]> wrote:

Which kind of models exactly are you referring to?

Alexandre


On Jan 14, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Yuriy Tymchuk <[hidden email]> wrote:

Can we automatically generate a diagram (preferably something close to UML) of our metalled built from moose entities?

Uko
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